Supernatural weeping--any of you experience this?

Was wondering, has anyone ever experience.

Weeping that you cannot yourself cause it. What I mean is that, you will suddenly burst into tears or suddenly weep for no good reason.

I've experienced it many times after my conversion.

Sometimes, its when trying to say 'my obedience to God'--before I can even complete 1 sentence, tears would just pour out

Sometimes, when reading or watching certain people (it can be a real Christian or just somebody that wants to be healed through God). Its as if the spirit is telling me that God knows this person and is weeping for that person

Sometimes while just reading or doing normal Christian stuff

Etc etc

Most of the weeping is 'supernatural' in the sense that I cannot 'replicate' it or at the very minimum have to take some time to replicate it (by thinking of something very sad or watching a very sad movie or being very humble and contrite before God)--but for me, this 'supernatural weeping' just happen instantaneously. For example, a stinging in my nose suddenly and the tears would flow. Or the trembling/fluttering in the stomach or chest area when crying--which of course I try to replicate later on but fail (ie the trembling of the stomach/heart). Sometimes it seems so obvious that there are 2 spirits in me in the sense that the holy spirit is crying and my spirit is like an observer to it. Of course, there are times that the holy spirit 'involves my spirit' and I feel like I'm really crying due to my heart being touched.

Appreciate replies. Thanks

Reply to Learn

Yes, I have wept unexpectedly in communion with other Christians.

A little of what is taught in God’s Holy Word.

Psalms30
1. I will extol thee, O Lord; for thou hast lifted me up, and hast not made my foes to rejoice over me.
2. O Lord my God, I cried unto thee, and thou hast healed me.
3. O Lord, thou hast brought up my soul from the grave: thou hast kept me alive, that I should not go down to the pit.
4. Sing unto the Lord, O ye saints of his, and give thanks at the remembrance of his holiness.
5. For his anger endureth but a moment; in his favour is life: weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning.
6. And in my prosperity I said, I shall never be moved.
7. Lord, by thy favour thou hast made my mountain to stand strong: thou didst hide thy face, and I was troubled.
8. I cried to thee, O Lord; and unto the Lord I made supplication.
9. What profit is there in my blood, when I go down to the pit? Shall the dust praise thee? shall it declare thy truth?
10. Hear, O Lord, and have mercy upon me: Lord, be thou my helper.
11. Thou hast turned for me my mourning into dancing: thou hast put off my sackcloth, and girded me with gladness;
12. To the end that my glory may sing praise to thee, and not be silent. O Lord my God, I will give thanks unto thee for ever.

Are your mornings filled with gladness? Thank God that you are clean every wit and our Lord washed yesterdays mire from your feet with tears of forgiveness. Jesus opened the way and we pass through to The Mercy Seat in His name and in His body

Praise God every morning for the song in your heart that sings of the greatness of God and the love of Jesus.

If you awoke with eternal life and joy in your heart and a peace that is beyond our understanding, then you have a testimony of healing and hope that flows from The mercy Seat through a broken and contrite heart. [color=009900]Weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning.[/color]

Eddie

Eddie, thanks for your answer.

I managed to find a website on the 'gift of tears'. Although my tears are more varied (in the sense it can be silent tears or great sobs--with or without emotion, without a trigger causing the tears), it was good to read the website.

The interesting thing is that in the website, it also contained a page on tongues (where it said that 'a gift of tears is often given to those that are not given a gift of tongues')--well, I don't speak in tongues, but I do certainly weep.

Ok, does anybody here not speak in tongues but weep like myself? Appreciate replies.

http://www.helpforchristians.co.uk/articles/a28.asp

http://www.helpforchristians.co.uk/articles/a30.asp

One thought, does the Bible speak of the "gift" of tears? I don't believe it does and it's best that we don't try and put extra-biblical labels onto such things.

HomeFree89 wrote:
One thought, does the Bible speak of the "gift" of tears? I don't believe it does and it's best that we don't try and put extra-biblical labels onto such things.

Nope. The bible does not have it and that's why I finally decided to ask. It was nice to note though, that what I have is not as unusual as I thought based on that website. I do know that there are preachers like Tozer (who had tears at times when he prayed), Spurgeon and Leonard Ravenhill (where in some of Ravenhill's sermons, his voice almost broke as if he would almost cry) but the thing which I wanted to know was whether anyone had it on a more consistent basis without self-inducing the tears (through our own emotions). So far, looks like I'm the only one here that has it on various occasions. Hopefully there will be others besides myself.

Yes, I weep more then I speak in tongues.

Miccah wrote:
Yes, I weep more then I speak in tongues.

Miccah, is your weeping due to your own emotions or is it a supernatural affair (ie one that you could not have started it yourself). Thanks

What I'm interested in is one that you could not possibly start it yourself.

Hello Learn,

Something like what you said happens to me - usually when I am praying.

Sometimes it is emotional, like when I think of my Saviour on the way to the cross - that He endured all of that pain and suffering for me, so that I could live - and then when I experience the beauty of all that He is, I cry even more.

