I would love to hera from the word of God if this biblical. Or if this is the best for a women as a help mate to a man? Does this take the place where a man could be? Would it better serve to have her support them, and prayig? THe question isn't what she can't but what would fullfil a biblical role best
Thanks
charlene
Mary was one of the first preachers. She went and told the apostles that she had seen the risen Lord, and that they were to go to Galilee just as He said. If this is not preaching, then I don't know what is.
Preach on sis. All believers are called to share thier faith...
Blessings Greg ;-)
You asked what would fulfill a biblical role best. I would say that one on one witnessing and praying and such would best fulfill the biblical role.
Open air preaching is different from one on one witnessing. I have seen many ladies do excellent one on one witnessing.
God bless, John
I asked my husband about this and he said he doesn't see any problem with it. I have open air preached quite a few times already and once with my husband. Were a busy family right now with five kids, my husband works full time and has college online at night and I work fulltime. My priority according to Titus 2 is my husband and family first, secondly whatever else the Lord leads me to do once I clear it with my husband.
It's interesting you brought this up because yesterday after church one of the women made a sign saying something to the effect of "repent, Jesus is coming soon!" I prayed a long time ago for another woman to preach with or I couldn't go because my husband does not want me preaching with other men, understandably. So who knows, Lord willing, if my husband is ok with it than maybe I will make a sign up and join her. One thing that has always been on my husband's heart is to get involved with the members of our church.
I would have to pray about it though. My husband agrees with me that we need to be led of the spirit. He also agrees with me that it needs to be done in a way that glorifies the Lord, being a woman. I don't feel as a woman that it is our place to be confrontational but to just simply share the gospel.
Most of all my husband and I believe that whatever you do, man or woman, you need to be led of the spirit.
Romans 8:14
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Also... the woman at Samaria in John 4 who Jesus ministered to. She ended up leading the entire city to Christ.
And not only her, but the first ones to declare that Christ is risen on the day of His resurrection were all women.
Absolutely - a woman can open-air preach. Male and female, Jew and Greek, slave or free - all are one in Christ.
Anyone who says other wise is bound by legalism
awakenwithin wrote:
I would love to hera from the word of God if this biblical. Or if this is the best for a women as a help mate to a man? Does this take the place where a man could be? Would it better serve to have her support them, and prayig? THe question isn't what she can't but what would fullfil a biblical role bestThanks
charlene
This is my personal addition, so take it for what it's worth! People are sick and tired of hearing they are going to hell. Share in love what Christ has done for you. He's alive and well working in the land today!
God bless!!
My great great grandmother was a Methodist street preacher in certain small towns in Missouri. She was (as I have heard) utterly holiness. Understand that in those days men often took the back seat and the women carried the spiritual load. In fact, my great great grandfather just accompanied her on the streets as she preached.
Many churches were started by women in those days. :-o Yes. They headed the meetings because the men were at home and often abusive and drunk. Just being honest. If it were not for women the work of God had near ceased in many parts of Missouri where I'm from. Bible belt? Well, we have the women to thank God for as much as any other person.
It is a strange thing I have seen over the years. It was almost as if a transition was trying to take place in which the women were handing off the spiritual load to the men and a host of godly women have no gone on to their reward. And thinking that men would shoulder the ark few women took up their cause and walked with God as in the former days. And now we are very much void of deeply spiritual women and men.
So in an environment where men often refuse to respond to God I see [i]no shame[i]no sin
KingJimmy,
There have been many times when godly women have shared a testimony with others and God has used it in a mighty way, such as the woman at the well in John 4 and Mary (as you mentioned). However, the verses that apply to this particular situation are as follows:
1 Timothy 2:11-15 (King James Version)
11. Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
When we look at the passage above and at 1 Corinthians 11 (which instructs women to wear head coverings when praying or prophecying) we may be tempted to think that it was something that was said to fit in with the culture of the day, but Paul makes it clear in the above passage that it was because of Adam and Eve that these things are necessary, not because of their current culture. (That is also true of 1 Cor. 11 when Paul says that it is "because of the angels" and "nature itself teaches you" about a women's head being covered. It had nothing to do with the culture of the day).
Preaching or teaching (it would be hard to seperate the two), is something that God has required from men. I know of certain situations where a man would not speak and so a women was used by God. But if we are striving for holiness and purity, then we should want to do what God wants us to do, not the second best. God has given women many gifts that men do not have and He even tells us in the Word when a woman should teach:
Titus 2:3-5 (King James Version)
3. The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; 4. That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, 5. To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
When older women teach younger women how to live a Godly life, I am sure it is a beautiful thing in God's sight. I interpret that as not just women who are older in age but who are more mature in their faith, they may teach new converts godliness also.
Please let me know if I have missed anything or if there are other scriptures on this issue and let us run this race according to the rules.
