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Strange thoughts upon hearing the Featured Sermon: Can we have Revival?

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JoanM Sep 28, 2008

I remember hearing somewhere that in the not too distant past Toronto, the city, was called “Toronto the Good” as a consequence of God moving through there. A few months ago I read the Autobiography of Oswald J. Smith, so it was good to hear his voice and this message “Can we have revival?”

There is one thing in this message that I cannot shake thoughts of: his report that [b]all over the city there were found small pieces of paper with the words GET RIGHT WITH GOD printed on both sides[/b]. Now I freely share the gospel but have never, in the standard manner, passed out tracks. Do you think they would arrest a quiet, little old lady, dressed in her Sunday best, that left small pieces of paper (?littering?) everywhere she went (footprints). I find that 45 “GET RIGHT WITH GOD” fit on standard sheet of paper (3 col/15 rows). This morning I awoke with the thoughts, “Coming soon.” and “Coming to a theater near you.” and other such things for the other side. Is it possible that a theater in Atlanta will be closed to movies but given over for preaching?

How I wish I lived in Atlanta! People need to be prepared. There is so much happening there very soon (remember the street evangelism preceding the conference?). I just may send a shoebox full of these to the Lilburn church.

And why not Scotland? With the way God is leading me to pray for Scotland, “Coming soon to a pub near you,” seems more fitting.

OK, I can calm down but the thoughts of this still fill me with Joy. Maybe street preachers are too.


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sojourner7 Sep 28, 2008

Joan, can you remember the phrase "Perhaps Today"
and the lapel pins when people felt challenged
to live with passion and purpose for the LORD
Jesus could return today ??

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JoanM Sep 28, 2008

I was probably in a weed-filled desert at that time.

But I certainly know why you thought of that “[u]Perhaps Today[/u].” I thought the same thing when “[u]Coming soon[/u]” occurred to me. And then there is the sense of urgency. Periodically after I pray (including revival and the conferences) and I am quiet and still before Him, I hear echoes of His Word that He brought to my mind to pray. Then it occurs to me I may well be asking for the Lord’s return. It’s like sometimes I can’t tell the difference. You would have to be a dead man to not recognize the bold acceleration of waves of wickedness. This is the first year I have been able to understand how even the elect could be deceived.

The Autobiography was “The Story of my Life.” rescued from the back room of an estate sale. It is woven from dairy entries. The early years are wonderfully encouraging to anyone bursting to share Christ and struggling to find God’s will in his or her life (deep in the woods preaching to Indians and “gangs of low-down men,” the Turtle Creek revival, shots fired as meetings concluded, etc). And this early twenty-year-old writes: “Sick and discouraged. My life seems so useless, so worthless. My dreams of service have never yet come true. Will I ever find God’s place for me? I am doing so little, so little.”

How we need to pray. There is a great relationship between prayer and faith. Will He find faith?


sermonindex Sep 28, 2008

GET RIGHT WITH GOD.

It will make sense clearly to every single person who reads it. I think it is a effective statement for both sides of a sheet of paper and might go ahead and do this in my area here in regina. We need to realize heaven and hell are in the mix.

much recommended:

The Damnation of Hell - Part 1
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=15351

The Damnation of Hell - Part 2
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=15352

The Damnation of Hell - Part 1 (voice only)
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=15349

The Damnation of Hell - Part 2 (voice only)
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=15350

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sojourner7 Sep 28, 2008

Yes, there is an urgency in the Heart and Voice
of God like never before. Soon the days of His
gracious invitation to come to the cross for
salvation will end and the time for judgment
and His kingdom will come. We need to watch,
wait, and pray we be found ready in that Day
of the LORD!!

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JoanM Sep 29, 2008

I must say after church in the "ends of paper" stack (scrap that gets recycled or sometimes cut up for notes) there were individual sheets of slightly stiff multi-colored paper AND three envelops, slightly damaged. I just could not resist using the copy machine. [b]They look beautiful!!! The words: so beautiful[/b]. I cannot resist this Joy. Do people that pass out tracks always feel this Joy? They should talk about it. I’ve been to churches where they have Bible verses posted on the inside of bathroom doors.

If someone has the address for a supporting church in Greenock it would help (pm). Do they even do street evangelism in Scotland? Sigh. I am so ignorant. I could send a copy of the first post to explain the odd package, or not.

Listening to your recommendation Greg, though my heart already breaks.

