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Confirmed cases of H1N1 virus approach 900

sermonindex May 4, 2009


[b]Confirmed cases of H1N1 virus approach 900[/b]

The World Health Organization cautioned that the swine flu outbreak could gain momentum in the months ahead, despite claims by the health secretary of Mexico -- the epicenter of the outbreak -- that the virus "is in its declining phase."

The outbreak is only about 10 days old, and even if the illness is declining, it could return, said Gregory Hartl, the WHO spokesman for epidemic and pandemic diseases, at a briefing Sunday. "I ... would like to remind people that in 1918 the Spanish flu showed a surge in the spring, and then disappeared in the summer months, only to return in the autumn of 1918 with a vengeance," Hartl said. "And we know that that eventually killed 40 million to 50 million people."

Mexican authorities believe the virus's most active period in Mexico was between April 23 and April 28, and Mexican Health Secretary Jose Cordova described the outbreak as being in decline in his country. As of late Sunday, Mexican health officials reported 568 cases and 22 fatalities linked to the flu. WHO says it has confirmed 506 cases and 19 deaths in Mexico.

The world has 898 confirmed cases of the virus, known to scientists H1N1 virus, in a total of 18 countries, WHO said Sunday.

read more: www.cnn.com

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HeartSong May 4, 2009

Just who is WHO anyway?

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World Health Organisation. The biggest group that takes care of health issues in the whole entire world!

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HeartSong May 4, 2009

What exactly do they do?

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iansmith May 4, 2009

Greg,

Please stop propogating this story, it is a construction of the media to incite fear.

Seasonal Influenze, the Flu virus that strikes on a yearly basis kills more than 20,000 people in the United States alone.

"During a typical year in the United States, 30,000 to 50,000 persons die as a result of influenza viral infection. Frequently cited numbers are 20,000 deaths each year, and 37,000 annual deaths. About 5-10% of hospitalizations for influenza lead to fatal outcome in adults." (http://www.globalsecurity.org/security/ops/hsc-scen-3_flu-pandemic-deaths.htm)

The only reason that this story is being pushed so hard is to incite unnecessary fear in the general public and sell more newspapers and medicine.

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I have to agree with Ian as well. And also I believe there is some behind the scenes planning with the Obama administration to cause panic over this in order to push through their agenda for socialism medical policies.

It's matter of hyping this up as much as possible to push an agenda just like they did with the economy in the fall. The economic collapse is real, but the Obama people and the media have hyped it sky high in order to rush thru dangerous legislation, and trash the Constitution. As one Obama administration person said "We should never let a good crisis go to waste".

You watch... in a couple of weeks it will be "this is a major crisis and we must act NOW...", just like they did with those stupid bailouts that did nothing but plunge us into the deepest debt we've ever seen in this nation. The economy has not recovered, and we're over heads in debt. Let's give DC a big hand... well done.

They are using the swine flu the same way.

People never mention that there was a swine flu outbreak in the 1970's during the failed Carter administration. The number of infections stayed low, more people died from the vaccination than from the flu... and in a few months it disappeared from the headlines and everyone forgot it ever happened... because it was much to do about nothing. Just media hype.

Krispy

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Ian, could you not have given your opinion on this topic without telling the owner of the site what he can and can't post? Had this been the first time you've done this, I'd understand that maybe it was just your anger over what they are doing with this 'story' about this flu. I'm upset with whomever is blowing this out of proportion as well - so I sympathise with all who are seeing the shady side of what they're doing with this.

I believe this is just the "test run" for the next "pandamic outbreak."
There's Always a "test run" for future plans to monitor the populace's 'reactions'.

My main point is - I don't feel we have the right to tell anyone what they can or can't post. Only the Owner of the Site can do so.

I'm praying for SI and praying that no one who supports this website or has been here a long time, will feel they have any "right" to tell the Owner what he can and can't post, as I mentioned, I've seen this before.

Let's just post our views on the topics and not judge or question the poster's 'motives.' Policing others is not our job but the owner's.
We don't KNOW each other - we only know what the other posts - not "why".

I have no ulterior motives for writing this, because I don't know that I can stay on-line much longer.
In His Peace.
Your Sis

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I'm sorry, I forgot to add that this story about the flu keeps morphing and the flu itself is as well, according to the LATimes etc.

