Is Christ's Blood different than my blood?

[b]THE CHEMISTRY OF THE BLOOD[/b]

Jesus Sinless

The Bible teaches in addition that Jesus was a sinless man. Whereas all men from Adam to this day are born with Adam’s sinful nature and therefore are subject to the curse and eternal death, the Man Jesus was without sin and therefore deathless, until He took the sin of others upon Himself and died their death.

God has made of one blood all the nations of the earth. Even though Jesus, therefore, received His flesh, His body from a sinful race. He could still be sinless as long as sinful blood was not in His body. God provided a way whereby Jesus could be perfectly human according to the flesh and yet not have the blood of sinful humanity. That was the problem solved by the virgin birth.

[b]Origin of the Blood[/b]

It is understood by Doctors that the blood which flows in an unborn babe’s arteries and veins is not derived from the mother but is produced within the body of the fetus. It is only after the sperm has entered the ovum and a fetus begins to develop that blood appears. As a very simple illustration of this, think of the egg of a hen. An unfertilized egg is simply an ovum on a much larger scale than the human ovum. You may incubate this unfertilized hen’s egg, but it will never develop. It will dry up completely but no chick will result. But let that egg be fertilized by the introduction of the male sperm and incubation will bring to light the presence of live in an embryo. After a few hours it visibly develops. In a little while red streaks occur, denoting the presence of blood. And life is in the blood according to Scripture, for Moses says:

[b]For the life of the flesh is in the blood (Leviticus 1 7:11)

For it is the life of all flesh; the blood of it is for the life thereof
(Leviticus 17:14)

Mother’s Blood Separate[/b]

It is unnecessary that a single drop of blood be given to the developing embryo in the womb of the mother. Such is the case according to scientists. The mother provides the fetus with the nutritive elements for the building of that little body in the secret of her womb, but all the blood which forms in it is formed in the embryo itself. From the time of conception to the time of birth of the infant not one single drop of blood ever passes from mother to child. The placenta, that mass of temporary tissue known better as “afterbirth”, forming the link between mother and child, is so constructed that although all the soluble nutritive elements such as proteins, fats, carbohydrates, salts, minerals and even antibodies pass freely from mother to child and the waster products of the child’s metabolism are passed back to the mother’s circulation, no actual interchange of a single drop of blood ever occurs normally. All the blood which is in that child is produced within the child itself. The mother contributes no blood at all.

[b]God’s Wonderful Provision[/b]

How wonderfully God prepared for the virgin birth of His Son. When He created woman He made her so that no blood would be able to pass from her to her offspring. In order to produce a sinless man who would yet be the son of Adam, God provided a way whereby that man would have a human body derived from Adam but have blood from a separate source. Some have tried to answer the question, “How could He be sinless & yet born of woman?” by making Mary the “Immaculate Virgin”. That however, does not answer the question of how Jesus was sinless.

It is plainly taught in Scripture that Jesus partook of human flesh without partaking of the effect of Adam’s blood. In Hebrews 2:14 we read:

[b]Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood he also himself likewise took part of the same…..

You will notice that the “children” that is, the human children, are said to be partakers of flesh and blood, and then, speaking of Jesus, this verse says that He himself likewise took part of the same. The word “took part” as applying to Christ is an entirely different word from “partakers” as applied to the children. In the margin of my bible, I read that the word translated, “took part” implies “taking part in something outside one’s self.” The Greek word for partakers if KOYNONEHO and means “to share fully,” so that all of Adam’s children share fully in Adam’s flesh and blood. When we read that Jesus “took part of the same” the word METECHO which means “to take part but not all.” The children take both flesh and blood of Adam but Christ took only part, that is, the flesh part, whereas the blood was the result of supernatural conception. [/b]

Jesus was a perfect human being after the flesh. He was of the seed of David according to the flesh, but blood is that part of a man which is the divine addition. In the creation of man, Adam’s body was made from the dust of the earth, but God breathed into his nostrils the breath of life. Since life is in the blood, this act resulted in the formation of blood in Adam’s body, but the first Adam’s blood was corrupted and sin is in all mankind since God hath made of one blood all nations. In the last Adam and the second man, new and divine and sinless blood was produced in a body that was NOT the seed of Adam and by this resulted in the production of:

