Food for thought on the beliefs of Wesley.
http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/wesley.the.calvinist.htm
When people quote Wesley, they would do well to understand that the beliefs of Wesley pre-conversion and post-conversion are quite different.
Old Joe
John Wesley believed in the T of TULIP and even there he believed in different degrees of prevenient grace which meant that man could always obey what God had commanded.
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John Wesley believed in the T of TULIP and even there he believed in different degrees of prevenient grace which meant that man could always obey what God had commanded.
As you have stated, if the 'T' is valid, the rest of the doctrines fall forth from it.
"Again, while Wesley agrees with Luther and Calvin and contemporary Wesleyans on many matters, he differs on some from both:
Wesley’s position is:
Because of the extent of original sin, human beings are completely dependent upon God for the work of salvation – in conviction, repentance, and faith.
A person can not be saved at any moment the person chooses, but only in those moments in which grace is being offered capable of creating saving faith.
The only part a person plays in the work of salvation is to place themselves in the means of grace and then when that grace that can create saving faith comes choose to cooperate with it.
However, even this work of human cooperation is in itself a gift of prevenient grace. "
Old Joe
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