{Edit: SURELY THERE ARE SONS STILL LEFT IN SCOTLAND)

sermonindex Sep 29, 2008

Hi Joan

there are sons still left in Scotland :) In the town of Greenock they have , in the town center, what is called a "healing room." Anyone can come in and get prayer. Also, they have started a new thing whereby "street pastors," go out at night and assist in disputes and so on.(often help the police) www.streetpastors.org.uk Apparently the crime is down where they have street Pastors. They are ideetified by armbands I believe......Frank

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murrcolr Sep 29, 2008

Get Right with God.

Well I can't speak for anyone else but I am from Scotland and I know God.

Know as I was contemplating what to post on here. I thought about the church and christianity and the need to get right with God. For example take these street pastors whats the difference between them and the salvation army. Appolus don't be offended here just using them as an example as you mentioned them on this post.

As the Salvation Army grew rapidly in the late 1800s, it generated opposition in England. Opponents, grouped under the name of the Skeleton Army, disrupted Salvation Army meetings and gatherings, the usual tactics being the throwing of rocks, rats, and tar, and physical assaults on members of The Salvation Army. Much of this was led by publicans who were losing business due to the Army's opposition to alcohol and targeting of the frequenters of saloons and public houses.

Taken from Wikipedia

Know we see these so called street pastor where the opposition to them. There is none because they are not a threat to the Kingdom of Darkness they are not preaching the gospel of the Kingdom.

There will spring up in the Christian Church and round about it, a body of faithless men who profess to have faith—ungodly men who will unite with the saints—men having the form of
godliness but denying the power.

C. H. SPURGEON JUNE 2, 1889,

The church is powerless right know why because it's not Holy. That's the difference between the Salvation army of old and the street pastors of today. We come up with our plans and hope God blesses them. What about giving up all our plans and surrendering to God and his will.

We must get right with God........

Don't worry about Scotland Joan when God moves in my Nation and to the rest of the World it will be different but we must get right with God.

Coming soon to a pub near you

Amen Joan Amen

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JoanM Sep 29, 2008

Great site. It was good to get to know the sons in Scotland more. “Sons in Scotland” is a personal phrase to me, something out of prayer. No disrespect to daughters. But don't you kinda Love them? I mean really? Maybe it is because we are praying for them. They are strange though.

Yes, I am thinking God could definitely saturate that "healing room" in Revival (they pray) and maybe I could see it. Thank you for showing me this. I pray for the Sons in Scotland. It’s like a question that hurts, heart to heart. “Are there no more sons in Scotland?” There must be. There just must. If I could, I would put that on every billboard over there and I don’t even know what it would mean to them. Sigh. Maybe it is to wake up the heart of God in them. Calming down now.

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PaulWest Sep 29, 2008

Well I can't speak for anyone else but I am from Scotland and I know God.

Let someone else say this, brother. Since in your next breath you injudiciously criticize other men without knowing first their hearts and motives, you [i]do[/i] manage to speak for others:
these so called street pastor

This is not becoming, and actually goes to belie your own self-assessment.

That's the difference between the Salvation army of old and the street pastors of today. We come up with our plans and hope God blesses them.

This is quite the unfair generalization. You speak as though all street preachers today fall into this category, which isn't true. Are there not genuine preachers in Scotland to herald the gospel on the streets?

sermonindex Sep 29, 2008

Hi Robert, my fellow Scotsman but more importantly, my brother in Christ. I appreciate your passion and I am sympathetic to much of what you wrote. I was replying to a question from sister Joan about what was going on in Scotland. I am as aware as anyone as the state of Christianity in Scotland. And even the churches that are "alive," may have went down a wrong path, but they are still our brothers and the way to bring them back online is to hammer home the message of Jesus, Calvary, and Him crucified. If you just read my "An Evil and Adulterous generation," you will know that I do not dwell in the camp of those who run after miracles or those who will not share the Gospel.Yet consider this brother, if the Lord rebukes Jonah for his attitude towards the Ninevites, and they an ungodly city, should not out attitude to those erring brothers be one of lovingly restoring them. Now this can be done by powerfully sharing the truth, but it must be done in love.