[b]Divine Blood[/b]

Conception by the Holy Ghost was the only way the virgin birth could be accomplished. Mary nourished the body of Jesus and He became the seed of David according to the flesh. The Holy Spirit contributed the blood of Jesus. It is sinless blood. It is divine blood. It is precious blood, for there has never been any other like it. It is:

[b]Innocent Blood[/b]

I have betrayed the innocent blood, Judas confessed in Matthew 27:4.[/b] Our Lord was innocent. He became like unto us in all things – sin only excepted; like unto us with one exception – instead of being conceived by a human father, He was conceived by a divine father. As a result, biologically, He had divine blood, sinless blood. Because this blood is sinless it is:

[b]Incorruptible Blood[/b]

Sin made human blood corruptible. Soon after death decay sets in, and it begins in the blood. That is why meat must be drained well of its blood. That is why embalmers place the embalming fluid in the blood. David said that Jesus’ body should not see corruption. Though He was dead three days and three nights, His body did not corrupt. Because He was sinless they could not put Him to death but instead He laid down His life voluntarily that He might take it up again. He arose by His own power, because death had no claim on Him except the claim of other’s sin, and when that was paid –

Death cannot keep his prey-
Jesus, my Savior;
He tore the bars away –
Jesus, my Lord.
Up from the grave he arose,
With a mighty triumph o’er His foes.

Sinner, have you received this Savior and have you been washed in His Precious Blood? If not, you are still under the curse and the awful sentence of death. Why not accept Him today and hear Him as He says:

God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died For us. Much more then, being now justified by His blood, we shall be saved from Wrath through Him (Romans 5:8,9)

[b]Jesus was the Messiah though the flesh of the line of Mary, and not the blood of the line of Mary. He was the perfect human, after the flesh of Mary, NOT THE BLOOD OF MARY.[/b]

Sincerely,

Walter

"He learned obedience by what HE suffered"

"Tempted in all manners such as we, but without sin"

This teaching of "The Divine Blood" removes the Free-Will of Jesus and then we cannot use HIM as our example - because then we can say - "Of course I cannot live or be as HE was - HE had divine blood and I don't"

Regardless of who wrote it and I do respect Brother DeHaan - Jesus was as human in every respect as we are. He "emptied Himself" so as to be our example.
There is no example that HE had it "all over us" because HE was more advantaged than we'll ever be ... that would contradict far too many Scriptures.

It also contributes to "modern genetics theories" that there are certain "sins" that are inherent in a person's blood - which does away with freewill as well.

Brother Walter, before I go off-line for now - I prayed my answer didn't upset you.

I have a tendency to just address the text and try to keep the member out of it for a reason -- that it isn't them who wrote these things or other things on other threads. I normally address the Author - because the Forum Member is not the author that I may not agree with and sometimes will do that, even when I do agree with the Author that a Member quotes.

I felt to come back to this thread to explain further, because this teaching has been around a long time and I've felt to give Brother DeHaan the benefit of the doubt by the date [1943] of this article.
That was a very sensitive time in the world's history, when it came to "blood types" - as we saw in Germany back then, sorrowfully, but coicidently - now again since the genome code was opened up and some supposed "blood typing the RH factor of the blood on the shroud" has become another craze and the myth that some hold to of "The Royal Bloodline [type]", Etc.

Jesus is called the last Adam, because Adam was born "innocent - though with a freewill". Jesus also was born "innocent" [as the Lamb of GOD] because He was born of the Spirit but also with freewill.

He came to make a way out for us from what Adam had done. The mystery is not in the "blood" but in HIS Obedience, even to the Cross - as the Sacrificial Lamb. Yes, HE was/is GOD, but while in the flesh - HE took our form 100% and did not speak or work "without the Father, through the Spirit". He never acted on HIS own. He laid aside His Deity and again, became our example - of how to walk totally dependent on the Father - to teach us to not walk on our own.

