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White_Stone Feb 25, 2009

Dear Friends in Christ,

While reading the Emerging Church is Now thread I saw much reference to a 3 legged stool plan. So I Googled that phrase. Praise the Lord it led me to this post. It was most edifying and deserving study. I hope the short excerpt I have included will whet you appetite to read more.

I welcome comments on the article once you have read it. Let me say this, I always welcome comments and PM's, even if you do not read the article. :-)

[url=http://anewcreature.blogspot.com/2008/12/three-legged-stool.html]A Three Legged Stool[/url]

It is annoying for me to go into a restaurant and to have a table that rocks and tips. That just really bugs me no end. Your water sloshes and spills. Every time you lean against it as you chat everything comes toppling your way. It is a chronic symptom of a table with four legs on an uneven floor. It is next to impossible to get each of the legs the precisely needed length and if you do manage to do that, when the table is moved only a few inches to a new position the rocking begins again. A three legged stool on the other hand will never tip. It is geometrically impossible for that to happen. It takes three points to define a plane. Get a three legged milk stool and cut the legs to differing lengths all you want, place it on the most uneven floor imaginable and it will not wobble and rock. Those three legs define a flat surface, and are inherently stable. I believe that our relationship with God is built upon communication with Him and this communication has three legs on which it stands. Each leg is necessary and when combined properly with the other two elements, will give us great stability and like the stool, when resting on these three components our relationship with God will be impossible to rock

Kindest regards,
white stone

sermonindex Feb 25, 2009

Dear Brother White Stone:

The 3 legged stool that Roger Oakland speaks of has nothing to do with anyone's relationship with Jesus Christ. It is related to those getting ready to enter the Great Tribulation, to those that will not be raptured, to non-believers and God haters.

What you have posted is a tragic error.

Please, since you have not listened to them, go to the youtube link that is provided on the other thread THE EMERGINHG CHRUCH IS NOW--and go to:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=roger+oakland+emerging+church&emb=0&aq=1&oq=roger+oak#

[b]And listen to the four 50 minute videos by Roger Oakland, and then post again.[/b]

May God bless you,

Walter


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White_Stone Feb 25, 2009

Dear Brother Walter,

Before I go to Youtube & the video's, I want to say I posted my link in a different thread because it is separate from yours. Only thing between the two is the fact that I found the article I linked through searching for referenced to 3 legged stool on Google.

If you wish me to edit the wording on my post please advice what you feel it should read. I do not want to muddy the water of your message.

I share your belief that the deception is in full swing and the time is at hand. I pray for all the Saints here on SI.

Kindest regards,
white stone

sermonindex Feb 25, 2009

Dear Brother White Stone:

There is no need to change your original post. After you watch the videos on youtube, just post again, and tell us what the three legged stool means in regards to Roger Oaklands teaching on end time events, and where we are in Church history at this moment.

God bless,

Walter


White_Stone wrote:
Dear Brother Walter,

Before I go to Youtube & the video's, I want to say I posted my link in a different thread because it is separate from yours. Only thing between the two is the fact that I found the article I linked through searching for referenced to 3 legged stool on Google.

If you wish me to edit the wording on my post please advice what you feel it should read. I do not want to muddy the water of your message.

I share your belief that the deception is in full swing and the time is at hand. I pray for all the Saints here on SI.

Kindest regards,
white stone

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White_Stone Feb 25, 2009

Dear Walter,

My husband and I watched/listened to most of the 50 min message on the Road to Rome. We feel we are in complete agreement with Roger Oaklands. We have seen this very thing for many years now.

The life God gave us not only removed us from the Physical Church but from Society in general. This gave us a unique ability to observe what went on in the US culture while not being involved in it. When He finally settled us in a place, we felt the need to attend a physical church but found none we could stay inside of for we saw the very things Mr. Oaklands is speaking about.

I commend his efforts to awaken people, and yours. I did find it discomforting that the video we watched kept showing the covers of books he has written. It gave the talk a feeling of a 'sales presentation' even if that was not his intent.

I can clearly see the plans that are bringing the New World Order into full effect and with it the One World Church. We are preparing for the total collapse of life as we have known it in this Country. Fortunately, through the life God gave us to experience we already know about subsistence living. And about living only on trust in Jesus.
Kind regards,
white stone

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HeartSong Feb 26, 2009

I welcome comments on the article once you have read it.

