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A Sad Day for Christian Music

sermonindex Jan 2, 2009


[b]A Sad Day for Christian Music[/b]

From www.rayboltz.com:
A few years ago I made the decision to retire from contemporary Christian music. I had won awards, performed in front of thousands of people, and sold millions of records. Still, I believed that if people knew who I really was, I would never be accepted. During the last few years I've learned that there are many people who feel the same way I did. One church in particular has helped me in many ways. The Metropolitan Community Church (www.mccchurch.org) was started forty years ago by Rev. Troy Perry in the Los Angeles area and has an outreach to the LGTB (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender) community. I am happy to announce that I have accepted an invitation to perform at two of their churches. On September 14th, I will be singing at the Jesus Metropolitan Community Church (www.jesusmcc.org) in Indianapolis at 6:00p.m. On September 21st, I'll be singing at the Metropolitan Community Church of Washington, D.C. (www.mccdc.com) at 3:00p.m.

From Right Celebrity:
It is no longer a secret, gospel singer Ray Boltz has publicly come out and announced that he is gay. Boltz told the Washington Blade that he was “tired of living a lie“. On December 26, 2004, the same day the tsunami hit, he told his family that he was gay. He tried to deny his feelings even while growing up and thought that becoming Christian was a way to deal with it. He and his ex-wife Carol were married for 33 years, and together they had four children. But for Boltz, the charade of playing straight led him to become depressed and he sought therapy. He took anti-depressants and at one point had become suicidal.

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Lordoitagain Jan 2, 2009

Did you see the song that he is displaying on his site. He is singing a song that basically compares the modern Christian stand against sodomy to some past religious claims against interracial marriage.

SONG LYRICS: “Don’t Tell Me Who To Love”

written by Ray Boltz (c) 2008 Shepherd Boy Music/ASCAP

VERSE ONE

The year was 1966 and they were wearing their wedding bands

She was black and he was white and some people didn’t understand

The judge said that’s not legal, the preacher called it a sin

But they couldn’t stop them cause he loved her and she loved him

CHORUS

Don’t tell me who to love, don’t tell me who to kiss

Don’t tell me that there’s something wrong because I feel like this

I know what’s in my heart, that should be enough

Don’t tell me, don’t tell me no, don’t tell me who to love

VERSE TWO

Maybe you’re in love today and you’ve been making wedding plans

But there is someone in your way shouting things cause they don’t understand

The judge says that’s not legal, the preacher calls it a sin

Oh you just remember they were wrong before and they’re wrong again

REPEAT CHORUS

BRIDGE

Now there always will be hatred and voices that condemn

Oh but I believe that true love is gonna make it in the end

REPEAT CHORUS (fade)


It is truly sad that he rode waves of high popularity in "Christian Music" and that now he is fighting Biblical Christianity from his seat of high popularity.

He is now building again those things that he destroyed:

Galatians 2:16  Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
17  But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.
18  For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.
19  For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
20  I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.


If Christ ever lived in Ray Boltz at some time in the past, He obviously doesn't now.

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HeartSong Jan 2, 2009

We choose that which we will love.
And that becomes our truth
- even if it is a lie.

But think what we will,
there is only One Truth.
And there is only One Way.

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JEFFREYB Jan 2, 2009


I think he should stay away from these anti depressent, they make you run around the house like a chicken without a head.

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RobertW Jan 3, 2009

When I first heard this news it was one of the most vexing things I ever heard. His music was a great inspiration when I was a young Christian.

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ginnyrose Jan 3, 2009

Several years ago "Christianity Today" magazine had a feature article dealing with modern Christian music. The writer made a comment to a producer that it must be very inspiring to work with so many Christian artists...he replied that he did not know of any who were Christians...(Maybe one day when I have time I will see if I can dig out that article - I have an egg crate full of back issues of CT magazines...couldn't bear to throw them away.)

Reckon the fellow was more right then we want to admit...

ginnyrose

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dohzman Jan 3, 2009

Some years back in the 90's, Canton used to have alot of christian artists come in to the palace to perform, the fire marshall here (he's not a christian), made a comment that Carmen and his team was the only real christian group he ever saw there. Thier reverance and conduct so impressed him that he became open to the christian witness. So who knows? Judge nothing before the time.

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rbanks Jan 3, 2009


RobertW wrote:
When I first heard this news it was one of the most vexing things I ever heard. His music was a great inspiration when I was a young Christian.

Hey RobertW,

I didn't realize you were so old :-P

No, it really is sad that after all those inspiring songs that he sang, he has gone to the unnatural affection of loving that that God hates. Worshipping the creatures sin instead of the creator, who is holy.

Grace to all!

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TroyorTakoda Jan 3, 2009

Wow I had no idea about that. He did some music for one of our state youth conventions many years ago. Yes I have heard about that church, and yes I very much agree about the anti-depressants because I know about that from experience and from the experience of a few friends of mine that they can make someone ten times worse if misdiagnosed, and illnesses of that sort are very often misdiagnosed. Say what they will, but the only even semi-conclusive evidence for that type of lifestyle being genetic even a little bit was the Kinsey report, and that was proven to be a scam. Lifestyle is a choice, skin color is not, and I think it degrades the civil rights movement to compare a chosen lifestyle with skin color.

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psalm1 Jan 3, 2009

thank you Jesus for the remnant.

The real gospel is rarely preached.

That little roadblock called dying is so outdated.

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White_Stone Jan 3, 2009

Hello Robert and everyone else,

My husband and I were saved while viewing the PTL Club on late night TV.

Thank God for the words of the Apostle Paul:

[b][color=0033FF][font=Verdana]18: What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in [u]pretence[/u], or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.[/font][/color][/b]

Such is the marvelous mystery and absolute power and glory of our Lord Jesus.

Praise His name

[size=xx-small]white stone[/size]

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ginnyrose Jan 5, 2009

So who knows? Judge nothing before the time.

True. However, have you not ever had this sense that something is very wrong when you had no external evidence to prove it so only to find out later that your sense was right on? Methinks this is the spirit of God warning us and in many times it works to prepare one for what will be revealed.

Blessings,
ginnyrose

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White_Stone Jan 5, 2009

Hello Dear ginnyrose,

Methinks this is the spirit of God warning us and in many times it works to prepare one for what will be revealed.

My husband and I feel the same way you do. It is not judging but knowing the signs, however subtle they may be. Could not American Indians track by signs White Man could not see? Same thing in my opinion.

Personally, I avoid most of the modern forms of Praise songs and singers for a couple of reasons. We do not like their musical style. We spent many years as working musicians and have very demanding standards. We do not like music that you can not [b]understand[/b] what is being sung. They blur, mumble and slur the words. One could be listening to satanic words for all one knows.

I had better just go wash dishes and get off my soap box. Hope you all are having a good evening. God has blessed us with Spring in January. Our peach tree is blooming!

Kind regards,
white stone

sermonindex Jan 5, 2009

Sad day for christians...not music. I was never a Ray Boltz fan, never liked his style. What is worse is what the world sees? The world sees another Christian living a lie, not truly living in the truth. They don't see many believers dying to self and walking and living in the truth.

I know I fall short as many of us do, but if you truly believe the gospel in ALL its truth we won't bend the truth to fit our pleasures and desires. Our flesh may fight to be obedient, but a regenerate heart wants and desires to be obedient. We may fall into to sin and at times fall into a bondage of a sin. But what do you do, stay in your sin and find others who will accept it or repent and gather with believers who will fight with you in prayer and study of the word?

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