The Blood type comes from 'both' mother and father. It is formed in "the marrow of the bones". That is why today, tests can be run to find both mother and father of a child - matching both - whereas in 1943 for Brother DeHann, this genetic testing was not available - though testing blood types was. But he should have known that the blood is formed in the marrow of the bones - which is from both parents.

The other important thing about the blood of Jesus, Who is to one Day sit on David’s throne (Luke 1:32-33), had He been begotten by Mary’s husband Joseph, who was of the line of Jeconiah (Matthew 1:12,16), it would have contradicted this divine prediction but the physical descent of Jesus from David came through Mary, whose genealogy is traced to David through Nathan rather than through Solomon (cp. Luke 3:31 with Matthew 1:17).

Jesus came through the line of Mary, so that He fulfilled the OT prophecies of coming from David’s blood line. If Jesus’ blood is “God’s blood”, then Jesus could not be the Messiah prophesied in the O.T., because He could not have fulfilled those prophecies.

Catholicism and others believe this Divine blood theory and others like it - such as "Claiming the blood" in spiritual warfare and other excesses.

These others may explain better & further -

http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/articles/blood.htm

http://home.sprynet.com/~eagreen/blood.html

http://www.christinyou.net/pages/bloodofchrist.html

Romans 8:29

Thank you for the information about today's science. What we are talking about is much more than a matter of "science", it is a matter of Scripture.

[b]However, within Him (Jesus Christ) was the fullness of the Godhead, bodily. (Col 2:9)--that is something you and I definitely lack![/b]

He acted through the power of the Holy Spirit, not His own God power that he laid aside. He had the Holy Spirit [b]without measure,[/b] we (Christian believers) have the Holy Spirit [b] with measure.[/b]

34. For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. (John 3:34)

[b]He is our example, but we can never be like Him until the rapture, when we get rid of these bodies of flesh and blood. [/b]

50. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.(1 Cor 15:50)

However, He who was sinless took on the sin of mankind, to take care of the sin problem forever.

[b]He was tempted as we are, but never ONCE sinned, by thought or deed. He never had one thought of lust, ever. Never one thought of anger at His own brothers or sisters, ever.[/b]

Christ is the "Seed of the Woman" as prophesized in Genesis 3:15.

Women do not have seed, men are the ones that have seed. Christ's seed was supernatural seed, supplied by the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ is the "Last Adam", and we will not be like Him until the rapture.

[b]No matter how long we live down here on this earth, we will never be able to claim that we had one sinless 24 hour day on this planet. Only Jesus Christ can make this claim, and He was sinless His entire lifetime, even as a baby![/b]

We humans (all people, whether Christian or not) have all inherited the polluted blood of Adam. Eventhough we are saved, Adam's blood still flows through our veins. We still have thoughts of lust and adultery, eventhough we don't act them out. We all have thoughts of murder, eventhough all we do is get angry with our brother. Jesus did not have this problem, ever.

Not until the recurrection will we be like Him, will we be like Jesus Christ, when we receive new bodies of[b] flesh and bone[/b], in a new resurrected body just like the one that Christ has.

Luke 24:39-43
39. Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not [b]flesh and bones,[/b] as ye see me have.
40. And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet. 41. And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42. And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. 43. And he took it, and did eat before them.

[b]To be "saved" requires first "repentance", and then "belief" in Jesus Christ and the Work that He performed on the cross. Once we are saved, we are not clones of Jesus Christ, that never sin by thought or deed. Our santification requires continous prayer for repentance of our daily/hourly sin that we commit by thought or deed, and then by “belief” in Jesus as our Lord and Savior, and our hope of eternal glory. We Christians are nothing more than mud balls, until the rapture.[/b]

Sincerely,

Walter

Jesus-is-GOD wrote:
Brother Walter, before I go off-line for now - I prayed my answer didn't upset you.

I have a tendency to just address the text and try to keep the member out of it for a reason -- that it isn't them who wrote these things or other things on other threads. I normally address the Author - because the Forum Member is not the author that I may not agree with and sometimes will do that, even when I do agree with the Author that a Member quotes.

