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"evolution" of doctrinal understanding

sermonindex Dec 15, 2008

God created nature before He created man. Man slowly dissects nature and his scientific understanding grows over time. I'm glad I get surgery in the 21st century and not the 1st century. How about you?

Question: is it similar with our doctrinal understanding? Jesus came and walked, talked and lived in the past. Records of His life and teachings have been dissected ever since. Are we in a priviledged position as a 21st century church? Enjoying the benefits of 2 millennia of "scientific" theological research? To what degree?

thanks

T
TaylorOtwell Dec 15, 2008

I think we have some of both theological maturity and theological decline.

Regarding the person of Christ - this was hotly debated in the early centuries that and heresies were introduced and gained ground. However, the vast majority of professing Christians are now agreed on this issue. The understanding of the atonement and propitiation that Christ made has grown and matured. The understanding of Baptism and the Lord's Supper has been recovered, after it was distorted very early in church history.

On the other hand, many of the same issues that Paul combated are still problems today - justification by faith alone continues to be denied in various ways, some being more subtle than others. The moral laxity present in some early churches is still present in many modern churches. The sense of brotherhood and community that seems to have been present in some early churches also seems to have faded.

It is naive to think that if we could only get back to "the early church" things would be well and good. Read Corinthians and Galatians - there were serious problems even in Apostolic founded churches.

So, in summary, I would say we have grown and matured in some areas, while perhaps declining in others. We must strive to obey the commands of the Lord and the Apostles, while taking heed to the warnings given to early churches, as well as the churches failures.

sermonindex Dec 15, 2008

Thank you for that. I think you nailed it. Honest research, dissection and scrutinty never hurt... if done honestly. Yet they don't guarantee that we will live out what we understand.

Honestly, I agree whole heartedly with the notion that "getting back to the early church" is a bit naive. Getting back to Christ, no matter what generation you are in -- remember, God put you in this generation for a specific purpose (Acts 17) -- is the challenge. And "nothing has befallen you that is not common to man" as Paul said.

It will always be hard to be Christ-like. There is no magic formula and every generation of Christians have had ups and downs. To believe that the church was healthier overall in some past century is to deny the ongoing power of God through the Holy Spirit. Our batteries are not old! They are new every morning (Lamentations 3:22-23). Praise God!

Yes, the emergent church is a cancer.
Yes, baby boomer Christianity has ushered in a fat cat mentality of compromise and materialism.

But nothing is happening that hasn't happened in the past. James' epistle was aimed at rich Jewish Roman Christians. Hello? That's us in the West today.

Scripture. Go back to Scripture, not some early century hymnal, dress code, hair cut, gestures, etc. The Holy Spirit's direction through the principles of Scripture!

Amen! Bless you and may God light a fire underneath you that fumes peace, joy, love, patience, wisdom and righteousness.

over and out

T
TaylorOtwell Dec 15, 2008

I agree.

There is really no situation I know of that is entirely new to today. There were those in Paul's day who supposed that "godliness was a means to financial gain" (1st Tim 5:6, NIV).

There were those who wanted to re-institute temple practices and old covenant ceremonies.

There were those who supposed God's grace was an excuse for living lives of sin.

We also need to remember that the gates of hell will not prevail against the church. [b]And, remember that gates are defensive weapons[/b] - they don't get up and move. Therefore, the church is not huddled up in a bunker waiting for the end, we are casting down every philosophy and idea that exalts itself over God (even false theological ideas), by the grace of our Lord - looking forward to coming of our blessed God.

sermonindex Dec 15, 2008

And, remember that gates are defensive weapons

So true! We need to be lovingly hammering truth into the lives of our co-workers, family, friends and strangers at the bus stop.

Hell fears the Christian who realizes "greater is He who is in me, than he who is in the world."

God Bless

S
sojourner7 Dec 15, 2008

C. S. Lewis once said; "Our doctrine should be
simple for even a child to understand. Jesus
spoke plainly using simple things to teach
spiritual lessons. Everything He taught is
practical, workable, livable." There you
have the heart of doctrinal truth--practice
it, work it, live it !!

sermonindex Dec 15, 2008

Hello spinalmanu.

This is an interesting question you've asked - "Question: is it similar with our doctrinal understanding?"

I'd surely have to answer yes, but not based on "scientific" reasons, nor would I use the word 'evolution', but from observation and personal events - I would say it is, because of "the Days" we are living in - as in "those days" spoken of by Daniel and John.

It is going both ways - the Apostasy increasing in strength daily - but HIS Sheep, hearing HIM more clearly and HIS Word becoming more alive to them than ever.

I'm reminded of a verse here - "Rev 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still."

A.T. Robertson explains that the language here is more accurately --- "let him [b]be made[/b] _______ still."

To be "made" unjust, filthy, righteous or holy still/or further, is something that seems to be manifesting in these days more than we've ever witnessed in the last 50 yr.s.

It appears also that as He said in 2Thess2 - that those who do not love the Truth, will be sent into the strong delusion.
That also seems apparent with this merging religion and mix of the church with the world.

But on the flip-side, we've met more Saints within the last few years that have testified to having that experience of HIS Word becoming more alive to them and their understanding of it enlightened or brought to deeper understandings of the times/current events, etc., as they relate to these last days.
All quite amazing if you ask me.
As it gets darker - His own are shining brighter and The Light is from HIM - His Grace and revelation of Him and His Word is His Grace.

The Testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of Prophecy.
He is fulfilling HIS Promise to guide us into all truth and even show things to come.

Those who are HIS sheep hear Him, follow and won't follow another and HE is speaking through His Word and The Comforter.

HE is opening the understanding, spoken of by Daniel - that which had been sealed until these days.

Hard times ahead will require that sureness of a fine-tuned ear/spirit.

That "sure Word" that can be fed to those who need His comfort or salvation, during the present and coming darkness.

GOD Bless you.

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