Sometimes the tears just start to fall, and I feel His pain - it is such a great sorrow, the depths of which is hard to express. These tears I can not stop.

Sometimes I just start weeping out of sheer gratitude - that He would love me after all that I have done and the foolish things that I continue to do and He is always so patient and so kind.

Oh, the blessedness of our precious Saviour.

Edit - And sometimes just because when I am reading His Word, or praying over my meal, He falls upon me so sweetly that my heart can barely take it.

I'm not endorsing this but do seem to have experienced emotions that were not my own during a time of prayer or ministry. When meditating or speaking upon some topic, powerful emotion has stirred up (tears, shaky voice, sorrow, joy, etc) and then vanished as soon as I moved on to something else. As if the Lord were revealing his burden through/to me - something He is very moved about but I may be unfeeling on the matter.

MisterCheez wrote:
I'm not endorsing this but do seem to have experienced emotions that were not my own during a time of prayer or ministry. When meditating or speaking upon some topic, powerful emotion has stirred up (tears, shaky voice, sorrow, joy, etc) and then vanished as soon as I moved on to something else. As if the Lord were revealing his burden through/to me - something He is very moved about but I may be unfeeling on the matter.

Thanks. I think you are the one that are closest to me on some of my occassions although I don't have the shaky voice.

To clarify, "shaky voice" meaning trembling from emotion. Just as you would experience when speaking while weeping.

I've often taught that there is incredible pain in the heart of God. Those who venture close to His heart know this well. When He allows a person to have a glimpse of what is in His heart for man, insufferable agony results, great trembling, with tears and deep groans suddenly gushing out with volcanic profuseness.

This experience is common to every man or woman who dares enter in beyond the vail and into the holy place where God awaits. I know that people cringle when you begin to talk about "levels" in God, but reality is reality, and there is a very special place in the Beloved where tears burst forth like blood and the heart breaks as God allows a believer to capture a glimpse of what He endures daily when He sees man.

Oh dear brethren, who is intrepid enough to venture into this fearful place? The place where your theology can be irretrievably ruined, your nominal Christianity smashed to a million bits, the very fiber of your being so throttled with pain and grief that never again can you triffle with the holy things of God, or make light of His Word.

This "supernatural" weeping, is actually a very natural weeping - it comes naturally when one goes beyond the outer courts and touches God in the secret place.

Brother Paul

Hey all, i too have experienced this in very few moments. Mostly in prayer. When it happens I think this is the ultimate in intercession or ministry unto God, and I often want so desperatly to continue long into the night or experience it again the next time i go to prayer. But, it doesn't happen very often and the more times i try to engineer it i actually quench this.
The first time was about six years ago at the altar during a worship service. I was not mindful of what the preacher was saying nor those around me. I was on my knees and hand and had just come back to the Lord after several years of apostasy. There was such heart wrenching tears and painful sobbing that I wondered in my heart what this was all about.
the last time was about two weeks ago and was praying, after saying one particular word weeping broke out and i was led to interceed for people.
All in all I look back on these times as the most sweetest time and have such an assurance that joy does come in the morning. "Blessed are you who weep now, for you shall laugh." Luke 6.21 (NASB)

Have you noticed this months sermon, at the top of the page. Excellent short sermon

PaulWest wrote:
I've often taught that there is incredible pain in the heart of God. Those who venture close to His heart know this well. When He allows a person to have a glimpse of what is in His heart for man, insufferable agony results, great trembling, with tears and deep groans suddenly gushing out with volcanic profuseness.

This experience is common to every man or woman who dares enter in beyond the vail and into the holy place where God awaits. I know that people cringle when you begin to talk about "levels" in God, but reality is reality, and there is a very special place in the Beloved where tears burst forth like blood and the heart breaks as God allows a believer to capture a glimpse of what He endures daily when He sees man.

Oh dear brethren, who is intrepid enough to venture into this fearful place? The place where your theology can be irretrievably ruined, your nominal Christianity smashed to a million bits, the very fiber of your being so throttled with pain and grief that never again can you triffle with the holy things of God, or make light of His Word.

This "supernatural" weeping, is actually a very natural weeping - it comes naturally when one goes beyond the outer courts and touches God in the secret place.

Brother Paul

Thank you PaulWest, this absolutely is the most well expressed, overwhelmingly accurate discription of these things I have ever read on this particular subject. It touched and spoke to my heart and spirit.

Please dear friends, remember, trying to "name" tears that come from the Spirit of God, and/or from communion with Him is not nearly as important as understanding that Christ is the focus- not necessarily the "tears".

Somehow I fear, lest our calloused hearts have NO tears for the plight of humanity around us, or the absolute grief within the body of Christ when someone abuses their authority and wreaks havoc on churches and lives.

How can we not weep with sobs and moans (beyond human emotion) when a "Demas" turns away from the Spirit of God to follow after the world? When mothers and fathers, who have heard, who have read, who have prayed and have been overwhelmed by sin and brought death into a family?

