Qualifications to go with Christ at His Second Coming.

Qualifications to go with Christ at His Second Coming.

Rev: 1:7; I Thess 4:13-18; 1Cor 15:51.

1. Be in Christ.

2Cor 5:17-18, 1Thess 4:16.

2. Be Christ’s.

1Cor 15; 51.

3. Be holy.

Rev 20: 4-6.

4. Do good.

John 5:28-29.

5. Be worthy.

Luke 21:36.

6. Be pure.

1 John 3:2-3.

7. Be without spot or wrinkle-

I Thess 5:23.

8. Live and Walk in the spirit.

Gal 5:19-21.

9. Walk in the light of the God's word.

1 Jn 1:7. Col 2:6

Be truly saved would be the main one, i disagree with the do good one, that doesn't matter at all.We our saved only by his righteousness, if it depends at all on what we do or what we didn't do, or how we did this kinda of sin then we our now talking about a works salvation, the saved will continue on that is what the purpose of the new birth is as ezekiel 36 says to us in his commandments and god will keep us. Good post.

well we are saved unto good works, faith and works are two sides on one coin, cant have one without the other so to say, if you have ffaith but no works your faith is worthless and will not hold in the day, if you only have works but no faith that is as you say trusting in doing or earning our way into heaven by our own effort and is as faulty as the other one.

Jesus said repent and belive.

works (repentance) and faith together will save you.

Thank GOD that those whom He predestined,
these HE also called, and whom HE called;
these HE also justified; and whom HE justified,
these HE also glorified!! see ROM 8:29-30 :-P

to say good deed works are not important are to speak against much scripture. I realize you may lean heavely towards reformed or calvinistic persuasion but scripture has much to say about it, not speaking in the act of salvation but in the christian life, they matter much.

Romans 6:16 Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one's slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness? (Rom 6:16 NKJ)

Revelation 22:11 "He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still." (Rev 22:11 NKJ)

Revelation 3:11 "Behold, I am coming quickly! Hold fast what you have, that no one may take your crown. (Rev 3:11 NKJ)

Ephesians 2:10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them. (Eph 2:10 NKJ)

2Co 9:8 And God is able to make all grace abound to you, that always having all sufficiency in everything, you may have an abundance for every good deed;

Col 1:10 so that you may walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, to please Him in all respects, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God;

2Th 2:17 comfort and strengthen your hearts in every good work and word.

2Ti 2:21 Therefore, if a man cleanses himself from these things, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified, useful to the Master, prepared for every good work.

Tit 2:7 in all things show yourself to be an example of good deeds, with purity in doctrine, dignified,

Tit 2:14 who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself a people for His own possession, zealous for good deeds.

Tit 3:8 This is a trustworthy statement; and concerning these things I want you to speak confidently, so that those who have believed God may be careful to engage in good deeds. These things are good and profitable for men.

Tit 3:14 And let our people also learn to engage in good deeds to meet pressing needs, that they may not be unfruitful.

Heb 10:24 and let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds,

Heb 13:21 equip you in every good thing to do His will, working in us that which is pleasing in His sight, through Jesus Christ, to whom be the glory forever and ever. Amen.

1Pe 2:12 Keep your behavior excellent among the Gentiles, so that in the thing in which they slander you as evildoers, they may on account of your good deeds, as they observe them, glorify God in the day of visitation.

amen, the esay belivism today is not what reformed theolgy has been throughout the time, spurgeon, edwards, withfield, ect ect.

although i am not in agreement on them on some small things as the role of free will and other such trivial things i have much respect and reverence for them and what they allowed God to work through them, and i think i should have worded my post better, i know there are a few good reformed churches out there, just as there are a few on the other side also.

a few that have not bowed their knee.... doctrines may vary and so on, but the love for god and truth is there

a good example of a reformed preacher believing strongly in "good works" is edwards, its obvious when reading his resolutions. Many modern believers would accuse edwards to believe a saved by works salvation when reading them.

[url=http://www.reformed.org/documents/Edwards/index.html?mainframe=/documents/Edwards/j_edwards_resolutions.html]edwards resolutions[/url]

I believe the brother was telling us to read Romans 8:29-30 not quoting the 29th verse. I was raised in the SBC in the mid TN area and works were preached a lot more than grace. I found myself a lost church member that had made a profession because of the fear of hell and not because of my sin against a Holy God. I had no understanding of the vicarious atoning work of Christ at all. Fear moved me. God regenerated me and I experienced grace in my life and am now still. We were predestined unto good works that we should walk in them. There is no room in the Doctrines of Grace or as one used "calvinism" for a believer to just set back and say what will be will be. That is fatalism. I do not believe in fate I believe in God. Noah did not say well God said to build an ark yet where is the wood. He moved with fear(reverence)in the preparing of an ark for the saving of his household. God decreed it I believe it and that settles it, but there is a thing that people so embedded in calvinism forget so easily, responsibility. God is Sovereign yet man is responsible. God will not believe for you. Faith is the evidence of this salvation that is not seen but makes manifest the operation of God that has happened within. I am a "5 point calvinists" but I do not believe that we are without responsibilities. They shall see our good work and glorify the Father that is our reward that God's purpose in Christ might be exalted. He WORKS in us both to will and do after His own good pleasure. Faith without works is dead friend.