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Please, ChrisJd, reply with Scripture. Also, when did you get elevated to the position of Moderator on Sermonindex?

The Bible is clear, our position in Christ is imputed to us. We have the down payment, the Holy Ghost, that lives within our hearts, but we don't get the whole deal until the rapture.

What we see going on in the body of Christ today is nothing more than a misunderstanding of who and what the Christian believer is, and who and what God is.

We can do nothing on our own, yet today many Christians are puffed up, feeding their flesh, involved with prosperity error, Dominion Theology error, Blab & Grab it-name it & claim it error, and all types of other error-- error by worshipping through the flesh---and never ending Doctrinal error.

The reason? Today our Churches have told us that there are such people as "carnal christians", who eventhough they willfully sin after they have been "saved", they are on their way to heaven. This abomination has been taught as [b]doctrine[/b] for many years.

Paul Washer addresses these issues.[b][color=990000] Christians today are deceived when they think that they no longer need to be on their knees, in repentence and brokeness, and in prayer for their sin, after they have once been "saved", after they once received their "flu shot" of salvation.[/color][/b]

[b]The body of Christ today is 10 million miles long and 1 1/2 inches deep.[/b]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ1BaClAQMg&feature=related]Paul Washer's thoughts on True Repentance & Justification[/url]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBdoS-gkqcA&feature=related]What does it mean to be Holy?[/url]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=WBl568p7aSY]Is there such a thing as a Carnal Christian?[/url]

Sincerely,

Walter

ChrisJD wrote:
Waltern,

I would like to urge you to consider the controversy that you have created multiple times since you have participated on these forums and to ask yourself why you continue to do this.

No matter how long we live down here on this earth, we will never be able to claim that we had one sinless 24 hour day on this planet.

These are your words and not Gods. You have multiple times interjected controversial topics along with your own opinons.

I want to urge you to take heed to yourself.

To Christinyou:

Here we are again, at opposite ends of the issue-- again!

Following is a sermon by Paul Washer that assures the believer that there is only one man that had no sin, and that is Christ Jesus. As Christian believers, our sins are forgiven, past present and future. However, 1st John takes us to a more perfect understanding of what the saved Christian is:

“If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.”— (1 John 1:8)

[url=http://media.sermonindex.net/14/SID14097.mp3]Paul Washer --Biblical Assurance part 2[/url]

Without the confession of our sin to God, in the life of the believer,[b] that continues after salvation,[/b] God has nothing to do with that person, and no relationship with them. They are the ones that Christ will say "And then will I profess unto them,[b] I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.[/b] Matthew 7:23

I challenge you to listen to the above sermon in it's entirety, Christinyou! It is addressed to you and your 3 "friends" (who usually always post in agreement with each other that the Christian believer has no sin to confess).

Sincerely,

Walter

Christinyou wrote:
Quote:

"""The Blood type comes from 'both' mother and father. It is formed in "the marrow of the bones". That is why today, tests can be run to find both mother and father of a child - matching both - whereas in 1943 for Brother DeHann, this genetic testing was not available - though testing blood types was. But he should have known that the blood is formed in the marrow of the bones - which is from both parents."""

Then the blood of Jesus Christ was both, all man through Mary and all God through God our Father.

By faith our Spirit is now the Spirit of Christ, born again of our Father's incorruptable Seed of the Word, who is Christ, and by the Holy Spirit, in Christ by being born again, without which no man can see the kingdom of God, for flesh and the blood of Adam cannot enter the Kingdom of God. We will have a new body like the body of Jesus Christ which will be flesh and bone, for the Blood of Jesus Christ was all shed for us, and Jesus Himself said, Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. If Christ was resurrected with a body like ours, He would have to have the blood of the Father in His veins, not mans blood, refilled in His veins for all His blood was shed on the Cross and it had already separated to blood and water, the complete and final sign of death and this blood being the only blood that could take away the sin of the world, for the blood of man cannot enter the kingdom of God or take away sin, even the blood of all the animals sacrificed could not save from sin, only cover sin in the eyes of God, no new nature, by faith through Grace from the precious Blood of Christ shed for the whole world and to take away sin forever, once, for those that believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

In Christ: Phillip

No remarks about the video of Paul Washer? It is almost an hour long. Since your post came minutes after my post, I know that you did not even listen to it.

