Catholic One World Religion?

sermonindex Mar 9, 2009

This morning I turned on the Catholic Channel, EWTN on cable T.V. From time to time I like to see how the progression of the ~~[b]~~VATICAN PLAN[/b] is in regards to ~~[b]~~The New World Order and the One World religion[/b] and see how close we are to Armageddon.

~~[url=http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article5705331.ece]~~Vatican buries the Hatchet with Charles Darwin[/url]

One of the key announcements was that this past week the ~~[b]~~Vatican sponsored the Darwin anniversary conference[/b]
Posted March 3, 2009 20:26:00
Updated March 3, 2009 21:35:00

The Vatican is sponsoring a five-day conference to mark the 150th anniversary of the publication of Charles Darwin's Origin of the Species.
The subject is the compatibility of evolution and creation.

It is one of two separate international academic conferences being sponsored by the Vatican this year.

They aim to re-examine the work of scientific thinkers whose revolutionary ideas challenged religious belief.

Christian churches were long hostile to Darwin because his theory conflicted with the literal biblical account of creation.

But the Catholic Church never condemned him, with Pope John Paul II saying evolution was "more than a hypothesis".
-\tBBC

This is another link that will goes into detail about the Vatican embracing Darwinism:
~~[b]~~Vatican buries the hatchet with Charles Darwin[/b]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article5705331.ece

~~[b]~~They also have a “Welcome Home” segment, announcing prominent people in the world who have “COME BACK HOME TO CATHOLOCISM”. [/b]

~~[b]~~Newt Gingrich is one of those people that was named, that is embracing Catholocism and “coming home to the true church”.[/b]

~~[url=http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctpolitics/2009/03/gingrich_to_con.html]~~Newt Gingrich[/url]

~~[b]~~The New World Order, and the One World Religion gets closer to us by the day.
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Sincerely,

Walter

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White_Stone Mar 9, 2009

The true church is the Holy Catholic Church BUT there is no prefix - 'Roman' is of the world.

You are right, it is not long.

Watch and pray, night and day. As we are digging in the future garden I often look up and picture His return. Glorious sight for Saints but how terrible it will be for sinners.

white stone

M

MaryJane Mar 9, 2009

Greetings White_Stone

You wrote:The true church is the Holy Catholic Church BUT there is no prefix - 'Roman' is of the world.

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Found this to be very confusing, can you explain what you mean by the true church is the Holy Catholic Church?

Thanks and God Bless
MJ

sermonindex Mar 9, 2009

Walter,

There is a strong protestant/Catholic unity movement going on locally here in Detroit that is leading to a new universalism mindset. The greatest proponents are the emergent church people, and they have crept in unaware to our lukewarm evangelical churches because the pastors are to busy playing games and building their empires to notice. There are Assembly of God "churches" now doing U2 Eucherist,where they listen to songs like "I still haven't found what I'm looking for" while they make a mockery out of the Lord's supper...

sermonindex Mar 9, 2009

There are Assembly of God "churches" now doing U2 Eucherist,where they listen to songs like "I still haven't found what I'm looking for" while they make a mockery out of the Lord's supper...

I dont know about these yo-yo's, but I found what I was looking for!

In the past I've been scolded some for saying that it is my firm conviction that the Roman Catholic Church is the "whore" mentioned in Revelation 17. What we see happening now is even further confirmation that this is, in fact, true.

Revelation 17 even gives the geographic location of the great whore... and it is the city of Rome. Whats in Rome? The Vatican.

Krispy

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White_Stone Mar 9, 2009

cath⋅o⋅lic –adjective
1. \tbroad or wide-ranging in tastes, interests, or the like; having sympathies with all; broad-minded; liberal.
2. \tuniversal in extent; involving all; of interest to all.
3. \tpertaining to the whole Christian body or church.

~~[url=http://www.theinvisiblechurch.ca/fundamentally/fund3/Fundc23.html]~~The True Church[/url]

Excerpt: This is the only Church which is truly catholic. It is not the Church of any one nation or people; its members are to be found in every part of the world where the Gospel is received and believed. It is not confined within the limits of any one country, or pent-up within the pale of any particular forms or outward government. In it there is no difference between Jew and Greek, black man and white, Episcopalian and Presbyterian-but faith in Christ is all. Its members will be gathered from north, and south, and east, and west, in the last day, and will be of every name and tongue-but all one in Jesus Christ.

I was NOT speaking of the Roman Catholic Church. That is a corrupted imitation.

Kind regards,
white stone

P.S. Krispy, we have always thought it pointed towards Rome, too.

sermonindex Mar 11, 2009

Amen Brother Jim. Recently reading this -

http://www.cacradicalgrace.org/conferences/emer/

link found here -

http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/

C

ccchhhrrriiisss Mar 11, 2009

Hi Jim...

There are Assembly of God "churches" now doing U2 Eucherist,where they listen to songs like "I still haven't found what I'm looking for" while they make a mockery out of the Lord's supper...