Saturday, the LATimes said that WHO may raise the level up to 6.

Maybe if we keep this Pig-Flu to just one thread, it won't seem so bad or hyper.

We'll just watch what they report - that's all - no fear - they've already said that this is not worse than any other flu and certainly not 1918.
It can be frustrating, for sure - but just watching what they're doing is making us educated enough to speak to those we may come in contact with who may be fearful - then we'll be informed enough to give educated answers to help them.

[url=http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-sci-swineflu3-2009may03,0,2085891.story]LATimes[/url]

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ChrisJD May 5, 2009

Ian, could you not have given your opinion on this topic without telling the owner of the site what he can and can't post?


I don't see where Ian told anyone what to post or not to post. He [b]asked[/b](said 'please stop') that this story not continue to be proprogated on the grounds that he gave following.

Warning others that they may be or that they are spreading misinformation or falsehood is not wrong.

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We have countless missionaries in Mexico and this story matters to them, as some are also in the medical field and we are getting reports back from them.

I asked, if we could just keep one thread so as not to "incite fear" but keep the people informed, so they know how to answer those who are either at risk or are just fearful.

To any who has no husband, wife or child now because of 'any' contagious bug, this is something they wouldn't want to go un-spoken of. Our hearts go out to them.

Regardless if this should be a level 1 - 5 or 6, the Church should be there with some sort of knowledge to share and to show that we care - even if they don't come from 'our' country.

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UK

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8033048.stm

US

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8032188.stm


China News

http://www.chinaview.cn/sf/

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ginnyrose May 5, 2009

Can we have a little fun in the midst of this ... umm well..controversial subject? I got this in my email this morning...

"It was once said that a black man would be president 'when pigs fly.' 100 days into Obama's presidency. . . . . swine flu."

ginnyrose

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HeartSong May 5, 2009

I went to an intro class for Bible Study Fellowship last night. At one point we were encouraged to greet each other but the leader pointed out that if we were concerned about the flu, we should not shake hands.

This is clearly a trick of the enemy, for one of his missions is to divide the people. Not shaking hands and wearing a mask is not going to save us from getting the flu - it is our Lord Jesus Christ that saves us.

By turning to the devices of the world for our protection, we are aligning ourselves with the enemy, and making a proclamation both to the world, and to the powers of darkness, that this is where we put our trust.

I do not know how long the "World Health Organization" has existed, but they clearly are not doing a very good job for almost everyone that I know is sick and on at least two or more kinds of drugs. From what I can tell, all they do is promote fear. Here is the definition of health:


HEALTH, n. helth. [from heal.] That state of an animal or living body, in which the parts are sound, well organized and disposed, and in which they all perform freely their natural functions. In this state the animal feels no pain. This word is applied also to plants.

1. Sound state of the mind; natural vigor of faculties.

2. Sound state of the mind, in a moral sense; purity; goodness.

There is no health in us.

3. Salvation or divine favor, or grace which cheers God's people. Ps.43,

4. Wish of health and happiness; used in drinking. Come, love and health to all; an elliptical phrase, for, I wish health to you.

http://1828.mshaffer.com/d/search/word,health


It is our fear that makes us vulnerable. I am happy to say that at the BSF meeting everyone was shaking hands and hugging each other - if they had not, I probably would not have returned for that very act would have told me where they put their trust - or rather, did not put their trust.

1. Romans 16:16
Salute one another with an holy kiss. The churches of Christ salute you.

2. 1 Corinthians 16:20
All the brethren greet you. Greet ye one another with an holy kiss.

3. 2 Corinthians 13:12
Greet one another with an holy kiss.

4. 1 Thessalonians 5:26
Greet all the brethren with an holy kiss.

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Neither I nor the brethren I know are fearful of this thing but I do find the humor in this as well.

Someone posts an Article from the main stream news reporting what the World Health Organization has said and gets to hear "Warning others that they may be or that they are spreading misinformation or falsehood is not wrong." ---- yet when a Republican president was in - oh my - we had to show the utmost respect and Never post any Articles unless they WERE from the Main Stream media or it would be called misinformation or conspiracy theories.

