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ginnyrose Mar 28, 2009

Many of us who understand how politics 'seem' to work in the USA are very alarmed with the election of Barack Obama to the presidency. And his recent decisions seem to prove that our fears are not without merit and if anything it could be a whole lot worse.

As we perceive what the future may hold fear grips us and we wonder how we should prepare for the future, to ride out the apparent inevitable. We do want to be wise and learn from history, do we not? Lots of uncertainty. And if you are a parent with young children the situation becomes more serious then a mere concern.

I am almost 62 years old and I can remember well political events from way back - the first one I remember is when I heard the adults discuss a war which I know know must have been the Korean War. I have always taken a keen interest in current events as pertains to the USA government. I love our country. It is a beautiful piece of landscape - great diversity here. The sun comes up mornings, shines and by evening it goes down; night time falls and all the sounds of night awaken. Beautiful: What cannot be seen. just might be heard. God has made a wonderful, beautiful world. And I love it which means that when I hear of the evil running rampant, I get discouraged. However.....

This week the Lord reminded me of a Scripture in Isaiah 8:12-14: "You are not to say "It is a conspiracy!" In regard to all that this people call a conspiracy, And you are not to fear what they fear or be in dread of it. It is the LORD of Hosts whom you should regard as holy, and He shall be your fear, and he shall be your dread. Then He shall become a sanctuary.." NASB

I was so blessed when I studied these verses again! And I know for a fact they are true! When Dr. Malcolm Field told me that our daughter is going to die in a few weeks, I cried hard for two days. I knew I would never survive until I had it out with Him. So one evening, after putting our granddaughter to bed, I spent a lot of time in the WORD, praying about this matter. Peace came to me and it was laid on my heart to live one day at a time; and if the LORD would take her (Which he did 9 1/2 months later) He will be there to strengthen me. But in the meantime, I am to live life to the full, make life happen and enjoy life! So I did and it happened just like I expected.

Now having experienced the faithfulness of God in a family situation, I just know the message of God is still the same: trust me! Do not fear man! (You know fear manipulates people, whatever it be, hence the act of fear is a serious one.) It appears to me that God has put us on a fast track to learn trust, faith, so how well are we learning?

Just thought I would share what is on my heart, how the Lord has been dealing with me on this issue...Hope it may help one person..

Blessings,
ginnyrose

sermonindex Mar 28, 2009

Amen sister,

I feel there are some things also in brother Zacs message here that ring true with what you said:

[b]{sermonindex.net newsletter} A WORD IN RECESSION BY ZAC POONEN[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=27834&forum=16&0

sermonindex Mar 28, 2009

Hi sister Ginnyrose

With what you shared in mind, I have pasted below what the Lord laid on my heart last week, I posted it on SI under another title, but it is the same vein as what you are saying.........

"Many people are fearful when they hear the likes of brother David Wilkerson talk about imminent judgement or wrath or trial and tribulation. Yet to the saints of God, who would be priveledged to be here when He comes in all His glory, there will be no room for fear.

Let me just say that everything is under the control of God. The Lord Jesus is on His throne, and the Holy Spirit is about His work. For God so loved this world that He sent His only Son. Praise Jesus. Greater is He than is within me, than He that is in the world. We know for a fact that it is not by might, nor by power, but by His Spirit and it is the Lord that says this. It started in love and it will end in love. Nothing can seperate us from this love, for this love holds all that exists in place. Every planet, every star, every solar system hangs in place because God exists and holds it all in the palm of His hand.

It does not contain Him, He contains it. The enemy of this world, the one who holds sway over the peoples of the earth, is a small thing to my God. Let the people of God stand in the power of His love. The kind of power that cries out “Forgive them Father for they know not what they do.” That same love that empowered the likes of sister Corrie Ten Boom to love and forgive Nazi jailers. This is the victory, this is what Calvary enabled the followers of the most High Son of God to overcome, they overcame hatred by the Love of God. The chain was broken and for that, the enemy has no reply. The enemy falls to defeat on the bloody battle ground of Calvary. For if He loved not HIs life , even unto death, then we too. What is coming soon is glorious. The saints of God will , if the Lord does not tarry, be priveledged to be , perhaps, that generation that sees Him come in the clouds in all His glory and every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father"………Frank


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MaryJane Mar 28, 2009

Greetings ginnyrose
Thank you so much sister for posting this. It really meant a lot to me. I know that what you wrote here really helped me with some of the things that have been on my mind and heart.

