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sermonindex Sep 29, 2008

Dear Saints,

Some of you know that my wife and I have been married for a little over a year. During that time we have prayed for and have been trying to have a baby. Since I met my wife, she has always had stomach problems, especially during her menstruation. Having never seen a gynecologist, she had always been reluctant to go, even by my encouragements. Last week, she finally agreed to go for a check-up.

Unfortunately (I'm reluctant to write that word, because I know God has everything under control),they found several cysts on her right ovary, but more troublesome was the large one on her left ovary. The doctor took some blood work and some other tests and asked us to come back within a month; after her next cycle. Since the visit, I have searched the Internet and have asked my mom about this and it seems to be 'no big deal' and 'quite common'.

Understanding that to be the case, I felt more at ease, but then today the doctor phoned back to say that my wife needs a shot (needle), to help protect any potential pregnancy which we may have, for she is lacking something in her body. Apparently (my info is just second hand information from a quick telephone conversation, translated into English from Korean), we will have to use contraceptives for the next three to five months, because there is a high likelihood that pregnancy within this period would result in a handicapped (i am not sure of the proper word) child.

As I am still in the dark about most of this, I would just appreciate some Saintly prayers. Maybe some or most of you, especially 'moms and dads' have experience in this area. For the rest of you...some good old prayer would be nice.

Blessings,
Brian and Mira... hense BrianMira

p.s. There is a definate lesson to be learned...since I thought she just had bad PMS...men take note. :-( :-) :-(

L

learn Sep 29, 2008

Brian, is your wife suffering from endometriosis? If so, I'm going to provide some links. The pain from endo can be moderate to debilitating (eg; pain almost every day and the pain can be very bad). Please do not take it lightly although endo is not that uncommon. There's no known cure for it.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/EndoDocs/message/5430

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/erc/

Birth control pills and shots such as lupron have bad side effects such as loss of bone etc. Some never seem to recover from the side effects while some only have minimal side effects. Some do surgeries while some prefer natural treatment such as eating healthy foods instead of taking birth control and things such as lupron.

Giving birth actually cause endometriosis to be in remission for a while though it does not cure it.

Please really read. Those sites which I've provided are good. If planning on surgeries, please also read what type of surgeries to go for.

Praying

P

PaulWest Sep 29, 2008

I'm very sorry to hear about all this, Brian. I'll be keeping you and your wife in my prayers. My wife is pregnant right now, and she's going through an extremely hard pregnancy. She's been out for work for over two months, and had to have gall bladder surgery a few weeks ago. She's still sore. They also found e. coli in her urinary bladder and she's lost over 30 pounds since late July. But this post isn't about me or Marissa or any of our problems.

Brother, the Lord will see us through no matter what happens, just like the Lord will see you and your precious wife though - ~~[i]~~no matter what happens.[/i] In the face of barreness and complications the strength of our Lord shines forth like the sun. There's something about barreness and difficult pregnacies (or not being able to conceive) that God uses to show His strength; whether it be with Abraham and barren Sarah, Jacob and barren Rachel, Jabez's painful birth, Hannah's barreness (the mother of Samuel), Manoah's barren wife (the mother of Samson), Elisha and the barren Shunammite, Elizabeth's barreness (John the Baptist's mother), and of course, the most miraculous birth of all which is our Lord coming forth from a virgin womb.

So, you see, we're in good company...and even better Hands.

:-)

Brother Paul

sermonindex Sep 29, 2008

Praying for your wives Paul and Brian. I was very sick with all five of my pregnancies, it was alot of time of resting and trusting. It was so bad I wanted to drive off a bridge and even thought about it as I was driving myself to the hospital. I know I wouldn't have done it but I was not in my right mind having gone months without nourishment or any rest. God knows though how much you can endure and will not suffer you to be tempted above what you can bear.(1 Cor. 10:13)

P

PaulWest Sep 29, 2008

I was very sick with all five of my pregnancies, it was alot of time of resting and trusting.

All five were like this? Yes, I remember you telling me. Rebecca, you're a strong, strong woman. My dear wife is nearly traumatized as it is, and has vowed this child will be our first and last (God has an interesting way of making us eat our words :). Seriously, I wouldn't want to see her go through something like this again. She had surgery three weeks ago and is still very sick - taking out the defunct gall bladder was supposed to ameliorate the hyperemesis, not intensify it - and she is still vomitting almost incessantly. She's vomitted so much that her esophagus is burnt by all the hydrochloric acid coming up, and her throat bleeds.

I can't imagine going through something like ths 5 times. My wife calls it the "curse of Eve", and through it all she accepts God's judgment...but this doesn't stop the physical misery. Incidentally, the baby is doing very well; we took an ultrasound a week after the surgery and the baby is healthy and dancing around - and even smiling (at 15 weeks).

God is in total control, and God is in control of Brian and his wife too.

T

Theophila Sep 29, 2008

To Brian,
If your wife doesn't like doctors/medicine, what i'm about to say mayn't make much difference but using oral contraceptives especially for a short period as her doc is a good strategy. The Lord does use doctors to help us. The side effects of OCPs are usually seen depending on dosage and long time use.
Since she's in such discomfort, I wouldn't ignore it as usual pain relievers mayn't help her.
Bottom line: please explore the docs recommendation.