You're analysis of what Washer has to say would be a very interesting post. I'm sure you would try to create wiggle room, but the Word of God allows none, and neither does Paul Washer!

This is the link, if God puts it on your heart to study:

[url=http://media.sermonindex.net/14/SID14097.mp3]Paul Washer--Biblical Assurance part 2[/url]

Sincerely,

Walter

Christinyou wrote:
How do we reconcile these passages in 1 John?

1 John 2:1-3 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

And;

1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
1Jo 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1Jo 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
1Jo 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
1Jo 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
1Jo 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

The first is; "if any man sin"
The second is; "whosoever is born of God"

The difference is the Christ in us cannot sin and He is who we are, "born of God" cannot sin, for His Seed remaineth in us. That is the Seed of Christ that cannot sin. But, we have an Advocate with the Father, "if any man sin", and in confession and, "cleansed from all unrighteousness", God is faithful and just to forgive us our sin and cleanse us from all unrighteousness, by the Christ that is in us.

So, delivered, already, cannot comit sin, being delivered, if we sin, confession, and will yet be delivered, the seed planted in the ground and in resurrection raised from death unto life in Christ Jesus.

2 Corinthians 1:10 Who delivered us from so great a death, and doth deliver: in whom we trust that He will yet deliver us;

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

If a man says he has no sin or has not sinned, He is a liar and the truth is not in him

In Christ: Phillip

Brother Philip, forgive me for using "and" instead of "or" in that one sentence.

Jesus had to have his mother's blood type because HE had to be from the Davidic lineage.

This thread did start with a "scientific" post, but I had no idea where it was leading up to.

But back to the blood --- I have my Father's blood type but my Father had his mother's blood type.

My post should have read, the mother's or the father's.

I assumed this was a thread about "Divine Blood" and that is what I was posting to.

I'm sorry Walter that you don't see all that HE died for - for us - though I ended my post with Romans 8:29 .

Jesus' example to us was to not lean on our own understanding or anything from ourselves, as HE didn't - but as it is repeatedly written - HE said, 'the words that I speak and the works do not come from Me but from The Father' --- that is what Romans 8 is pointing us to "walk in".

Have you been hurt by someone's "sinless perfection" doctrine?
I don't believe in sinless perfection but I do see where the "potential" to not sin is very much provided for us.

I wish you Peace, from my heart.

To christinyou:

Isn't that strange! I tried them after I posted them, and just now tried both posts again, and they both work! The MP3's are on the sermonindex site.

You will find the 2nd through the 5 th mp3's following, that are all dedicated to you, and your 3 friends. Or, is it 4 friends now, I.m not sure:

http://media.sermonindex.net/14/SID14097.mp3
2n message- Biblical Assurance

http://media.sermonindex.net/14/SID14098.mp3
3rd message- Biblical Assurance

http://media.sermonindex.net/14/SID14098.mp3
4th message- Biblical Assurance

http://media.sermonindex.net/14/SID14101.mp3
5th message-- Biblical Assurance

They all work, just like my other posts do and did.

Sincerely,

Walter

Christinyou wrote:
Sorry Waltern, but the Ip address sends and error report, only.

In Christ: Phillip

Have you been hurt by someone's "sinless perfection" doctrine?
I don't believe in sinless perfection but I do see where the "potential" to not sin is very much provided for us.

I do agree brother that we can and MUST walk in a pure conscience before the Lord with victory over known sin. Yet many of the varieties of the "sinless perfection" doctrine that are passed around today do more to hurt the cause of "holiness onto the Lord" then cheap grace ever could.

Peter said that, there is a way to 'wrest/pervert the Scriptures to our own destruction' - either way - legalism, sinless-perfection or easy-grace.