Even for those who are opponents of the faith:
Paul said, "I tell you even now [i][b]weeping[/i][/b], they are enemies of the cross...." I have a hard time believing that he wept just because he felt badly for them within his own human emotion.

How can I, as a daughter of the Living God, not mourn as when one has lost an only son, when I see how I have broken the heart of God? How can I not weep, when I, by the Spirit of God, sense that broken heart that cried out: "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?"- for humanities sake and they would rather frolic around without ever giving that one single thought?

How can I not be filled with a sorrow that belongs to God when grandmothers and mothers would take their children's/grandchildren's lives with harshness and oppression, violence and unconcern?

How long I have wondered, how iniquity would wax the hearts cold of those that should belong to God!

Oh dear brethren, who is intrepid enough to venture into this fearful place? The place where your theology can be irretrievably ruined, your nominal Christianity smashed to a million bits, the very fiber of your being so throttled with pain and grief that never again can you triffle with the holy things of God, or make light of His Word.

OH, that we all would venture into that place, dear brother!

learn wrote:

Miccah, is your weeping due to your own emotions or is it a supernatural affair (ie one that you could not have started it yourself). Thanks

What I'm interested in is one that you could not possibly start it yourself.

Brother, this I do not know for sure. Can and does flesh arise?? Yes. But there are times when the Lord brings me to my knees with weeping. There are times when something triggers weeping, and there are times with nothing triggers weeping. There are times that the presence of the Lord is overwhelming, and I weep and weep and weep.

To the natural world this would seem unstable, but the truth of the matter is I do not know how, being a Christian, you could NOT weep.

I am encountering this frequently, mostly when I witness or bring the word. [edit]Sometimes I am so overtaken by emotion while talking about Christ that takes me a coule of secound before I can commence my flow of words. These emotion occur in the very moment but I think they are from God and not just sentimentality. I cannot finish my sentence and it takes me sev It happens to me often in front of others, and I have asked God to take this away from me but he wouldn't.

Paul had a brilliant mind and used reason and logic in his writings but tears were not unfamiliar to him.[end edit]

This may not be a "gift" in the sense of the gifts of the gifts of the Spirit, but it is recorded many times in the NT.

Luke 7:38
and as she stood behind him at his feet weeping, she began to wet his feet with her tears. Then she wiped them with her hair, kissed them and poured perfume on them.

Luke 7:44
Then he turned toward the woman and said to Simon, "Do you see this woman? I came into your house. You did not give me any water for my feet, but she wet my feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair.

Acts 20:19
I served the Lord with great humility and with tears, although I was severely tested by the plots of the Jews.

Acts 20:31
So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears.

2 Corinthians 2:4
For I wrote you out of great distress and anguish of heart and with many tears, not to grieve you but to let you know the depth of my love for you.

Philippians 3:18
For, as I have often told you before and now say again even with tears, many live as enemies of the cross of Christ.

2 Timothy 1:4
Recalling your tears, I long to see you, so that I may be filled with joy.

Hebrews 5:7
During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.

narrowpath

Miccah wrote:

There are times when something triggers weeping, and there are times with nothing triggers weeping.

I should clarify a little here. This sentence should have read.... "There are times when emotion triggers weeping, and there are times when no emotion triggers weeping".

Here is an example. A few days ago I was reading a bio of a young 3 year old that is going through cancer. This was the first time I had heard of this young boy. The family found out 2 months ago. He was living a normal life before this. All of a sudden the doctors found he has cancer all throuoghout his stomach, around the spinal column and other internal organs. He is not expected to survive.

Halfway through reading this article, I broke. I felt a severe pain in the spirit, and wept mightily for this boy and his family. It brought me to my knees. I felt the pain and heartache for him, his sister and family. I was praying that the Lord would hear my cries for mercy and healing. I felt a severe burden to contend in prayer for this boy and his family.

Was this of the flesh, or of the spirit? I have no scripture to back up my experience except that we are called to weep with those who weep, and model ourselves after our Lord...

[u][b]John 11:32-36 (NKJV)[/b][/u]

Then, when Mary came where Jesus was, and saw Him, she fell down at His feet, saying to Him, “Lord, if You had been here, my brother would not have died.” Therefore, when Jesus saw her weeping, and the Jews who came with her weeping, He groaned in the spirit and was troubled. And He said, “Where have you laid him?” They said to Him, “Lord, come and see.” [b]Jesus wept. Then the Jews said, “See how He loved him!”[/b]

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Was this of the flesh, or of the spirit?

If you concluded it was of your 'flesh' would it lessen the Christ-like compassion and sorrow you have for this little boy and his family? You have spent time with Jesus after-all. It makes sense that even on an emotional and cognitive level you are going to be more like Him, and less like your former self.

Blessings,

MC

Compton wrote:

You have spent time with Jesus after-all.

Yes brother. May He be glorified, and I become ashes.