Scriptures Revealing The Endtime Harvest

sermonindex Oct 30, 2008

A Harvest of Maturity,
A Harvest Of Separation

Matthew 13:47-50 "Again, the Kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:

Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.

SO SHALL IT BE AT THE END OF THE WORLD: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,

And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

Now, isn't it amazing how so many people, and people who claim prophetic insight, think that they have a more correct version of the end times than Jesus...Himself?!

Seriously, so many claim that Jesus is their Lord and yet they do not believe His very Words. They would rather believe their Pastor or a word that just sounds more accepting of everybody. Do you think we could just listen to Jesus for change?! Gee, thanks.

I just fail to see "millions" being swept into the Kingdom here. (For the intellectual theologians who stumble over the Word...being dissobediant, the "multitude without number" in Revelation is ALL the saints from ages past.) It looks to me like millions have already been made to think they're in the Kingdom (the mixed multitudes of the "whosoever wills" came into the net. Matt.13:47), but now in this time of the end-time harvest...it is when the Angels are sent forth to bring about the final separation.

The "good", the seed of the Son of man, are gathered into the true revelation and building up of the Body of Christ (the Father's "barn"); and the "bad", the seed of the wicked one, are gathered into denominational and Babylonian "bundles" of false unity and compromise for their burning.

2 Thessalonians 1:3-12 "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come A FALLING AWAY FIRST, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

And now you know what withholdeth (what we're waiting for) that He (Jesus) might be revealed in His time.

For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he (the tares) be taken out of the way.

And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the Spirit of His mouth, and destroy with the brightness of His coming:

Even him, whose coming is after the working of satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the LOVE OF THE TRUTH, that they might be saved.

And for this cause God shall SEND THEM STRONG DELUSION, that they should believe a lie:

That they all might be damned who believe not the Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Contrary to what many are following and believing, there will come a falling away of multitudes; and these multitudes are being led astray by lying signs and wonders, as it also says will happen in Revelation 13:14, "And deceived them by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast..."

The original question was that of when the day of Christ was to be revealed, and they are told that Christ will be revealed just following the time that the man of sin is revealed. When the "seed of the wicked one" come to their full manifestation, then the Lord destroys them with the Brightness of HIS coming.

The Scriptures are clear on these things, and the Scriptures do not contradict themselves. We see confirmation of these Truths in many other areas of the Word of God. But if individuals and Church groups, and followers of the so called "revival fires", are intent on twisting and ignoring the Truth...then the beast and the false prophets will gladly accommodate them under the influence of "strong delusion". But, hey, it's all part of the Master Plan...the Master's plan.

Everything is to be separated into their appointed destinies, once and for all.

2 Thessalonians 1: 7-10 "And you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels,

In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

WHEN HE SHALL COME TO BE GLORIFIED IN HIS SAINTS, and to be admired in all them that believe..."

So, it behooves us to be wary of signs and wonders. Be on the alert!! And have your discernment finely tuned, with the "fresh oil" of the Holy Spirit. According to these Scriptures, it is not signs and wonders that "saves us", but the LOVE OF THE TRUTH...the very thing that they are "falling away" from.

A lying sign is that which claims to point toward something (a sign gives direction), but that sign is LYING because it actually points and leads to a destructive destination.

Matthew 24:24 "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, IF it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Behold, I have told you before.

Praise God, it is NOT possible for the elect to be deceived. For they are safe and sound in the Revelation of the Body of Christ, and crowned with His Mind and Headship.

God has set up His true watchmen to prophetically warn and equip His own, and those true sheep hear their Master's voice...following no other.

Thus saith the Lord......

"The great plan of the ages, the purpose for which Jesus died, the reason the martyrs were so willing to suffer untold agony, is about to come to fulfillment in this generation in which we live. Do you believe it? Say, Amen! We don't know all the details of how it will all come about, but we know that for those who are overcomers in Christ Jesus our Lord, the future indeed is bright. And for those who reject His Word and the counsel of the Spirit in this Day of preparation, the future is the darkest man has ever known.

