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The Old Cross / The New Cross

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crsschk Aug 18, 2004

"If your love for the Lord is pure, you will love Him as much on Calvary as on Mount Tabor"~ Madame Jeanne GuyonWith this open secret awaiting easy discovery, why do we in almost all our busy activities work in another direction from this? Why do we build our churches upon human flesh? Why do we set such store by that which the Lord has long ago repudiated and despise those things which God holds in such high esteem? For we teach men not to die with Christ but to live in the strength of their dying manhood. We boast not in our weakness but in our strength. Values which Christ has declared to be false are brought back into evangelical favor and promoted as the very life and substance of the Christian way. How eagerly do we seek the approval of this or that man of worldly reputation. How shamefully do we exploit the converted celebrity. Anyone will do to take away the reproach of obscurity from our publicity-hungry leaders: famous athletes, congressmen, world travelers, rich industrialists; before such we bow with obsequious smiles and honor them in our public meetings and in the religious press. Thus we glorify men to enhance the standing of the Church of God, and the glory of the Prince of Life is made to hang upon the transient fame of a man who shall die.\tWe are slaves to our gadgets, puppets of our power, and prisoners of our security. The theme of our generation is: "Get more, know more, and do more," instead of "Pray more, be more, and serve more."~Billy Graham It is amazing that we can claim to be followers of Christ and yet take so lightly the words of His servants. We could not act as we do if we took seriously the admonition of James the servant of God:My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; and ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts? Hearken, my beloved brethren, hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? (James 2:1-5)The cross always stands ready, and everywhere awaits you. You cannot escape it, wherever you flee, for wherever you go, you bear yourself, and always find yourself. Look up or down, without you or within, and everywhere you will find the cross.~ Thomas a' KempisPaul saw these things in another light than did those of whom James makes his complaint. “By the cross,” he said, “I am crucified unto the world” (see Galatian 6:14). The cross where Jesus died became also the cross where His apostle died. The loss, the rejection, the shame, belong both to Christ and to all who in very truth are His. The cross that saves them also slays them, and anything short of this is a pseudo-faith and not true faith at all. But what are we to say when the great majority of our evangelical leaders walk not as crucified men but as those who accept the world at its own value—rejecting only its grosser elements? How can we face Him who was crucified and slain when we see His followers accepted and praised? Yet they preach the cross and protest loudly that they are true believers. Are there then two crosses? And did Paul mean one thing and they another? I fear that it is so, that there are two crosses, the old cross and the new.The church is looking for better methods; God is looking for better men.~Edward Mckendree Bounds\tRemembering my own deep imperfections I would think and speak with charity of all who take upon them the worthy Name by which we Christians are called. But if I see aright, the cross of popular evangelicalism is not the cross of the New Testament. It is, rather, a new bright ornament upon the bosom of self-assured and carnal Christianity whose hands are indeed the hands of Abel, but whose voice is the voice of Cain. The old cross slew men; the new cross entertains them. The old cross condemned; the new cross amuses. The old cross destroyed confidence in the flesh; the new cross encourages it. The old cross brought tears and blood; the new cross brings laughter. The flesh, smiling and confident, preaches and sings about the cross; before the cross it bows and toward the cross it points with carefully staged histrionics—but upon that cross it will not die, and the reproach of that cross it stubbornly refuses to bear.I have come to feel very badly about many church-growth moguls. There is often little of Jeremiah in their message. The thorny personal requirements of Amos or John the Baptist have been traded for a velvet togetherness. In fact, megachurch messages are all too often contrived to attrack the largest possible crowds. The scriptural feeding of these thousands is often accomplished by keeping the soup so bland that no one is offended by the taste. If any significant content arises, it is put aside lest anything doctrinal or demanding get in the way of building a large crowd. In such a milieu we never talk about the quality of the soup, only how many we serve.~Calvin MillerI well know how many smooth arguments can be marshaled in support of the new cross. Does not the new cross win converts and make many followers and so carry the advantage of numerical success? Should we not adjust ourselves to the changing times? Have we not heard the new slogan “New days, new ways”? And who but someone very old and very conservative would insist upon death as the appointed way to life? And who today is interested in a gloomy mysticism that would sentence its flesh to a cross and recommend self-effacing humility as a virtue actually to be practiced by modern Christians? These are the arguments, along with many more flippant still, which are brought forward to give an appearance of wisdom to the hollow and meaningless cross of popular Christianity.Doubtless there are many whose eyes are open to the tragedy of our times, but why are they so silent when their testimony is so sorely needed? In the name of Christ men have made void the cross of Christ. “The noise of them that sing do I hear” (Exodus 32:18). Men have fashioned a golden cross with a graving tool, and before it they sit down to eat and drink and rise up to play. In their blindness they have substituted the work of their own hands for the working of God’s power. Perhaps our greatest present need may be the coming of a prophet to dash the stones at the foot of the mountain and call the Church out to repentance or to judgment.Oh God our Father, how easy it is to backslide, to be living and yet be dead. How easy it is to become part of a troop of jolly church people, chattering and giggling, while the world grows old, the judgment draws near, hell enlarges its borders and the antichrist prepares himself to take over. While the world is unifying itself and getting ready for a king, oh God, my church is playing and saying, “I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing” (Revelation 3:17). We have more people attending, we have more money than we ever had. Our churches cost more and our schools are full and our programs are many. But we are forgetting, oh my God, that the quality of our Christianity has been greatly impaired.-AWT in The Attributes of God,Vol.1----------------------------The Pursuit of God-The Pursuit of ManDevotinal ReadingsA.W. TozerCompiled By Edythe Draper

