humorous note

I saw this today and maybe someone will find it humorous.

PLease note this is NOT ment to offend or establish doctrine......sinmply humorous;

Those who say, "It's all ordained and so why fight it," remind me of the Presbyterian preacher back in pioneer days who was asked by a parishoner:
"If you believe things are foreordained and predestiaed, and you believe that when your time has come, there is nothing you can do about it, why do you carry a gun with you when you go to church on Sunday?"

"Well," he said, "It's like this: I carry a gun because I might meet an Indian whos time has come.

David

thanks krispy,I needed that!

David

I once asked God seriously in prayer about humor. I was flooded with cartoons and really laughed a lot. They all had some redeeming truth in them. I just had to draw them out but could never do a computer thing to post them.

One was a picture of the whole world, continents identifiable. There were streak lines with tiny stick figures, arms raised, at the end of the lines zooming off the earth. Others were on the earth.

The caption: Pastor Dragfoot wondered if had waited just a little too long to have prayer and repentance meetings.

Can you see it? :-) :lol: :-P

(I thought of sending it to every church in the phone directory)

oops,

sorry, I may sound like a legalistic spoil sport, but imagine this: Tell this joke in an Indian reservation church, I am sure you make some friends! Tell this joke in mixed congregation from the pulpit about another people present in the fellowship. Image half of them laugh and the others stand up and leave. This is only funny when it is not at your expense.

This IS sadly American history, and it still happens everywhere. Parishoners would sing Amen and Hallelujah on Sunday and then go shooting their fellow brothers.

Should a Christian tell this joke about Moslems or a Moslem about Christians?

narrowpath

I find this 'joke' troublesome. I read this yesterday and the longer time passes, the more I dislike it.

I will say in a minute why I dislike it but first off let me assure you I love jokes, laughter. All who know me in the flesh know that. In fact I got a funny political email today that I sent to Krispy thinking it may be too partisan for SI.

What I do not like about this joke: I adhere to the doctrine of non-resistance in living. (If you wonder what I mean by this you can check out Pastorfrins thread on "Let's Talk About Peace".) To laugh at this joke of someone being shot and killed violates this principle. To me it is not a whole different from some other jokes that mock important moral/theological values.

(At least y'all should be glad Krispy did not take offense - his racial heritage includes American Indian!)

My opinion,
ginnyrose

John 11:11-16 (KJV) 11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.
12 Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well.
13 Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep.
14 Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.
15 And I am glad for your sakes that I was not there, to the intent ye may believe; nevertheless let us go unto him.
16 Then said Thomas, which is called Didymus, unto his fellowdisciples, Let us also go, that we may die with him.

In these days of testing and trial, we need to remember that "the joy of the Lord is our strength." Somtimes we can take ourselves too seriously, and we need to know that "a merry heart does good like a medicine."

David Wilkerson tells a story that I find to be quite humorous. David Wilkerson is probably one of the most sober and serious minded Christian leaders that I know of in the Body of Christ. He doesn't put up with a lot of foolishness and nonsense.

One day Brother Wilkerson was walking in Times Square and he was carrying a very heavy burden, and apparently this could be seen by all those that he came into contact with. Brother Wilkerson walked by a crack addict, and the man saw the sad expression on the man of God's face. This crack addict attempted to try to cheer up David Wilkerson. He said something like: "Come on man, cheer up, its not that bad." The Lord spoke to David Wilkerson through this crack addict.

No matter how bad things get in this world we should remember the words of Jesus: "These things I have spoken unto you that in me ye might have peace. In the world you shall have tribulation, but be of good cheer,I have overcome the world." (John 16:33).

Mike

Mike

as someone who's ancestry includes a LARGE dose of Cherokee Indian... and belongs to the tribe because of my bloodline... and has many relatives who still live on the "reservation" in Cherokee, NC... I found the joke quite funny

This reminds me of our daughter's sister-in-law whose mother was Polish - yes, she is an immigrant to the USA from Poland. She loved Pollack jokes, collected them, in fact. She knew more then anyone else which makes the joke spoken from her funnier then ever.

I have to tell y'all this one: when I was in Bible School in 1966 or 1967, one of our instructors, Bro. Henry - an ordain pastor, told us this one in the "Person and Work of the Holy Spirit" class (I think).

"If there were a plane load of _______ pastors and there would be mid-air collision, they would have committees selected on who would care for the wounded and the dead before they ever hit the ground!"

I have shared this with our pastors and for some reason they did not think it was funny at all. The humor of it falls flat. We as a class roared with laughter!

ginnyrose

Well, I think it depends who is around. I work in a multi-cultural environment and belong to a minority within our mostly African and Asian church.

I have some Polish, Indian or British friends that I can tell jokes and we laugh together. I know I am not offending them.

I remember I while ago, I was offended by a church leader who met me a the entrance saying. Oh, no _____s please! At that time I could not take it. I and my wife were very offended at that time and he did not apologize to us; he only said that he did not mean it that way. It does not matter what the joke teller things, it matters what the other person thinks about and ultimately what God thinks about. So if you can laugh wholeheartedly about American Indian jokes, that may be good for you, but not for everyone.

Later the Lord showed me that I should die to what I was offended about anyway because I was holding on to my dignity. Nevertheless the leader should better not have said that to cause someone to stumble. Well, I will rather miss a joke than to offend someone. The Holy Spirit many times convicted me to go back to people and apologize about comments I made.

A Jew may tell me Jewish jokes, but I as a German cannot presume on the liberty to do likewise.

narrowpath

The original story (about predestination) reminds me of a quote from celebrated physicist Sir Stephen Hawking in his work "A Brief History of Time: "[i]I find that even people who claim everything is predestined look both ways before crossing the street[/i]."

:-P

"I find that even people who claim everything is predestined look both ways before crossing the street."

Stephen Hawking may be more right in his evaluation of predestination then what Calvinists want to admit: they are not consistent. Opps! I better quit before I get embroiled in some hair splitting!

ginnyrose