"Great distruction is coming upon the world, even this fair land of America will be torn and bleeding with the ravages of the most destructive war the world has ever known, a war in which from 50 to 100 million civilians will die within minutes after it begins. You say, 'impoossible, it won't happen here!' I say to you that it will happen here, and only those who have entered into God's Ark for this hour...the Body of Christ, will be safe from the terrible flood of judgment about to be poured out upon this nation.

"As it was in the days of Noah....but wait...what does it say about Noah's day? Let us look into God's Word for the answer instead of just swallowing the traditions of man, as we have in the past. Are you willing to do that? To believe God's Word and come out of the prison house of man's theology? God spoke to Jeremiah while he was in the prison, and because he heard God's voice and believed, he was delivered out of the prison and became free. You can be free today too, my friend, for Jesus said, 'Ye shall know the Truth, and the Truth shall make you free.' Just believe the plain teaching of the Word of God, regardless of how it cuts your past theology and teaching." (Excerpt from 'One Shall Be Taken'-by Bill Britton)

God Bless you now as you seriously consider these things in this season of Harvest...separation and the final ingatherings.

B

boG Oct 30, 2008

It looks to me like millions have already been made to think they're in the Kingdom (the mixed multitudes of the "whosoever wills" came into the net. Matt.13:47)

~~[b]~~John 3
15.[/b] That ~~[b]~~whosoever[/b] believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
~~[b]~~16.[/b] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that ~~[b]~~whosoever[/b] believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

~~[b]~~Revelation 22
17.[/b] And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And ~~[b]~~whosoever will[/b], let him take the water of life freely.

Are you referring to these "~~[b]~~whosoever[/b]"?

Thus saith the Lord......

Yea, did the Lord really say all that?

sermonindex Oct 31, 2008

Yes, those are the "whosoever" that I am refering to. The same "whosoever" that came into the net...the "gathering of every kind". And then these mixed multitudes of fish were separated...the good from the bad. Because you see, "it is not of him WHO WILLS, or a him that runs, but of God who showeth mercy".

Actually, the "whosoever will" of John 3 are different than the "whosoever" of Rev.22:17.

Do YOU think God said all that..."thus saith the Lord"? Judge for yourself. Ask God.

B

boG Oct 31, 2008

Actually, the "whosoever will" of John 3 are different than the "whosoever" of Rev.22:17.

John 3 - "whosoever believes" - receive everlasting life

Rev 22 - "whosoever wills" - receive everlasting life

What is the difference?

Do YOU think God said all that..."thus saith the Lord"? Judge for yourself. Ask God.

You are the one who said, "thus saith the Lord." I can only assume you actually believe this is the Word of God through Bill Britton.

So if you are going to ask me what I "think" about this then let us take a look.

this fair land of America will be torn and bleeding with the ravages of the most destructive war the world has ever known, a war in which from 50 to 100 million civilians will die within minutes after it begins [...] and only those who have entered into God's Ark for this hour...the Body of Christ, will be safe from the terrible flood of judgment about to be poured out upon this nation.

I am not sure but it would appear Mr. Britton is attempting to say that those who are in "the Body of Christ" will not be part of the 50 to 100 million civilians that will die.

Now what shall we say concerning this? Shall I search out the chapter and verse in the Bible? Hm, it is not in the Bible -- nope not there.

So then, by what standard shall we judge this? Where is the 2nd and/or 3rd witness by which we may establish every fact?

Here is what I think: it is a quaint doomsday "prophecy" -- just like any other. If it actually happens, I will be impressed, though I seriously doubt it.

Now, we may consider -- yea, it'll be a terrific war that mars the face of the earth and devastates the populace of the US (though "the Body of Christ" will not suffer these things, only the godless man shall die; after all, this judgment is for them). However, I wouldn't be surprised if there was no great war -- as the Scriptures say, the anti-christ shall conquer through "peace." Maybe this will be a counter to a physical war or maybe it is a spiritual war that is conquering the people.