To PaulWest:
Has her OB suggested 'Ondansetron'? It's a powerful medication used for folks with very bad vomiting. Your wife's hyperemesis may respond to it.

Neither of you can really understand how your wives feel but the One who knows is more than able to give you peace.

SHALOM.

C

consecrateme Sep 29, 2008

Brian,

Blessings. My sister and i have gone through the same thing. She had surgery for hers to be removed about 2 yrs ago. She has never been married and she had to take contraceptives to help the cyst not to come back. She went to the doctor and everything seems to be going well. SHe still has some pain but not as extreme as she used to have it. I had surgery about a month ago and the doctor also gave me the pills. I never had such extreme pain and that is the reason why i never even noticed anything wrong with me.

I know this can be very "scary" but days before the surgery the Lord gave me this verse one day sitting at church. Mark 5:34 He said to her, "Daughter, your faith has healed you. Go in peace and be freed from your suffering."

I had such peace the Lord gave me. May the Lord guide and take control over this situation. Praying for you and your wife.

L

learn Sep 29, 2008

Brian, I suggest you really check out the sites that I've given to you.

There are doctors specialising in endometriosis only and they will be way better to know what type of surgery etc to do. For example, if surgery is required, it should be cutting away the endo instead of ablation technique which will not get the deeper part of the endo. Gynaecologists may not know this for example.
Just an example.

Also, the site will also tell those that have positive and negative effects on things such as BCP, lupron etc.

sermonindex Sep 29, 2008

PaulWest wrote:
All five were like this? Yes, I remember you telling me.

Yea, I like that quote in "Rocky" even though I don't like the movie anymore:

"I didn't hear any bell yet!" :-D

That is a good quote! :-) But I wasn't saying that when I was sick.

and she is still vomitting almost incessantly. She's vomitted so much that her esophagus is burnt by all the hydrochloric acid coming up, and her throat bleeds.

I had the same symptoms she has. I have heard of women breaking ribs throwing up. That's the thing is you are throwing up with an empty stomach so it's just the acid in your stomach. I think I damaged my sternum. I was sick for the first seven months of all five pregnancies but they all turned out healthy thank God. :-)

sermonindex Sep 30, 2008

Please keep Brian and Paul's wives in prayer. Their wives are going through very rough pregnancies and I'm sure they could use some prayer too.

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~~[url=http://litalee.com/shopexd.asp?ccode=Estrogen+-+Progesterone+And+Female+Problems]~~Estrogen, Progesterone and Female Problems[/url]

~~[url=http://litalee.com/shopexd.asp?ccode=Estrogen+Toxic+Side+Effects]~~Estrogen, Toxic side effects[/url]

It is very possible that both of your wives' problems could stem from too much Estrogen and they would really benefit from progesterone. It might be helpful to look into some natural remedies that might be more effective in healing than the traditional medical route. I'm certainly not very knowledgeable on this topic, but I do know that there is hope for these problems to be overcome and many women have been helped by taking a progesterone cream or progesterone vitamin E oil (the best stuff I've heard of is Progest E complex oil).

I'll be praying for both ladies to find healing and relief from their sufferings.

~Joy

sermonindex Sep 30, 2008

Vitamin B6 is helpful too but the problem is if your sick you can't hold anything down. I hate how they call it "morning sickness". It's not just in the morning for alot of women. For some it last all day into the night. It really wears you out big time, especially when your sick like that for months. I got to where the room was spinning and the walls felt like they were closing in on me. Then my breathing got really shallow and slow by about the seventh month out of pure exhaustion. Thank God I made it though. He knows how much we can bear. God is very merciful.

I wish I had not complained so much while I was going through that. It probably would have wrought a much greater work in me spiritually.

My advice is forget that saltine/ginger ale advice, unless it works for her because it didn't me and just eat whatever you desire that is healthy. For me I mostly ate cereal and fruit.

P

PaulWest Sep 30, 2008

Marissa tried vitamin B6 - and vomitted the capsules up. She tried ginger and it made her even more sick. Hyperemesis is not really the same as morning sickness; it's classified as a disease which can be diagnosed by intense weight-loss and extreme vomitting and dehydration in women. This, in turn, leads to severe vitamin deficiency and subsequent hospitalization. My wife has already been hospitalized twice in the past two months, and was on TPN for about a week and a half before her laproscopic cholestectomy.

~~[url=http://www.rarediseases.org/search/rdbdetail_abstract.html?disname=Hyperemesis+Gravidarum+]~~Hyperemesis Gravidarum[/url]

Before her surgery, nothing worked; no amount of saltines, water, gingerale, fruit, nothing. If she even saw a TV commercial on food she would begin dry-heaving bile and blood. I had to eat all my meals away from home...but the worst of it all was I couldn't brew my coffee in the mornings.

At that point, I seriously didn't know who was worse off - me or her :).