God Bless
Maryjane

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ginnyrose Apr 4, 2009

This week Proverbs 3:5: Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding" has been ministering to my spirit. One could paraphrase it to say: trust in the Lord with all your mind, emotion, and life and do not depend on your or anothers' smarts! There are a lot of people out there - who I suspect have honest intentions - are running scared. Really scared. And I am not so sure but what they do have reason to be scared. But who is in control? God is! God allowed Obama to be elected and he will be in that position as long as He wills. (Y'all may not remember but Richard Nixon won his second election in a landslide but was impeached and out of office a short time later. Was God in control? Certainly.) So, how will we react? Join some militia group who will fight to preserve the status quo? Or, will we submit to the powers that God set up over us knowing full well it could in the end physically hurt us?

Proverbs 3:6-8 teaches us more: "In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil. It shall be health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones." I find this comforting: trusting will be healthful! Worry sickens a body. Really!

As I think about the future, its unpredictability, I know I will be forced to trust the LORD in ways unknown to me by experience. I can not brag about being so faithful when I was tested in the past. Knowing my weaknesses I am challenged everyday to lean upon the LORD to teach me NOW to hear his voice and trust Him NOW. And I must say it is health to the belly ....

God bless all as we learn to trust Him NOW!

ginnyrose

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Earendel Apr 4, 2009


ginnyrose wrote:
Proverbs 3:5

But who is in control? God is!


...So, how will we react? Join some militia group who will fight to preserve the status quo? Or, will we submit to the powers that God set up over us knowing full well it could in the end physically hurt us?

God bless all as we learn to trust Him NOW!

ginnyrose


I guess it doesn't help that your country is about to have a constitutional crisis...one that could change your country forever.

At least that's what this person is leading Americans to believe, and he is not alone in it either; it seems there is a grassroots movement going on in the USA. I have more on this, but won't post it here.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Funbobbasso

so what are Christians to do?

You are right, that Christians are [u]not to fear man,[/u] and what they could do, but only God. Regardless of what is coming on the world, we are to be ready to give an answer of the reason of the hope that is in us. 1 Pet 3:15 Be encouraged and [i]take faith[/i], that Jesus is in us, and the comfort of the Holy Spirit sustains us always. And He will be with us, even to the very end. Matthew 28:20

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ginnyrose Apr 5, 2009

At least that's what this person is leading Americans to believe, and he is not alone in it either; it seems there is a grassroots movement going on in the USA. I have more on this, but won't post it here.

I listened to most of this video. The speaker makes a lot of valid points.....BUT then I remember what the WORD says in Romans 13:1,2 (NASB): "Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves." I believe the WORD is more authoritative then mere man, don't you think?

I have heard local hunters say ammunition is getting hard to find, that it is being bought up by people in the cities. Have no clue where that info comes from, but that is what the locals are saying. If this is true it would take no imagination what may be in store for the future. We can fear, panic and for what good? If civil war erupts, it won't be the first time ... and if we refuse to participate which in the end could take our life - well, so be it. God is still in control. It is like Richard Wurbrand used to say: If God wants you alive, no persecution can kill you!" I think he is right. God is sovereign and I am delighted to rest in it. (Remember, our country has been killing the unborn for many years, so judgement alone for that hideous sin is certainly forthcoming ...)

ginnyrose

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Miccah Apr 5, 2009

Thank you for pouring your heart out sister. Your spirit shines in the midst of His presence.

Sometimes when I begin to fear about the world, politics, work, etc... I remember His words as well. Psalm 56:4 "In God I will praise his word, in God I have put my trust; I will not fear what flesh can do unto me."


Its best to do as Jesus and stay out of politics and the world. Thats what I try to do at least. :-)

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ginnyrose Apr 5, 2009

Its best to do as Jesus and stay out of politics and the world

You are touching a raw nerve here...the pressure to participate in politics is strong, at least to vote, e.g. Too many times it becomes an issue of voting for the lesser of the two evils. Tragic. When I decide I am NOT going to vote, my husband informs me I need to go and vote...{{sigh}}

"To stay out of the world" ...Miccah, would you mind sharing details what you have in mind? and how it can be accomplished?

Blessings,
ginnyrose

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Compton Apr 5, 2009

Ginny, it doesn't help that the internet's mass amateurism of publishing has flooded the church with news consumers who cope with their fears from consuming too much media by re-publishing this media for others to consume.