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crsschk Aug 18, 2004

More Thoughts From Tozer On The Old And New CrossUNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENCEALL UNANNOUNCED AND MOSTLY UNDETECTED there has come in modern times a new cross into popular evangelical circles. It is like the old cross, but different: the likenesses are superficial; the differences, fundamental.\tFrom this new cross has sprung a new philosophy of the Christian life, and from that new philosophy has come a new evangelical technique—a new type of meeting and a new kind of preaching. This new evangelism employs the same language as the old, but its content is not the same and its emphasis not as before.THE NEW CROSSThe new cross is not opposed to the human race; rather, it is a friendly pal and, if understood aright, it is the source of oceans of good clean fun and innocent enjoyment. It lets Adam live without interference. His life motivation is unchanged; he still lives for his own pleasure, only now he takes delight in singing choruses and watching religious movies instead of singing bawdy songs and drinking hard liquor. The accent is still on enjoyment, though the fun is now on a higher plane morally if not intellectually.The new cross encourages a new and entirely different evangelistic approach. The evangelist does not demand abnegation of the old life before a new life can be received. He preaches not contrasts but similarities. He seeks to key into public interest by showing that Christianity makes no unpleasant demands; rather, it offers the same thing the world does, only on a higher level. Whatever the sin-mad world happens to be clamoring after at the moment is cleverly shown to be the very thing the gospel offers, only the religious product is better.The new cross does not slay the sinner, it redirects him. It gears him into a cleaner and jollier way of living and saves his self-respect. To the self-assertive it says, “Come and assert yourself for Christ.” To the egotist it says, “Come and do your boasting in the Lord.” To the thrillseeker it says, “Come and enjoy the thrill of Christian fellowship.” The Christian message is slanted in the direction of the current vogue in order to make it acceptable to the public.THE OLD CROSS\tThe old cross is a symbol of death. It stands for the abrupt, violent end of a human being. The man in Roman times who took up his cross and started down the road had already said good-by to his friends. He was not coming back. He was going out to have it ended. The cross made no compromise, modified nothing, spared nothing; it slew all of the man, completely and for good. It did not try to keep on good terms with its victim. It struck cruel and hard, and when it had finished its work, the man was no more.\tGod offers life, but not an improved old life. The life He offers is life out of death. It stands always on the far side of the cross. Whoever would possess it must pass under the rod. He must repudiate himself and concur in God’s just sentence against him. What does this mean to the individual, the condemned man who would find life in Christ Jesus? How can this theology be translated into life? Simply, he must repent and believe. He must forsake his sins and then go on to forsake himself. Let him cover nothing, defend nothing, excuse nothing. Let him not seek to make terms with God, but let him bow his head before the stroke of God’s stern displeasure and acknowledge himself worthy to die.Having done this let him gaze with simple trust upon the risen Saviour, and from Him will come life and rebirth and cleansing and power. The cross that ended the earthly life of Jesus now puts an end to the sinner; and the power that raised Christ from the dead now raises him to a new life along with Christ.-AWT in Man: The Dwelling Place of God------------------------------------------The Pursuit of God-The Pursuit of ManDevotinal ReadingsA.W. TozerCompiled By Edythe Draper

sermonindex Aug 18, 2004

"If your love for the Lord is pure, you will love Him as much on Calvary as on Mount Tabor"Man! Mike you have been busy mining I see, this is very valuable materials at first glance and really worth a good meditative read through. I remember reading a tract by A.W Tozer on the 'old cross and new cross' referring to the change of the preaching of the gospel.

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crsschk Aug 18, 2004

Yeah, I love this little devotional, pocket sized, lot's of outakes so I had to get creative with the ol cut and paste, to keep it as the Author had compiled it.Think I had mentioned it before, on the cover the way the text looked, for the longest time I thought it was some English bloke by the name of "Edy the Draper"... :-(

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crsschk Aug 19, 2004

The complete text that these were derived from:Victory Through Defeat (From, "The Pursuit of Man")Man - The Dwelling Place of God - The Old Cross and the NewAnd the remainder of the prayer from the first post (not included in that rendering):Oh, restore again, we cry, restore again to Thy Church her vision of Thee. Restore again to Thy Church her sight of the great God. Show us Thy face, Thy lovely face, a permanent view of Majesty. We will not ask for a transient beam; we want a permanent sight of Thee in all Thy wonder.\tOh God, men sin on and on while they smile at religion; they laugh about it and tolerate it. But, oh God, we have lost our fear and our sense of majesty and our awe. Give back to us, we pray, the majesty in the heavens; give back to us a sight of majesty again so we can know how wonderful Thou art. “Thy majesty, how bright; how beautiful Thy mercy seat in depths of burning light.”\tSend us forth to pray, to walk about knowing that we are in the garden indeed, even as thou didst walk “in the garden in the cool of the day” (Genesis 3:8), and Adam hid. Oh, how many of us, Lord, hide behind one thing or another because we are not morally and spiritually prepared to come out and walk with Thee. But “Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him” (5:24). Moses looked upon Thy face, and his face did shine (see Exodus 34:29). Oh God, send us out not only to make converts, but to glorify the Father and to hold up the beauty of Jesus Christ to men. All this we ask in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.