The Christians of Greenock, "no mean city," as you probably know, are about to hear, through the conference that is coming in Novemeber, the solid truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The speakers that are coming will be talking about repentance, Calvary, death to self and so on. Many of the hearers will be people who participate in the "healing," rooms. And some are participating in the street pastors organization. Have faith brother, God will speak. Can I just add, that anyone, despite their motives, who goes out after dark in Greenock is to be commended. I love you brother and I am with you in your desire to see genuine , Biblical revival sweep through our nations, I further agree that these movements that we speak of are not that. Yet, it is coming. And when my passionate Scottish brothers and sisters get a hold of the mighty truths of Calvary, when their eyes are once again turned to our Lord Jesus and His shed blood, when they decide to pick up their cross and follow Him all the way to Calvary and beyond, there will be no stopping them. And the blood that will run in the streets of Scotland will not be the blood shed by violence, but will be the Blood of Jesus Christ bringing healing to every place that it touches...........brother Frank

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JoanM Sep 29, 2008

Murrcolr: I have paid attention to the ways of God in His Word and in lives. Here is one thing I have seen. It encourages me. God puts people in specific places. Those street preaches, who may not know God, may be asleep or intimidated, when God comes in Revival, when they meet Him, they will be where? In perfect places. I am not saying what God will do. I do not know. But it’s a bit like looking at the roads, already built, at the time of Christ. Revival in the Church will touch them because they are there in the Church. I am really just praying. I love you brother. We could meet on the streets in Revival.

I know in America what it means to call what a Christian does a “ministry of presence.” Like with all of us, there is Truth and the hidden things of the heart. But no one escapes in revival. Duncan Campbell did not.

About the alcohol: America is asleep in new cars, TV and cell phones (stuff), groggy with fast food. I do think Scotland is different (still the same in the root). In revival it will be “Coming soon to a pub near you.”

It must be very hard, frustrating, anger tempting to have a great heart for God and live in Scotland. We know a bit that here in America. I met hating the enemy of God during Lakeland when I saw a man from Scotland come to take that delusion back. For a second it was like I wanted a gun. Or a massive wall of fire separaing Lakeland from Scotland, and England too. But it was love for the little ones that lead in prayer. I know we all pray differently as he leads. Oh that we may give Glory to God on the streets where you live.

WITH CONFIDENCE IN GOD

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JoanM Sep 29, 2008

Glory Halleluiah! [i]... there will be no stopping them. And the blood that will run in the streets of Scotland will not be the blood shed by violence, but will be the Blood of Jesus Christ bringing healing to every place that it touches...[/i]

And Life....Yes and Amen. Do as thou hast said, Father (Psm 119:126)

PS. [u]Both you Sons of Scotland seem to Know there will be no stopping[/u]...I don't hear this in America. This must be in the heart of God over there.

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murrcolr Oct 1, 2008

I would quote to you the saintly Finney: “Away with your milk and water
preaching of the love of Christ that has no holiness or moral discrimination in it, away with the preaching of Christ not crucified for sin.” On this very truth a highlander minister stated once: “Bring me a God of all mercy but no just, bring me a God of all love but not righteous, and I will have no scruples in calling Him an idiot of your imagination.” Alas, the American Church has embraced such a “idiot” conception of God. Is that hard to hear? It will sound much harder to hear the words from the
judgement bar of God: “depart from me, I never knew you.” We are afraid to disturb people these days, we are afraid to preach against sin, we sit in church and are not moved.

Taken from the Sermon Index news letter Why the church is failing in America

You can use these statement above for churches worldwide.

These street pastors are not preaching the Gospel they work closely with the authorites and those same authorites will limit what they can and cannot do. Look at there web site do you see any testimonies of people getting convicted of sin.

Please don't think they are preaching they are not. They are not street preachers. The authorties would not allow them to do it.

Don't be so stupid to stand up for some wish, washy, watered down thing that would like to call itself the gospel.

The church is not asleep, the church is not at ease, the church is not sick. THE CHURCH IS DEAD can't you hear Gods Voice. THE CHURCH IS DEAD.

How can that be you may ask? The Church is dead because of sin, where not Holy, we have a form of Holiness but we no have power because of sin. We must get victory in our lives over sin that was why Jesus died on the cross to deal with Sin and death that had enter into this world. We are born sinners and we must accpet the full benefits of what Jesus did on the cross and become Holy and we must pay the price whatever that may be so we can become pure as Men and Women can be or we will keep on living defeated lives calling it Christianity.

But in the middle of this mess we are in Gods got a plan, GOD WILL HAVE A PEOPLE who will stand and preach the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ to a lost and dying generation.

A People of Victory prepared for Christ return.
They'll be victorious over the beast, they'll be victourious over the image, they'll be victorious over the number.

There will be no stopping them many will die many will be persucted and punished but they will be Victorious.

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