- Jeff
no they cannot.
all they are showing is they don't want to follow God's law on the subject and so have nothing of value to say.
women were never part of the OT priesthood.
it's the 1 job they can't do, and it's the sin of eve to always be striving against man to be equal to/above him.
scotty81 wrote:
no they cannot.all they are showing is they don't want to follow God's law on the subject and so have nothing of value to say.
women were never part of the OT priesthood.
it's the 1 job they can't do, and it's the sin of eve to always be striving against man to be equal to/above him.
Scotty,
I didn't realize that we were still under the OT priesthood? Has the NT not come, yet?
:-(
I will say this: I think it should be the main role of the man to do the preaching, however so many men are/and have stepping(ed) down from this role and the role of being the head of the house, that God is using those who are willing - the women.
scotty81 wrote:
it's the 1 job they can't do, and it's the sin of eve to always be striving against man to be equal to/above him.
I strive! Because I work a full time job and I work with men. I have to be tough sometimes. Especially if I ever get into management. Why? Because my husband wants me to! :-) I have been trying to be gentle but I think I need to get more brassy. People don't listen to you if your a push-over.
God is not the God of disorder. If a woman cannot submit to God in that area she will not submit in other areas.
the trend for women to become preachers is from secular feminism, not from God.
matthew 5:19 - Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
scotty81 wrote:God is not the God of disorder. If a woman cannot submit to God in that area she will not submit in other areas.
the trend for women to become preachers is from secular feminism, not from God.
Women working outside of the home is from feminism but I am obeying my husband by doing so but that doesn't make us feminists. There are also alot of women who preach in the church because their pastor husbands ask them to. For them not to obey would be going against scripture.
then the husband preacher is wrong.
anyway who has more authority over you, God or your husband.
If he told you to preach a message denying the trinity would you blindly do it because he told you to. A woman preacher is already going against scripture.
allowing womem preachers is seen as a "small" thing but to God it has equal measure with disobeying the "larger" commandments.
scotty81 wrote:
then the husband preacher is wrong.anyway who has more authority over you, God or your husband.
If he told you to preach a message denying the trinity would you blindly do it because he told you to. A woman preacher is already going against scripture.
allowing womem preachers is seen as a "small" thing but to God it has equal measure with disobeying the "larger" commandments.
According to scripture wives are to submit to their husbands.
Ephesians 5:22
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
No, I would never deny God.
allowing womem preachers is seen as a "small" thing but to God it has equal measure with disobeying the "larger" commandments.
What larger commandments? Are you saying that we should only obey sometimes? Which times should we obey?
BTW, welcome to the wonderful world that women have to go through on a daily basis! Aren't you glad that you don't have to wake up every morning and have to decide 24 hours a day which commandment you should obey?
So now you have to take every single commandment in the bible and tell us women which ones are "the larger" as you say. :-D
RebeccaF wrote:
Women working outside of the home is from feminism but I am obeying my husband by doing so. There are also alot of women who preach in the church because their pastor husbands ask them to. For them not to obey would be going against scripture.
You got it [i]all[i]our
If your husband or pastor asks from you to go and sell drugs or steal, will you obey him?
According to your way of thinking, you should obey them, am I right? But according to the Word 'We ought to obey God rather than men. ' (Acts 5:29)
And as you said that 'Women working outside of the home is from feminism' and thinking that stealing or something else is a 'big issue', and obey and doing something that is 'from feminism' is 'not so big deal', maybe with the excuse 'I need to provide for the family', it's a big lie and deception. I hope that you know well who is the invertor of the feminism, and what has caused already, not in the world, but in the church.
Everything has an order in the Scriptures, proper order, proper priorities. There is no much place for confusion when we are [i]ready
I wish my mother was here (and knew english) and give a testimonies, how she reacted and reacts when it was required from my father to do something that is not from God. When a person is deciding to stand for God and the biblical truth first, then see what the Lord could do through that person and how the enemies will bow their heads in shame, because they wanted to touch God's servant, and will give testimony that the victory is Lord's and that they cannot go against what HE says. I have seen this first hand in my home. But if you decide not to stand for the truth, and just give up the battle with poor excuses for lying the conscience, there will be no victory nor a testimony for the Lord on your lips. But just a miserable life. If there are no battles, there will be no victories. If we draw back, the Lord says that He has no pleasure in us.
i'm pointing out you'll obey the 10 commandments but ignore ones like forbiding women to preach.
I don't think a woman preaching will send them to hell but they will find in heaven they have absolutely no rewards for their works on earth. Since they are outside the will of God. Do you really want to be saved but have nothing rewarded for being a faithful servant
up to you.
Dear Scotty and Tears of Joy,
If you all feel so strongly about this, then don't sit under a women preaching, walk away, cross the street.
But if they are preaching Christ crucfied then who are you to interfere? If it's not of God, it will come to nothing; but if it is, you should not be found fighting against it so hard.
We have better things to be fighting against!
God bless,
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