MC

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Dimlyviewed Apr 6, 2009

"Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink, nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? And which of you by being anxious can add a single hour to his span of life? And why are you anxious about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin, yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is alive and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? Therefore do not be anxious, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all. But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you. "Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.
(Mat 6:25-34)

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White_Stone Apr 6, 2009

Dear Compton,

This is something that I have watched and practiced without actually knowing what it was.

It does not produce fear in my case. At times I feel like a sailors wife on top of the house walking the 'widow's walk,' watching for the sight if His sail. Every thing I read tells me, 'now much longer, spread the Lord's word while you still can.'

However, I will no longer re-publish anything I come upon. If it may cause another to fear it is not worth repeating. Point taken there.

Kind regards,
white stone

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Compton Apr 6, 2009

I will no longer re-publish anything I come upon

Deepest appreciation for your sensitivity White Stone. Very touched actually.

The internet is essentially one destination: namely a person's computer. This means that all the news a person wants about global currency, North Korean missile launches, or homeland disaster prophecies, are just a few clicks away.

There used to be a website dedicated to revival just a few clicks away. Lately that website's public forum has become a platform for republishing secular media under the theme of prophetic 'watching'. It has become a kind of end-times news outlet...even as the community welcomes a new baby into the world.

We decry the world seeping into the church, yet we have become publishers for the world. The signal to noise ratio, the bible to noise ratio, has become very low.

Something to consider. Thanks again White Stone.

MC

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StarofG0D Apr 6, 2009

This encouraged me. Thanks for sharing GinnyRose.
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ginnyrose Apr 8, 2009

it doesn't help that the internet's mass amateurism of publishing has flooded the church with news consumers who cope with their fears from consuming too much media by re-publishing this media for others to consume.

Compton, I love the wording of this tongue-in-cheek definition of .... sounds like a dog chasing his tail! Actually, it made me smile - I think it is funny! You about to write some satire?

Seriously now, one could also include radio talk shows. Sometimes I get the feeling that there is a pack of dogs out there growling at me, ready to pounce on me if I make a mismove. I am concerned about our country, but how to balance this with faith leaves me in a quandary. Since this is the case I will opt to abstain from getting too intellectually involved in current events because I know how damaging it is to faith. I know my limitations, man's limitations, and I know God's power. Doing so will free me from worry and keep me healthy in every sense of the word. God has always been with his people and will continue to do so. He did promise to chasten His children (else we would be bastards) and that is not pleasant,but during all this he is still in control. He is observing, watching and limiting. So why are we running scared?

An interesting side note here... I have lots of cousins living in Elkhart County, IN where the unemployment is 20%. This stress is making people more God conscience, more thankful and they are not as arrogant either - more humble. Their financial stability is precarious, at best. If you have a job, you are so grateful even if it is not the kind of work you like. Just any job that pays anything will do. You would not have heard that attitude expressed several years ago.

Now, I do feel sorry for Barack Obama and Michelle and their precious little girls - they are cute little things!

Blessings,
ginnyrose

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HeartSong Apr 8, 2009

Lately, it is as if things are in a different realm. While things around me are in chaos, the place where I am standing is peaceful and calm. At times I become concerned that it is almost too quiet.

While He is having me to prepare, it is almost as if I am preparing things for another, and not myself. The events that are taking place seem unreal - as if I am watching a movie. Some of the events make me sad, but then I remember the depth of rebellion that has been leveled against our great and awesome God. How cold, and crass and greedy we all had become. How we just kept getting worse and worse.

Even now the people will not listen. Many choose to believe that this is all just temporary and things will soon return to what they once were. Heaven forbid that that should ever be the case.

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Compton Apr 8, 2009

hi Ginnyrose,

I know my limitations, man's limitations, and I know God's power.

This statement expresses such a reassuring inward tranquil strength. It is akin to Psalms 131, a passage I find myself turning to more often as I grow older.

"O LORD, my heart is not proud, nor my eyes haughty;
Nor do I involve myself in great matters,
Or in things too difficult for me.
Surely I have composed and quieted my soul;
Like a weaned child rests against his mother,
My soul is like a weaned child within me.
O Israel, hope in the LORD
From this time forth and forever."