God spoke to Jeremiah while he was in the prison, and because he heard God's voice and believed, he was delivered out of the prison and became free. You can be free today too, my friend, for Jesus said, 'Ye shall know the Truth, and the Truth shall make you free.'

Now is this a promise? Is there a chapter and verse in the Bible that says, "if you hear God's voice and believe -- you will be delivered out of prison"?

If we are talking about sin, temptation, the powers of darkness in this present world -- yea, sure, that is the power of Christ in us.

If we are talking about physical persecutions in this world (even, 50 to 100 million civilian deaths) -- no, absolutely not. There is no guarantee of deliverance from prison or torture or death. In fact, Scripture declares. ~~[b]~~Revelation 13:7[/b], "It was also given to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them, and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him." This is a good indication that there is no such promise of "the Body of Christ" being withheld from any casualties -- by wars or otherwise..

Just believe the plain teaching of the Word of God, regardless of how it cuts your past theology and teaching.

And this I will do, Lord willing, however, these things Mr. Britton has said are not "the plain teaching of the Word of God," therefore, I will not "just believe."

C

crsschk Oct 31, 2008

Thus saith the Lord......

Not here. Not anywhere for that matter. It is greatly unnerving the sheer disregard and ease of the most unruly and untamable member to speak in Gods stead. I am well beyond fed up with it in all these prophetic ramblings. This is wind and noise, imaginations and presumption it makes no difference if it's wrath or prosperity, it's all ~~[i]~~vain[/i].

"The great plan of the ages, the purpose for which Jesus died, the reason the martyrs were so willing to suffer untold agony, is about to come to fulfillment in this generation in which we live. Do you believe it?

No.

Say, Amen!

Why?

We don't know all the details of how it will all come about,

Why not? So you can salvage some further notion when it all fails?

... but we know that for those who are overcomers in Christ Jesus our Lord, the future indeed is bright. And for those who reject His Word and the counsel of the Spirit in this Day of preparation, the future is the darkest man has ever known.

It is rejected wholesale because it never came from anywhere but an imagination in the first place.

"Great distruction is coming upon the world, even this fair land of America will be torn and bleeding with the ravages of the most destructive war the world has ever known, a war in which from 50 to 100 million civilians will die within minutes after it begins. You say, 'impoossible, it won't happen here!' I say to you that it will happen here, and only those who have entered into God's Ark for this hour...the Body of Christ, will be safe from the terrible flood of judgment about to be poured out upon this nation.

And I say to you do not listen to any of these people, ever.

"As it was in the days of Noah....but wait...what does it say about Noah's day? Let us look into God's Word for the answer instead of just swallowing the traditions of man, as we have in the past.

Yes let us do so;

~~[i]~~For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.[/i] 2Pe 2:18

... To believe God's Word and come out of the prison house of man's theology?

Yes indeed! A man's very recent theology that has no record through the course of true Christian history but is a construct of fallen mens minds that ~~[i]~~they[/i] have a 'word' from the Lord while it contradicts every instance of His attributes and known voice in scripture. It sounds nothing like what He has already stated in those same scriptures and always sounds like the same rhetoric that can be exchanged amongst the unchallenged notions of like individuals. There is little to no difference between them. There is no holding their feet to the fire and an easy dismissal when they are proven false, errant and deception ridden. It makes no difference what their profession is, they are just wrong, flatly wrong, plainly wrong. This is madness that it just goes on and on and on. It is hogwash, balderdash, nonsense, foolhardy and damaging to the unsuspecting and unlearned. Multitudes are caught up in believing all these contradictory claims that are now pumped out daily. The vernacular is the same but the 'messages' are decidedly obtuse crafted out of todays news and discarded at any whim that blows across the horizon. It is 'this season' and 'that season' - for blessing and "What I am about to do" all supposedly from the very ... I cannot even bring myself to utter the thought. So far is this from anything, anything at all of the God of the faithful that it amazes and stuns the thinking just how simply it is all given such an easy acquiescence. I am absolutely indignant, it raise the blood pressure to hear these things. Take it somewhere else, no do not do that, just take it away and give it to no one else, spare them - I beg you. This nonsense has ruined many, deluded them into thinking that they are hearing from supposed oracles, from so called, self professing 'prophets' and it is all sheer rubbish.

sermonindex Oct 31, 2008

Rev. 22 doesn't say "shall receive everlasting life", it says, "shall take of the water of life freely"...they were already in.

