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PCUSA: Presbyterians or prostitutes?

sermonindex Jul 27, 2004

The Presbyterian Church USA represents one of the dying branches of mainline Christianity in America today. Go into most PCUSA churches and you are more likely to hear the gospel of political correctness preached than the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The denomination is one of several plunging headlong into apostasy. As a former Presbyterian, I know. Nevertheless, even with the denomination in such an advanced state of moral and spiritual decay, it was disappointing to witness its General Assembly vote overwhelmingly to side with Yasser Arafat and his terrorist hordes over the only freedom-loving country in the Middle East. That's right. The PCUSA is the first and only church in America to vote to divest from Israel – equating the Jewish state with the apartheid state of South Africa. U.S. Jews are understandably upset, given lingering tensions over persecution in the past. They are also concerned about another policy adopted by the church at its annual meeting – refusing to cut off funding of evangelism of Jews. Let me attempt to put to rest any concerns about the Presbyterians evangelizing Jews. Have no fear, my Jewish friends, of evangelism by these Presbyterians. They have demonstrated their woeful inability to evangelize anyone in the last 20 years. All you have to do is look at the denominations dwindling numbers. But the PCUSA does command a $7 billion investment portfolio. And, therefore, it is of concern that its decision to divest from Israel might set off a chain reaction among other liberal mainline denominations.

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KeithLaMothe Jul 28, 2004

The PCUSA a liberal denomination, which is to say that it is not part of the body of Christ. There are some within it that are saved (I know a very good Korean pastor in it, but he believes very different than they), but it isn't really a "church" in the Biblical sense. Neither is it particularly "Presbyterian" in the sense of being true to its generally Reformed roots, and they probably don't care much about Covenant theology or paedo/credo-baptism (dunno how serious they take any doctrinal issues).The PCA (Presbyterian Church in America), OPC (Orthodox Presbyterian Church), and other various small Reformed Presbyterian denominations are still doing pretty well, being committed to regarding the Bible as the authoritative Word of God. I was converted under the ministry of a PCA man. South Korea, as I understand it, was largely evangelized by the Presbyterians.Hopefully the saints remaining in the PCUSA will either turn things around (unlikely, I think, and I don't know if God really calls us to try to reform such organizations) or will realize they should "come out from among them" and join with true believers in being the Body of Christ.

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ZekeO Jul 28, 2004

KeithLaMothe wrote:Hopefully the saints remaining in the PCUSA will either turn things around (unlikely, I think, and I don't know if God really calls us to try to reform such organizations) or will realize they should "come out from among them" and join with true believers in being the Body of Christ.Who would be the people that they would go to PCA/OPC? Zeke

sermonindex Jul 28, 2004

Who would be the people that they would go to PCA/OPC? I actually go to the PCC (Presbyterian Church of Canada). And I am alarmed at the direction an entire denomination is taking, but there are many godly men of God in this denomination I am sure of that, but I am worried that the older voices are not speaking up and being heard. I am hoping to start a prayer group for revival in my church and I encouage others to do that also.

sermonindex Jul 28, 2004

I was converted under the ministry of a PCA man. South Korea, as I understand it, was largely evangelized by the Presbyterians.Yes brother Keith really the only denomination to penertrate South Korea for a long time was the Presbyterian Church, there were many zealous spirit filled missionaries in those days, one namely that went to China was Jonathan Goforoth who actually was a missionary that my church funded.

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