I find it wonderfully strange that this showed up in my in-box today, June 8, 2009, the day you proposed this topic.

[b]June 8 - The Lord My Portion by Watchman Nee[/b]

"But watch ye at every season, making supplication, that ye may prevail to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man." [b]Luke 21.36[/b].

The Lord distinctly promises that the church may escape the Great Tribulation and “stand before the Son of man”—This no doubt refers to rapture. Nevertheless, there is a condition involved. Not for all who are simply born again, but for those born-again ones who watch and pray. “That ye may prevail”—If you watch and pray, you may prevail. Hence the promise is given to those who do these things. Does everyone in the whole church watch and pray? Let us pay attention to this.

(just had to post this)

Thank you JoanM for your post.

I believe this with all my heart. I stated a post a while back of the danger of not looking for the rapture before the great tribulation.

It makes no matter to me how many preachers on SI or believers who believe that the church must go through the great tribulation before the rapture, they do not discourage me, for I have seen and experienced the Lord mightily in my Life.

I will continually watch and pray. I don't believe everyone who has been born of God will go in the rapture before the great tribulation, but I believe we must watch and pray and be filled with the Holy Spirit if we will be a part of the faithful bride who does escape.

I believe in heeding the warnings of Jesus.

Blessings to all!

Part of the faithful bride?

2Ti 2:11 [It is] a faithful saying: For if we be dead with [him], we shall also live with [him]:

2Ti 2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with [him]: if we deny [him], he also will deny us:

2Ti 2:13 If we believe not, [yet] he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

2Ti 2:14 Of these things put [them] in remembrance, charging [them] before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, [but] to the subverting of the hearers.

The bride is the Body of Christ is it not? I am asking.

If the bride is the body of Christ do we, as in his death which we partook, not partake in His faith? So therefore how can one have been more faithful (trusting or loyal) than the other seeing that we are made into one body, that being Christ. Are we not in this vital union not to be plucked out? Do we then seperate that which God has joined together at the "rapture"?

Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition [between us];

Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, [even] the law of commandments [contained] in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, [so] making peace;

Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

Eph 2:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.

Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

This act of God was consumated at the cross. So do we seperate those which are in Christ because of a deed that is shown stronger by one more than another? What about the babes in Christ?

A lot of people believe the Spirit will be taken away during the Great Tribulation. During this time the jews are awaken out of their slumber but by what means, Works..? Would this not be taking a step back considering that righteousness never came by the Law because if had then Christ is dead in vain? Has the Spirit vacated His office during this time? If there are some left behind how are they to make due without the Comforter that Christ has promised the believer? Will there not be preaching during this time? How will the preachers haqve an unction will it be as the Old Testament and the Spirit moves only on certain people for a time? Just some questions that I would like some thoughts on.

I was a pre-trib at one time but now I really do not know what I am concerning escatology. I guess closer to amillennialism now.

We are to watch and pray yes, but how? Look up toward the sky every waking moment (I am not being sarcastic). Is it not the regenerates desire to see Christ as He is and be with Him as the ages roll? Did not one say in the writ I will not be satisfied until I awake in His likeness. That is how I watch and pray, Looking forward to when our redemption is complete in Him and we are with Him. Do I spend everyday every minute looking around every corner for Him? No. I am patiently waiting for the return of my dear Saviour because I believed His word when He said he would return and i look forward anxiously with all my being to see Him face to face. We do not need to lay a yoke of bondage on our fellows in the Way with us by saying we are not doing enough. If all this was by our doing and doing then we would be the worst sort of devils not to go all in and stand on every street corner with all our monies gone to the cause of Christ. We would be living on the streets and having nothing ourselves but everything for the cause. No lights, no food, no shelter, and no family for they take away from the cause.

I am not saying that we will not have good works they were before ordained that we should walk in them. We were predestinated to be conformed like unto Christ.

Are you guys thinking salvation and rapture are the same thing?

No I do not but the way it is put that the faithful bride is the one that is raptured sounds like a seperation of the bride. There is only one bride, one body, one faith, and one baptism, and this all has happened because of one God.