A human who chooses to not be victorious in Christ - would love any easy way out.

Rather than read ALL of Romans 8 - they'd love to just quote it in part - "no condemnation" - period and go along in the flesh, doing what they "think" is right and/or wrong and just confessing it over and over and over again.

Romans 8 is not saying that that is how we have to live.

It says plainly - that there is no condemnation [i]to them which are IN Christ Jesus, who walk NOT after the flesh, but after The Spirit ... and then continues on to expand on that "walk".

It is not anything complicated. I posted Romans 8 and showed Jesus' earthly life as our Example.

HE did not have it Over us - HE was 'our' Example of how to "do this walk."

Please - Count how many times Jesus said "My Father".
See how many times that HE said, "the words that I speak are not mine own but ...... "
And - "the works that I do are not mine but ......"
Look and see how many times it says that Jesus "looked up" into Heaven to the Father.
Total dependency on The Father - through The Spirit - as a little child.
Asking Father what to do, say, think and so forth.

With us, many or most times, He'll point us to something from His Word --- but it's just the question of 'taking that minute' to look-up in spirit and ask.

That's it!

Setting our minds on things above --- seated in Heavenly Places --- praying without ceasing --- Knowing, hearing and following The Shepherd's Voice so that we won't follow another --- as helpless little children or dumb sheep --- Looking Up --- having our minds washed by the cleansing of The WORD --- Trusting in the LORD with all of our hearts and leaning not unto our own understanding and in ALL of our ways, acknowledging HIM, so that HE shall direct our paths ... knowing that ALL things are working together to conform us into HIS Image ... not by our works but by that dependence of looking up in constant prayer to HIM by HIS Spirit to guide, teach, lead, fill us with HIS WORD ......

[b]Total utter child-like Dependence which is "Active Continuous Faith in HIM"[/b] and not upon ourselves to "perform" but to "be led" and filled with the mind of Christ in and by His Word and John 16:13-14.

Like a little child - leaning, listening, filled with His Word and obeying what we hear or read.

Eating The WORD of GOD and full dependence on HIS John 10 Voice by HIS John 16:13 Spirit.

Then HE gets all the Glory and our minds are so full of HIM, there will be less time to allow temptations to make a nest in our heads.

Remembering that "sin" is just missing the mark of HIS IMAGE and not just immoral acts.

It's The Image of The Son that The Father had planned through the First born.

Not humans constantly falling until they're bruised enough from each "sin" to finally stop that one "sin" --- one "sin" at a time.

I don't find this "keep trying and failing" walk in HIS WORD --- I see HIM as our Only Example of total dependency.
According to Romans 8 and the whole of the N.T. - there's not a mention of boasting nor constant failing.

He's given us "HIS faith" - we have the GOD given potential to be those called the Overcomers.

Not by might - not by power - but by His Spirit - 'through' [1 John 4:9] our child-like looking up in constant dependence on HIM - as Jesus did while here in human flesh, as we are.
Filled with HIS WORD and HIS SPIRIT - more than conquerors [i]through[/i] Him that loves us.
The goal set before us is being in that constant communion 'more and more' - taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ - looking up and eating His Word.

It's not a mystery of "how to walk in the Spirit" - it's just our self-reliance that swings us into either legalism or easy-grace.

"Looking up" as Jesus constantly did - as a son looks onto his father - for guidance and to his father's words is not "works" - it's merely childlike or sheep-like Dependence.

The strife of Cain against Abel continues on -- though to follow HIS Example is so plainly written out for us about "dependence" -- but if we continue on being ignorant of HIS Dependent Example & keep on doing it our way [taking the credit [b]or[/b] the condemnation we feel] - we [i]will[/i] lose our Love.

1 John 4:17
Herein is our Love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as HE is, so are we in this world.

Know ye that the LORD He is God: it is He that hath made us, and not we ourselves; we are His people, and the sheep of His pasture.

So we thy people and sheep of Thy pasture will give Thee Thanks for ever: we will shew forth Thy praise to all generations. Amen! To Thy Glory.