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moreofHim Aug 19, 2004

Mike, this is excellent!And who today is interested in a gloomy mysticism that would sentence its flesh to a cross and recommend self-effacing humility as a virtue actually to be practiced by modern Christians? You know as I read all of this, to many it would seem gloomy and negative. But this is the veil that the devil has kept over people's eyes- if people only knew how much more peace, joy and contentment that you have once you decide ( or see) that the cross is the only way to go.Here are all of these people trying to please their flesh because they think that is what is going to make them happy. I have to really wonder if maybe people are really looking for peace and contentment and they think this means the same thing as happiness.I actually feel sorry for all of these people because no one is feeding them the food that their spirit hungers for. Yes, it's a bit bitter at first try, but it's only because they've been feeding on candy for too long. You know how orange juice (which is good for you) tastes bitter after you've eaten something sweet (mostly bad for you, not nourishing). But if they had tasted the orange juice (the real gospel of the cross) first- then it doesn't seem bitter at all, but sweet!The gospel of the cross is SWEET! ( i know it sounds to most like an oxymoron) It is precious. It brings life (out of death).I just have this feeling welling up inside that if they only knew how much more wonderful this life is, how you don't have to go on struggling and trying to find the next big thing to make you "feel" happy.Everyone is looking for the answer to find real genuine peace- they don't realize it's in the cross.

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JCGarc55 Aug 19, 2004

THX MIKE

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crsschk Aug 19, 2004

Here you go:Christian Publiscations, Inc.It's 'pocket sized' somewhat, leather(?) clad, printed on bible quality paper. Very nice, a great gift...

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moreofHim Aug 19, 2004

I gave this pocket sized edition to my Father-in-Law for Christmas 2 years ago. Don't know if he read it. I was hoping that it might be something he carried with him in the car, etc.. since he travels alot. I give him alot of books though, and i can't say that he has read them. :-o Last time I went there, the Humility book that i gave him for his birthday a couple of years ago remains unopened.may someone come and water these seeds! :)

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crsschk Aug 19, 2004

Well, can most certainly pray that it start's raining... :-) P.S. Love the new signiture!

sermonindex Aug 19, 2004

Oh God our Father, how easy it is to backslide, to be living and yet be dead. How easy it is to become part of a troop of jolly church people, chattering and giggling, while the world grows old, the judgment draws near, hell enlarges its borders and the antichrist prepares himself to take over.What powerful words! What scares me the most is men like A.W. Tozer were repenting and seeking the Lord knowing in their day times were very bad for the church of Jesus Christ. But now we are not alarmed or worried as we should be and we are in a thrice worse state then they were. we can cry out as hanna did: Give me revival or I will die, but we could take that and also say give us revival or we will surely die.

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ZekeO Aug 29, 2004

Was pondering on this verse:Those who want to make a good impression outwardly are trying to compel you to be circumcised. The only reason they do this is to avoid being persecuted for the cross of Christ. 13Not even those who are circumcised obey the law, yet they want you to be circumcised that they may boast about your flesh. 14May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through whichB the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world. 15Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is a new creation. Galations 6:12-15Read this in Henry's Comentary about it: Proud, vain, and carnal hearts, are content with just so much religion as will help to keep up a fair show. But the apostle professes his own faith, hope, and joy; and that his principal glory was in the cross of Christ. By which is here meant, his sufferings and death on the cross, the doctrine of salvation by a crucified Redeemer. By Christ, or by the cross of Christ, the world is crucified to the believer, and he to the world.The more we consider the sufferings of the Redeemer from the world, the less likely shall we be to love the world. The apostle was as little affected by its charms, as a beholder would be by any thing which had been graceful in the face of a crucified person, when he beholds it blackened in the agonies of death. He was no more affected by the objects around him, than one who is expiring would be struck with any of the prospects his dying eyes might view from the cross on which he hung. And as to those who have truly believed in Christ Jesus, all things are counted as utterly worthless compared with him. There is a new creation; old things are passed away, and new views and dispositions are brought in under the regenerating influences of God the Holy Spirit. Believers are brought into a new world, and being created in Christ Jesus unto good works, are formed to a life of holiness. It is a change of mind and heart, whereby we are enabled to believe in the Lord Jesus, and to live to God; and where this inward, practical religion is wanting, outward professions, or names, will never stand in any stead.Really was quite a powerful explanation of what Paul was meaning. Adds quite a perspective of being crucified with Christ.Zeke

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crsschk Feb 23, 2005

A revisiting...

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