We'll see about Bill Britton's prophecy.

But, certainly, the TRUE body of Christ are free from the judgements of God.

20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
Isaiah 26:20 (KJV)

You know, I've never come across such snobby attitudes in what are supposed to be Christians. Did I interupt a private little club here, or something?

M

Miccah Oct 31, 2008

3rddaymsngr wrote:

You know, I've never come across such snobby attitudes in what are supposed to be Christians. Did I interupt a private little club here, or something?

Friend..... :-)

B

boG Oct 31, 2008

~~[b]~~Revelation 22
17.[/b] And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the ~~[b]~~water of life[/b] freely.

~~[b]~~the water of life[/b]

~~[b]~~John 4
14.[/b] but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him shall never thirst; but the ~~[b]~~water[/b] that I will give him will become in him a well of water springing up to ~~[b]~~eternal life[/b]."

C

crsschk Oct 31, 2008

You know, I've never come across such snobby attitudes in what are supposed to be Christians. Did I interupt a private little club here, or something?

Let's getting something straight. You have been regestered here for a grand total of 4 days and have made all kinds of assumptions and presumptions. The first being one of complete ignorance as to where you find yourself. What pride is it that affords you to come to a setting and begin launshing off on whatever suits your fancy?

Read the following;

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crsschk wrote:
You know, I've never come across such snobby attitudes in what are supposed to be Christians. Did I interupt a private little club here, or something?
Let's getting something straight. You have been regestered here for a grand total of 4 days and have made all kinds of assumptions and presumptions. The first being one of complete ignorance as to where you find yourself. What pride is it that affords you to come to a setting and begin launshing off on whatever suits your fancy?
Read the following;
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Oh. so it's like any denominational church where you give your tithes faithfully, wash toilets, prove your submission to leadership, come under control...then if your "effectual measure" lines up with our vision and theology we'll let you speak?

Time is short...I thought I came into an already ongoing conversation. I can feel "at home" with "Christians" quite quickly, and join right in. It is not my fault if you all feel you must jump on my postings...like chickens on a bug.

So, I wonder how long I would have had to "introduce myself" and engage in "small talk" before my controversial beliefs and doctrines would have been received and discussed gracefully.

It's like trying to tell homosexuals "in a nice way" that their lifestyle is an abomination and that there is just absolutely NO justifying of it. What? Beat around the bush with sugar coatings and nicities for a couple months before you lower the boom?

So I shared some articles I wrote...big deal. Get over it. I never presumed or assumed nothing. I shared some Truth I believe hoping to edify and bless others. Which they have done every where but here.

C

crsschk Nov 1, 2008

Oh. so it's like any denominational church where you give your tithes faithfully, wash toilets, prove your submission to leadership, come under control...then if your "effectual measure" lines up with our vision and theology we'll let you speak?

And you are not presuming ...

So I shared some articles I wrote...big deal. Get over it. I never presumed or assumed nothing. I shared some Truth I believe hoping to edify and bless others. Which they have done every where but here.

And those other six forums you were proudly kicked off of. Seeing that you cannot respect the guidelines nor those who attempt to manage this forum then there is no other course of action than for you to be removed.

The blunt truth of the matter is that you are obstinate, selfish and let me add arrogant and pompous. Until you recognize the level of pride that drives your opinion, the smarminess of your disposition and disregard for needless contention you will find yourself in this same perspective - A lone, self applauding 'messenger' that feels that he must be doing the right thing with so much 'flak' coming back at him - A congratulatory pat on the back that you are alone in seeing and everyone else is blind. You are self deceived brother.

Get over yourself.