This must be why a tripod has three legs. In photography, if the camera moves in the time that it takes for the shutter to open and close, everything is blurry. If you want everything to be sharp and in focus, you use a tripod, especially in low light conditions where one typically needs to use a longer exposure to compensate for the reduced light. A longer exposure lets in more light.

This is opening my mind to all kinds of new concepts. Thanks for the excellent post.

:-)

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MJones Feb 26, 2009


White_Stone wrote:
Let me say this, I always welcome comments and PM's, even if you do not read the article. :-)

When at least most of us here on SI are geared to the building up and the encouragement of those who come here, it is always nice when those efforts are rewarded with an appreciative comment. In light of that, I must say I enjoyed the story of the 3 legged stool. It forms a mental picture from which I'm sure several applications can be drawn. I will enjoy mulling that one over.

Mike

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MJones Feb 26, 2009


HeartSong wrote:
in low light conditions where one typically needs to use a longer exposure to compensate for the reduced light. A longer exposure lets in more light.

Cool thought. We all need as much light as we can get right now. This thought ties in with an earlier post of mine this morning on the need to linger.

I have noticed more lately when I read, if I linger (reread, think, ask God to speak) I see so much more.

sermonindex Feb 26, 2009


I wanted to shed some light in regards to the[b] "three legged stool plan"[/b]as taught by Roger Oakland on his four DVD's on the "Emerging Church" and end time events, which we are all right in the middle of, as the false church prepares to march into the Tribulation, with Antichrist and the false prophet at the helm.

This is nothing more than an outline, that is still not complete. If anyone would like to finish it, please do so.

[b]The Babylonian System[/b]
1.\tRebellion against God and His Word
2.\tA plan to join together economically
3.\tA plan to join together spiritually
4.\tGod was angered by the plan
5.\tGod stopped the plan


[b]Satan’s Plan for Fallen Man[/b]
1.Convince man not to pay attention to God and His Word
2.Convince man to Pay attention to man and follow man and his methods & movements
3.Man will then eventually seek after the false "god’s" of the earth)


[b]Satan’s Last days plan for man[/b]
1.\tDeceive the World and the Church
2.\tReconstruct the Babylonian plan for man
3.\tBring back mankind together again
4.\tThe god of this world plans to be king
5.\tGlobal political System
6.\tGlobal Economic System


[b]Three Legged Stool Plan
The last days plan that will seduce the world[/b]

This plan is not from God

This plan will be inspired by Satan

This plan will likely be in the name of the Savior, in the name of Christ

This plan will set up the religion of the antichrist.

God will destroy this plan

[b]Four (4) plans by man for the future hope of man—all 3 legged stool plans

#1) United Nations Plan[/b]
Leg 1= global political cooperation
Leg 2= global economic cooperation
Leg 3=global spiritual cooperation

[b]#2)Mother Earth Plan[/b]
Leg 1= global politics
Leg 2= global economics
Leg 3= global spirituality

[b]#3) Vatican Plan[/b]
Leg 1= global political governance
Leg 2= global economic governance
Leg 3= global religious unity in the name of the “Eucharist Christ”

[b]#4) Purpose Driven Plan[/b]
Leg 1= a public sector role
Leg 2= a private sector role
Leg 3= a faith sector role

[b]The faith sector role= the Churches!

Rick Warrens 3 legged stool plan interview with Tim Russert on 12/24/2006[/b]
“A one legged stool will fall over, a two legged stool will fall over, and business and government alone cannot solve these problems. They haven’t or they would have. There is a private sector role, there is a private sector role, and there is a faith sector role. The third leg of the Purpose Driven Stool is the Churches." (The Churches equals the Faith Sector)


Sincerely,

Walter

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White_Stone Feb 26, 2009

Hello Walter,

Thank you for double posting your outline (in this thread and yours). Perhaps it will help some see clearly what I have seen for years. Worldly, physical Churches are part of Satan's plan.

It is good to warn but I feel better when I view God's marvelous plan:

Matthew 22:37-39 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy [b][color=CC3300]heart[/color][/b], and with all thy [b][color=CC3300]soul[/color][/b], and with all thy [b][color=CC3300]mind[/color][/b]. (38) This is the first and great commandment. (39) And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

There is great turmoil all around us now because of the unwinding of the world economy. Most often Countries resort to war when economies fall and the threat of war is great. It helps me to focus on what is Good and Pure - The Word of God. The world will do what it does but I am standing on a Rock that can not be moved.

