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sermonindex Feb 12, 2009

You know i noticed one thing about certain sites giving reviews about christian movies and then i compared that to how many reviews christian documentaries or some christian classic books. When i am talking about christian documentaries i mean like the way of the masters hells best kept secret and true and false conversion, amazing grace calvinism theolgy for an example and then the christian classic books or todays top christian writers that hold to true biblical doctrine like macarthur, sproul, etc. I compared how many reviews were being given on the sites like cbd.com, amazon.com from people all over the world and the sad thing i noticed that their our tons of movie reviews and very little reviews of the things i think a christian should really be watching or spending more of their time in. For an example facing the giants the dvd gets 183 reviews or more while say the sovereignty of god by a.w pink gets less than 10 reviews. You see what i am talking about. Movies our movies, their acted out, their not even real, they our fake, yes to get a message out through a movie is good to a point but it should never replace reality. T.v , movies, sports all of this is entertainment, we should as christians be putting so much time in the worldly type of things. I feel like movies even if christian in a way our still following the world. Does anyone see where i am coming from, we should rather spend our time watching things that help our knowledge then movies. I am hurt to see all these reviews for something that is not even real and these writings` and documentaries and christian helps our only used by a seldom group of people, we see more reviews for books by joyce meyer , joel osteen, t.d jakes etc. while this powerful godly material is left unknown.

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DoulosQuinn Feb 12, 2009

funny thing bro, don't get me wrong I sell Christian DVDs on Ebay, but the worse the review the more likely I am to enjoy the movie.

"Fireproof" had scathing reviews with statments like "shoving Jesus down his throat"

"Though none go with mw" had ugly things said too

both were great.

(Queer movies critics have a stronghold, but are an effective anti-meter)

sermonindex Feb 12, 2009

Hey i loved fireproof and other christian movies too but i think us christians should be into more things that teach us and that our not entertainment as much, i just don't understand how many people review movies or watch them but seem to ignore the things that our real and completely helpful. I don't want to take away the fact that christian movies can be used to spread the gospel or to comfort but i think the fact that many christians today care to much about entertainment than the real thing like studying the bible and theology etc, you know what i mean

sermonindex Feb 12, 2009

I think what you're asking for is balance. And you're absoltely correct to want that. The folks down in Albany GA who put out Flywheel, Facing The Giants and Fireproof have been given a unique opportunity and ministry. God is blessing that.

But I agree also that thats where the Christian life for many people begins and ends, and they never go deeper. But why should they? The "prayer of salvation" is shallow. The church they attend is shallow. The preaching they sit under is shallow.

I contend (and this may get me in trouble) that it's those who do desire to go deeper and press hard after God that are truly saved. Thats one of the evidences of salvation according to 1 John.

The reason the so-called "church" is so entertainment centered is because it's really nothing more than a herd of goats with a few sheep scattered about.

Krispy

sermonindex Feb 12, 2009

Hey i loved fireproof and other christian movies too but i think us christians should be into more things that teach us and that our not entertainment as much, i just don't understand how many people review movies or watch them but seem to ignore the things that our real and completely helpful. I don't want to take away the fact that christian movies can be used to spread the gospel or to comfort but i think the fact that many christians today care to much about entertainment than the real thing like studying the bible and theology etc, you know what i mean

Not sure if you have read this short article called "The Great god Entertainment"... but you may find it useful.

[url=http://www.fleebabylon.com/featured/march08.htm]The Great god Entertainment - AW Tozer[/url]

-Jim

sermonindex Feb 12, 2009

consider this: in the 21st Century, what is the equivelant of the public square?

It's that TV, and this computer monitor.

Think of today, when you have "Christian Networks" , for instance, like "TBN".

Now, considering that, how many here, believe that such a network, like TBN, brings Glory to God?

I dont even want to list some of the folks that buy airtime on that network.

Now, lets think of Paul's time on Mar Hills...how did he comport himself?

As an artist, as a writer, when I work I do it for the Glory to God and to Glorify God, but what the "world", that is the "business" of media, whether it be televised content, or publishing loves to do is to "ghetto-ize" followers of Jesus who are artists, and pin the moniker, "Christian movie", or "Christian book", on a piece of art that has been made to Glorify God, and in the process those who have been "hurt" or abused by the church, will veer so far away from that movie or book, I've seen it and heard this testimony so many times.

So, when I work, I try to work in the spirit that Paul did on Mars Hill, and refuse to be pigeon holed by the world, so that those who are lost, wont even consider, picking up a book I wrote, because it says "Christian", or coming to a play I wrote that advertises itself as "Christian".

Now, many many books written by giants of the Faith, are wonderful, in instruction, encouragement, teaching to those who walk in the light, the tsadikkim, the righteous, but what did Jesus say, "Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. Go and learn what this means, 'I desire mercy and not sacrifice'. For I came not to call the righteous, but sinners'."

and to say that those who's gifting is in the arts, whatever discipline that maybe, are dancing and playing with the "world", when they exercise their gifts for the Glory of God, is a rather short-sighted view of what is "ministry". Who is man to say, anothers ministry, is a dance with the devil, or unprofitable?

Praise God, if one delves into the writings of A.W. Pink, or has the "Collected Works of J. Hudson Taylor", as I do, as I have many other biographies of missionaries, some antique, and these are stirring. These men and women went to far off lands to preach and teach and heal and witness the Love of Christ, but I say, sometimes your mission field is right in front of you, using the gifts that God has given you, and many of those who DONT know Christ, wrap themselves in "entertainment", just to relieve the boredom of a life led in darkness, what sin is it, to provide "content" that has a seamless Christology, and thus pricks the hearts of the penitent, pricks the hearts of the "sick"?

One piece of art, that directly pricked my heart was film written and directed and starred Robert Duvall, called, "The Apostle"....so let me ask you, did he write, direct and star in this film in vain? Even if it was just to "get" me?

or what about a film like "The Passion of the Christ"? It was directed by an adherent of the roman church, Mel Gibson. How MANY were brought to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ by viewing this film?

I would dare to speculate...many, which is why the devil attacked Mel, got him drinking again, got him driving drunk again, he got caught, and then what did the enemy impel him to spew from his mouth? The worst sort of alcohol fueled anti-semitism he could rage. The enemy did this, because the film DID bring many into the Kingdom.

Paul's witness on Mar Hills resonated because he was culturally relevant in that time, to those people, because you love Jesus, who told you to love them.

Babies need milk before they can get solid food, and you use the gifts God gave you, thats what the Holy Spirit impresses upon me....but be very wary of being arrogant in your righteousness and your knowledge of Christ. (I dont say this to any one person) Embrace mercy and realize the mission field, is an evolving, everchanging cultural rubric, and not everyone out there who is thirsting of the Living Waters, dying and sick, will gravitate, or be called by the works of 18th century theologians....or as Paul said, "when I am among the Jews...."

neil

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