:lol:

Well that was last year & before, but now it's this year.

We no longer need to say "Mr." before the President's name.

We can speak ill of this President and blame what WHO says and what starts in Mexico on him alone.


All in good fun friends - I just think the freedom of speech has gone through a paradigm switch with this issue of presidents & pigs.


I'm with you HeartSong - my main point is don't let this "divide us" - allow the freedom of speech.

We shouldn't pick and choose what 'we' believe is a conspiracy and forbid others who have other ideas or are just posting what these main stream maniacs are putting out there ...... because the same one who is being told not to post main stream news now, was also told not to post an "Alternative News" reporter from England not 'that' long ago.

I'm praying we can all lighten up on each other and keep a good spirit through this and all the other junk they have planned - as Brethren - whether we agree with one another or not. That's our Main Prayer.

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HeartSong May 5, 2009

We shouldn't pick and choose what 'we' believe is a conspiracy and forbid others who have other ideas or are just posting what these main stream maniacs are putting out there ...... because the same one who is being told not to post main stream news now, was also told not to post an "Alternative News" reporter from England not 'that' long ago.

We must do that which the Lord directs us to do. Not talking about something does not make it go away - it is just another form of denial. We are commanded to encourage one another in the Lord.


I just can't figure out where WHO came from. When I first saw the acronym I thought it was a joke - have they been around for long?

We can speak ill of this President and blame what WHO says and what starts in Mexico on him alone.

Who did start WHO? What qualifies them to make these kinds of determinations - things that affect the entire world?

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Sis, WHO is just like the U.N. or IMF or World Bank - like the CDC on steroids. Everything is Global now, so we'll be hearing from them until the LORD Returns.


Back in the 80'a there was a British Program on TV called "Dr. Who". :lol:

No wonder I took David W's advise and through that squak-box out the window.


Editing to add wikipedia quote:

"The World Health Organization (WHO) is a specialized agency of the United Nations (UN) that acts as a coordinating authority on international public health. Established on 7 April 1948, and headquartered in Geneva, Switzerland, the agency inherited the mandate and resources of its predecessor, the Health Organization, which had been an agency of the League of Nations."

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HeartSong May 5, 2009

Established on 7 April 1948 . . .

:-?


I guess when we don't rely on God for our protection we end up with all kinds of organizations running around doing "WHO" knows what.

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'Who' is right. The most interesting part of all of this is that it all happened around the same time that Israel became a nation. The UN declared or made Israel a nation. The UN came into existance and all these Global entities attached to it, like WHO, the IMF, ETC ETC but through gradualization, they allowed folks to think that we were running on Sovereignty when actually - we've been in the NWO since WW2 with the League of Nations and NATO and more solidly based with the UN in 1945 after the war. "That generation".

Gets me happy personally and I get tears when folks think they can't "fight or stop" this when it's truly existed this long - it's just finally Now, in your face.

We had a fascade of "choice" in this nation for all these years - but if we really look and research this out, we find that we've only lost more and more of everything that made this country what it was since then.
My husband being born in 1947 could tell you how far we've come in every fascet of our society, nonetheless our parents who are still alive. What a morph. Demopublicans and Republicrats.

Jesus will be back in our generation. THAT brings me Great JOY - no matter what we face tomorrow, this month - the next month - next year - 3 years from now and however long or horrible it gets - compared to ETERNITY - Wow - it's like a second in time. "Occupy until I Come". Amen :-D !

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ChrisJD May 5, 2009

I'm praying we can all lighten up on each other and keep a good spirit through this and all the other junk they have planned - as Brethren - whether we agree with one another or not. That's our Main Prayer.

One of the ways that we can gaurd the spirits of others is by not putting the world's junk before them to feed upon.


Never once do we read of any sort of 'news', 'rumor' or 'supposition' that came from the mouth of God when the Lord Jesus Christ spoke.


Neither did He command us to put the world's information smut in our mouths and to retell it to others.

Edit: when I say "any sort of 'news', 'rumor' or 'supposition'" I mean in the wordly sense of these words that we understand them today.

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Brother, do you realize what you're saying, that is connected with who started this thread and on which section?

I pray you'll pray about this.

His Peace to you.

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