C

ccchhhrrriiisss Sep 30, 2008

Praying.

sermonindex Sep 30, 2008

PaulWest wrote:
Marissa tried vitamin B6 - and vomitted the capsules up. She tried ginger and it made her even more sick. Hyperemesis is not really the same as morning sickness; it's classified as a disease which can be diagnosed by intense weight-loss and extreme vomitting and dehydration in women. This, in turn, leads to severe vitamin deficiency and subsequent hospitalization. My wife has already been hospitalized twice in the past two months, and was on TPN for about a week and a half before her laproscopic cholestectomy.
~~[url=http://www.rarediseases.org/search/rdbdetail_abstract.html?disname=Hyperemesis+Gravidarum+]~~Hyperemesis Gravidarum[/url]
Before her surgery, nothing worked; no amount of saltines, water, gingerale, fruit, nothing. If she even saw a TV commercial on food she would begin dry-heaving bile and blood. I had to eat all my meals away from home...but the worst of it all was I couldn't brew my coffee in the mornings.
At that point, I seriously didn't know who was worse off - me or her :).

I know brother Paul, it's bad stuff. My husband is the same way when it comes to his coffee.:-) I wish I knew what causes it but I think it is the curse of Eve. Her symptoms sound just like what I had. I didn't get sick though if I saw something on TV but I did when my husband didn't know what to buy grocery shopping and bought a weeks worth of speghetti--and it was the spicy stuff--PREGO. I hate PREGO! But I always did the cooking and shopping and now he had to. I felt really bad about it. Than one night someone cooked fish---in the house!:-)

P

PaulWest Sep 30, 2008

Than one night someone cooked fish---in the house

Oh man, if I cooked fish I think I would become our next client at the funeral home. Funny you speak of spaghetti - it must be a guy thing because I went out and bought a several pounds of pasta and spicy marinara sauce (my favorite), thinking I could boil noodles quick and easy after work...but Marissa just about had an aneurysm with my first bowl. Turns out the smell of noodles boiling in water wafted into our bedroom - beneath the closed door, mind you - and caused her to begin vomitting. So now I have a half a ton of pasta and sauce in the pantry and I can't eat any of it. All I can do is look at it and dream. I thought I had everything covered, turning on the stove vent and all. Pregnant women have noses like bloodhounds on steroids...and I found this out the hard way.

sermonindex Sep 30, 2008

PaulWest wrote:
Than one night someone cooked fish---in the house

Oh man, if I cooked fish I think I would become our next client at the funeral home. Funny you speak of spaghetti - it must be a guy thing because I went out and bought a several pounds of pasta and spicy marinara sauce (my favorite), thinking I could boil noodles quick and easy after work...but Marissa just about had an aneurysm with my first bowl. Turns out the smell of noodles boiling in water wafted into our bedroom - beneath the closed door, mind you - and caused her to begin vomitting. So now I have a half a ton of pasta and sauce in the pantry and I can't eat any of it. All I can do is look at it and dream. I thought I had everything covered, turning on the stove vent and all. Pregnant women have noses like bloodhounds on steroids...and I found this out the hard way.

You could try cooking on the grill. :-) Your right about our keen sense of smell. I would get sick over the smell of the paper trees down the road.lol!

P

PaulWest Sep 30, 2008

Yes, I've tried the grill too (we live in Texas, you know - the barbeque capitol of the world), but the problem here is that when I come inside the whole place smells like smoke (or so she says). Believe me, I've tried it all. The only recourse I have is to eat out. But she's gotten better since then, praise God, and is now starting to eat certain fruit like strawberries and pickles (yes, cucumbers are considered fruit, botanically), and she actually just called 15 minutes ago wanting me to bring her home some peanuts, potato chips and apple juice. Now I'm getting scared.

:-o

sermonindex Sep 30, 2008

PaulWest wrote:
But she's gotten better since then, praise God, and is now starting to eat certain fruit like strawberries and pickles (yes, cucumbers are considered fruit, botanically), and she actually just called 15 minutes ago wanting me to bring her home some peanuts, potato chips and apple juice. Now I'm getting scared.
:-o

Well that is a definite improvement, praise God! I have been so burdened for you both all day having been there and done that ourselves. I know exactly what she is going through if that is any comfort to her. It's very difficult when women cannot take care of thier families they way they need to be cared for and do the basic things you need to do. It makes you feel like such a failure. I'm sure she'll fight her way through this with God's help very soon. She seems like such a strong woman. :-)

It sounds like your doing all the right things. We live in Florida so we do alot of grilling too.

T

thomasm Oct 1, 2008

Praying.

When my wife was having our first child, I was concerned, Jesus gave me the verse 1 Tim 2-15....
But women will be kept safe through child-birth...
I didn't understand , so He showed me the first curse in Gen.3-16.. I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing;....
Then He showed me that Jesus became a curse for us. So the curse is reversed.

I just humbly acepted His word, both of our children have birthed quickly, and with less pain,
the pregnacies were without problem, take Him at His word, if your sick trust the sripes of Jesus, if pregnant believe the curse is gone, because Jesus became a curse for us , at the cross.

Love in Christ tom