Your urgency is evident and I am delighted you have eyes to see what is going on. When I first saw it I was outraged and told everyone. Not one person I told would see. If they are going to see, it will come from God. I will continue to speak out if I see an opening but for the most part I try to focus on Him.

Praise Jesus,
white stone

P.S. By the way, did you read the whole piece at the link I gave?

sermonindex Feb 27, 2009


Dear White Stone:

I Have been working on this, filling in the gaps


[b]The Babylonian System-Found in God’s Word (Genesis 11:1-9)[/b]
1.\tRebellion against God and His Word
2.\t2. A plan to join together economically
3.\tA plan to join together spiritually
4.\tGod was anger by the plan
5. God stopped the plan[/b]


[b]Satan’s Plan for Fallen Man[/b]
1.\tConvince man not to pay attention to God and His Word
2.\tPay attention to man and follow man and his methods & movements
3.\tMan will eventually seek after god’s

[b]Satan's three Legged Stool Plan
Satan’s Last days plan for man[/b]

1.\tDeceive the World and the Church
2.\tReconstruct the Babylonian plan for man
3.\tBring back mankind together again
4.\tThe god of this world plans to be king
5.\tGlobal political System
6.\tGlobal Economic System


[b]Three Legged Stool Plan of Satan
The last days plan that will seduce the world[/b]

This plan is not from God
This plan will be inspired by Satan
This plan will likely be in the name of the Savior, in the name of Christ
This plan will set up the religion of the antichrist.
God will destroy this plan

[b]Four (4) plans by man for the future hope of man—all 3 legged stool plans—all inspired by Satan![/b]

[b]United Nations Plan
United Nations Plan, underneath a global flag, a “new world order”[/b]

Leg 1= global political cooperation
Leg 2= global economic cooperation
Leg 3=global spiritual cooperation

[b]Mother Earth Plan- Gaia (mother earth)- “a new look at life on earth”[/b]
Leg 1= global politics
Leg 2= global economics
Leg 3= global spirituality

[b]Vatican Plan
The New World Order and One World religion![/b]

Leg 1= global political governance
Leg 2= global economic governance
Leg 3= global religious unity in the name of the “Eucharist Christ”

While visiting Rome in November of 1996, I took a city tour. One of our stops was St. Peter's Basilica. My guide told me another name for St. Peter's was the “Mother of All Churches.” (Roger Oakland)

[b]FATIMA TO BECOME INTERFAITH SHRINE [/b]
Nov. 1, 2003 http://www.apocalypsesoon.org/world1.html

[b]Delegates attending the Vatican and United Nations (UN) inspired annual interfaith congress "The Future of God", held during October in Fátima, heard how the Shrine is to be developed into a centre where all the religions of the world will gather to pay homage to their various gods. [/b]

The Congress was held in the Paul VI Pastoral Centre and presided over by the Cardinal Patriarch of Lisbon José de Cruz Policarpo. The Shrine's rector, Monsignor Luciano Guerra, told the Congress that Fátima "will change for the better." Addressing Hindu, Muslim, Jewish, Orthodox, Buddhist and African Pagan representatives he stated:[b] "The future of Fátima, or the adoration of God and His mother at this holy Shrine, must pass through the creation of a shrine where different religions can mingle.[/b]

The inter-religious dialogue in Portugal, and in the Catholic Church, is still in an embryonic phase, but the[b] Shrine of Fátima[/b] is not indifferent to this fact and is already open to being a universalistic place of vocation." The Hindu representative Ansshok Ansraj, described how already in the Far East millions of Hindus are getting "positive vibrations" from visiting Marian shrines without endangering their faith. [b]Monsignor Guerra pointed out that the very fact that Fátima is the name of a Muslim and Mohammed's daughter, is indicative that the Shrine must be open to the co-existence of various faiths and beliefs. According to the Monsignor: "Therefore we must assume that it was the will of the Blessed Virgin Mary that this comes about this way." Traditional Catholics opposed to the Congress were described by the Monsignor as "old fashioned, narrow minded, fanatic extremists and provocateurs." [/b]

[b]For the first time in the 86-year history of Fátima all of the Pagan and Christian delegates were invited to participate in the Ecumenical celebrations. One of the principle speakers, the Jesuit theologian Father Jacques Dupuis, was insistent that the religions of the world must unite.[/b] "The religion of the future will be a general converging of religions in a universal Christ that will satisfy all", he said. The Belgium born theologian argued: "The other religious traditions in the world are part of God's plan for humanity and the Holy Spirit is operating and present in Buddhist, Hindu and other sacred writings of Christian and non-Christian faiths as well."