Are you sure that they were Assembly of God churches? I have read articles about Episcopal churches doing the "U2" thing. I don't know of any Assembly of God church that would ever approve of such a thing -- and the fellowship itself would likely frown upon such a thing. If so, perhaps someone should tell the denomination's leaders about such a ridiculous practice.

:-(

T

theopenlife Mar 12, 2009

White_Stone, your response about Holy Catholic Church was excellent.

Another explanation is this:

There is only one true body of Christ, known by Him to be regenerated, and all of this body is set apart by grace from the world through justification, and are being sanctified in the faith of Christ out of practiced sin, which is a two-fold holiness.

sermonindex Mar 12, 2009

Are you sure that they were Assembly of God churches? I have read articles about Episcopal churches doing the "U2" thing. I don't know of any Assembly of God church that would ever approve of such a thing -- and the fellowship itself would likely frown upon such a thing. If so, perhaps someone should tell the denomination's leaders about such a ridiculous practice.

Unfortunately it is a local AOG church plant in the metro Detroit area (that I have personally vistied). I have talked to the pastor a few times including once about U2 specifically and how they were universalists. I was told that I was narrow minded or something to that effect...

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rreighe Mar 13, 2009

wait are you talking about all Assembly of God churches? or just the ones around you? i have been going to an assembly of God church lately and i feel like i have been able to connect with God better by the way the preach. they dont have pre-written prayers at the church i have been going to. i talked with the pastors and they seem real biblical and spiritual. they say that we need to focus on Jesus and teach us how to repent.

the church in my city that i know of that has been falling away is a luthern church. (italics are my guess) ~~[i]~~maybe it isn't a whole denomination at large in a way that is falling but individual churches... in some cases. or most of a denomination but a few churches here and there keep the holy spirit within and stay Godly.[/i] i dont know for sure.

C

ccchhhrrriiisss Mar 13, 2009

Hi rreighe...

Brother Jim is speaking about an Assemblies of God church in the Detroit area. Most AG churches that I have attended are very different...even with those that are achieving "mega" church status. The Assemblies of God fellowship is far from perfect...and there is a shifting dichotomy in regard to the more conservative, holiness driving churches in the fellowship and the more modern churches that seem to strive to be more "appealing" to the people of this world.

My wife and I recently began attending a small Assembly of God church in the San Francisco Bay area. We didn't even know that it was an AG congregation...because nothing seemed to indicate it as such. It is small (less than 100) but has a great pastor with a gift of teaching. We have been blessed greatly.

It is sad that there might be some churches within this fellowship that would actually resort to something so ridiculous and unholy. Yet this is becoming a pattern in modern churches. Why? Perhaps the pastors just don't know the Lord well enough...that they would offer a sacrifice of this world (like U2 songs) as worship. I suppose that we should be close enough to Christ that, when we are in intimacy with Him, we would know His heart.

We need revival. The conditions are dark...but the fields are indeed white.

sermonindex Mar 13, 2009

Hi rreighe...
Brother Jim is speaking about an Assemblies of God church in the Detroit area.

Thanks Chris, yes I was speaking only of a specific church here in Detroit and the local churches in this area as a generality. Sorry for the confusion rreighe. If you have found a place where the word of God is taught faithfully and the body of Christ is being built up rather then having one man usurp the Holy Spirit's control and authority then praise God.

In Christ - Jim

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wayneman Mar 13, 2009

ccchhhrrriiisss wrote:
Hi rreighe...
Brother Jim is speaking about an Assemblies of God church in the Detroit area. Most AG churches that I have attended are very different...even with those that are achieving "mega" church status. The Assemblies of God fellowship is far from perfect...and there is a shifting dichotomy in regard to the more conservative, holiness driving churches in the fellowship and the more modern churches that seem to strive to be more "appealing" to the people of this world.

That has been my experience with AG churches, too. Some, like Times Square Church, are rock-solid; others have abandoned Pentecost in favor of the McChurch Model.

When I was living in Southern California there was an AG megachurch famous for its spectacular Christmas cantatas. One year ('91, I think) they planned an especially magnificent Yuletide extravaganza. At the crescendo of the "Living Christmas Tree" performance, an angel was to soar over the congregation and alight gracefully atop the Tree! Unable to secure the services of an angel, the organizers had an FX company string a complex network of cables across the sanctuary and hired a stuntman to do the job. It went off well in rehearsal, but on opening night, the cable apparatus went haywire and the angel jerked to a halt in mid-flight and started spinning in circles, slowly at first, but faster and faster until he was whirling at an alarming rate! The angel started screaming and cursing, then vomited on the congregation. The Living Christmas Tree "bulbs" kept singing (albeit with dismayed countenances) as the multitude stampeded out the door.

Surely a picture-parable for the whole "Church Growth" movement.

sermonindex Mar 13, 2009

While I do not agree with all AOG doctrine, the AOG churches and pastors I know are very good... and I know that this U2 thing must be an isolated case.

Krispy

R

rreighe Mar 13, 2009

ok what is up with the "u2" stuff? what is that?

this is getting very confussing very fast. i'm trying to keep up but yeah... hmm..

in the name the world will one day love to say;
christ.
--allan