Alas...these days with every natural storm, political storm, military storm, or financial storm there comes the even worst storm...the data storm. Zillions of flapping lips start oscillating, zillions of little fingers start typing and clicking away, raining down their instant replays, their slo mo replays, their edited footage, their diagrams and charts, their flying 3D logos and motion graphics, their theme music, their panel experts, their comparisons, predictions, prophesies and pronouncements.

Every day there is a buffet of baloney large enough to give us all information indigestion! Perhaps one cause of the 'love of many will wax cold' is crisis overload. People will burn out trying to process all of the burdens of this planet.

If we would remain strong enough, patient enough, compassionate enough for our families, church, and communities, we can't keep searching for signs of the Second Advent of our Lord over the global fretwork. Trying to calculate all the possible angles is not the work of a watchman, it's the work of a madman. Such a task would be hard even on a super computer without emotions, let alone the human psyche. We will blow a fuse sooner or later. We aren't God almighty.

Blessings,

MC


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broclint Apr 8, 2009

If we would remain strong enough, patient enough, compassionate enough for our families, church, and communities, we can't keep searching for signs of the Second Advent of our Lord over the global fretwork.

Well said, Mike. Excellent thread Ginny.

Those who have experienced a few of those storms in which the Master has spoken "peace be still" just cannot seem to get as agitated over every squall that comes along. Not at all saying that this is not going to be a major hurricane, but it is not the size of the storm, but the power of the Master that counts.

Clint

sermonindex Apr 9, 2009

I guess it would be almost impossible to post all from the Old Testament Prophets and through almost every book in the New Testament, how much is spoken for our benefit regarding "those days."
Jesus' warnings alone would fill this page.
But just to give some of my view point from all that the Bible's Author has written for our benefit -


The "sons of Issachar" - who stood by David -

1Ch 12:22 For at that time day by day there came to David to help him, until it was a great host, like the host of God.
1Ch 12:32 And of the children of Issachar, [b]which were men that had understanding of the times[/b], to know what Israel ought to do; the heads of them were two hundred; and all their brethren were at their commandment.


[b]R. A. Torrey wrote of this verse[/b] - 1Ch 12:32

[i]understanding of the times: That is, as the following words indicate, intelligent men, who understood the signs of the times, well versed in political affairs, and knew what was proper to be done in all the exigencies of human life; and who now perceived that it was both the duty and political interest of Israel to advance David to the throne.[/i]


[b]Albert Barnes wrote[/b] - 1Ch 12:32

[i]Men that had understanding of the times - This is best interpreted politically. [/i]


[b]Jamieson, Rausset and Brown wrote[/b] - 1Ch 12:32

[i]children of Issachar, ... that had understanding of the times, etc. — Jewish writers say that the people of this tribe were eminent for their acquirements in astronomical and physical science; and the object of the remark was probably to show that the intelligent and learned classes were united with the military, and had declared for David. [/i]

I suppose we can say that we "declare for the Son of David" - Praise GOD, He's Coming Back!

But what keeps me on-guard is this verse in bold --

[i]Dan 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
Dan 11:33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
Dan 11:34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
[b]Dan 11:35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed. [/b][/i]

If even those "of understanding shall "fall" to try them" - how much more those that are not?
Verse 33 doesn't scare me - but truthfully, vs 35 stays on my mind a lot. I'd really rather not have to fall if I can in any way stay close enough to Him and His Voice of warnings about these days we're in, from His warnings in His Word as well - giving as much heed/time to those Scripture passages as He has.
Psalm 56 covers the fear of men. We must not fear men, but fear HIM only.
Something to pray about, in the fear of GOD, I believe. Just a bit from Jesus ~ Luke 21:8 through to the end of that chpt.

sermonindex Apr 9, 2009


HeartSong wrote:
Lately, it is as if things are in a different realm. While things around me are in chaos, the place where I am standing is peaceful and calm. At times I become concerned that it is almost too quiet.

While He is having me to prepare, it is almost as if I am preparing things for another, and not myself. The events that are taking place seem unreal - as if I am watching a movie. Some of the events make me sad, but then I remember the depth of rebellion that has been leveled against our great and awesome God. How cold, and crass and greedy we all had become. How we just kept getting worse and worse.

Even now the people will not listen. Many choose to believe that this is all just temporary and things will soon return to what they once were. Heaven forbid that that should ever be the case.


Excellent post Sister. This is where I am as well.
Complete Peace and anticipation of our Coming BrideGroom. :-)

That is all these "signs of the times" mean to me. HE'S COMING - Praise and Glory to GOD!

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