In an impassioned plea he said: [b]"The universality of God's kingdom permits this, and this is nothing more than a diversified form of sharing in the same mystery of salvation. In the end it is hoped that the Christian will become a better Christian and each Hindu a better Hindu."[/b] An official statement put out by the Congress called for a non-proselytising approach by all religions[b]. "No one religion can irradiate another", it said "or strengthen itself by downplaying others and an open dialogue is the way to building bridges and tearing down walls of centuries of hate. What is needed is that each religion be true to its faith integrally and treat each religion on the same footing of equality with no inferior or superiority complexes."[/b] It emphasised that the secret to peace amongst all religions is admitting that contradictions exist between creeds but to concentrate on what unites them as opposed to what separates them. Delegates agreed that religious shrines, including Fátima, should be revamped every 25 years to reflect modern day trends and beliefs. The Shrine of Fátima is about to undergo a complete reconstruction with a new stadium-like basilica being erected close by the existing one built in 1921.

[b]1/6/2007 Pope Benedict[/b] – “The need emerged for a new world order in economis and political spheres, but also and especially in cultural & spiritual spheres, that is, a renewed humanism. The reason that a new social, political & economic order does not work is because there is no spiritual renewal, if we do not find God.”

[b]1/8/2007 Pope Benedict urges todays wisemen to shape the world based on Christ- shape a “new world order” on spiritual values.[/b] Said that [b]wisemen of today[/b] are found in three (3) classes of leaders—Political Authorities; People of intellect and science; the leaders of the world’s faiths.[b] All three categories are important as the church continues its task of transforming the world. Article in Catholicview.com

7/25/2007 Pope Benedict XVI- Catholic News.com
“Creation vs. evolution is an absurdity. Benedict also says humans must listen to the voice of the earth”[/b]

[b]The Purpose Driven Plan[/b]
This is the latest "hope" plan for the earth
1.\tThe plan is being promoted by man
2.\tThe plan includes the P.E.A.C.E. plan
3.\tMany evangelical Christians are enlisting
4.\tThe plan is very ecumenical
5.\tThe plan deals with global economics

[b]Pastor Rick Warren and his 3 legged stool plan
The Purpose Driven Plan[/b]

Leg 1= a public sector role
Leg 2= a private sector role
Leg 3= a faith sector role

The faith sector role= the Churches!

Rick Warren’s 3 legged stool plan interview with Tim Russert on 12/24/2006 “regarding a plan to defeat the planets five (5) giants:
“A one legged stool will fall over, a two legged stool will fall over, and business and government alone cannot solve these problems. They haven’t or the woul’ve. There is a private sector role, there is a private sector role, and there is a faith sector role. The third leg of the Purpose Driven Stool is the Churches. The Churches equals the Faith Sector.

Anyone else want to help with working on this, from the Roger Oakland tapes, that can be found at youtube.com?

Sincerely,

Walter

:-)


White_Stone wrote:
Hello Walter,

Thank you for double posting your outline (in this thread and yours). Perhaps it will help some see clearly what I have seen for years. Worldly, physical Churches are part of Satan's plan.

It is good to warn but I feel better when I view God's marvelous plan:

Matthew 22:37-39 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy [b][color=CC3300]heart[/color][/b], and with all thy [b][color=CC3300]soul[/color][/b], and with all thy [b][color=CC3300]mind[/color][/b]. (38) This is the first and great commandment. (39) And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

There is great turmoil all around us now because of the unwinding of the world economy. Most often Countries resort to war when economies fall and the threat of war is great. It helps me to focus on what is Good and Pure - The Word of God. The world will do what it does but I am standing on a Rock that can not be moved.

Your urgency is evident and I am delighted you have eyes to see what is going on. When I first saw it I was outraged and told everyone. Not one person I told would see. If they are going to see, it will come from God. I will continue to speak out if I see an opening but for the most part I try to focus on Him.

Praise Jesus,
white stone

P.S. By the way, did you read the whole piece at the link I gave?

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