Ooooooh Obama

its not just you

Thanks for sharing this. I like the part where he mentioned the Holy Bible and said blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the sons of God. The audience clapped after he said this as well. I will pray for the president. I will not be critical of everything He does. As the leader of a nation, as well as the world so divided, I can appreciate some of the things he said.

I believe it is so much better for the promotion of the gospel when people will strive to at least be at peace with one another instead of war.

1 Timothy 2:1-4 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Blessings to all!

Very good rbanks,

You have truly shared wisdom which is from above.
Thank you,
lee

in deed we should pray for the leaders, no need to critic them either, its obvius where they stand and what they believe, non the less pray for them.

But we know that when Paul wrote that there where no god fearing man as a ruler those days, and we know God has said.

Daniel 2:21 And He changes the times and the seasons; He removes kings and raises up kings; He gives wisdom to the wise And knowledge to those who have understanding. (Dan 2:21 NKJ)

the most wicked man that ruleth a nation does so because God has put him there, we may not understand why but Gods plan and design of things is beyond our comprehension.

give them the honer that is theirs, respect them and follow what they say if not against gods word, but many make an idol of their leaders hoping to change to the better through them. God alone should be our comfort and hope. Not presidents and kings.

Daniel 4:17 This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men. (Dan 4:17 KJG)

The basest of men God makes kings....

in deed we should pray for the leaders, no need to critic them either, its obvius where they stand and what they believe, non the less pray for them.

Amen!

We should not be shocked when sinners sin and live Godless life styles and make Godless decisions...it is simply what they do.

Pray.

Good Post.

The scary thing is that he is lost, and he thinks he has been saved.

The other problem is you have hirelings like Rick Warren who have propped him up and rather than rebuke him and preach the Gospel to him, Obama has been assured by these hirelings, and other preachers who are more effeminate than men in that they will not stand up and rebuke Obama like John Baptist did to Herod.

repentcanada wrote:
The scary thing is that he is lost, and he thinks he has been saved.

The other problem is you have hirelings like Rick Warren who have propped him up and rather than rebuke him and preach the Gospel to him, Obama has been assured by these hirelings, and other preachers who are more effeminate than men in that they will not stand up and rebuke Obama like John Baptist did to Herod.

well many think they are saved in todays christianity, and we know herod was interested in christianity, he liked hearing john the baptist preach, and the next he enjoyed some woman dancing for him. And so many are today, not just leaders but many christians, we enjoy a good sermon, a good book, radical preaching like john the baptist, then we enjoy also the world and its lusts.

jesus warned against this.

Then He charged them, saying, "Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and the leaven of Herod." (Mar 8:15 NKJ)

we should flee this as we flee being a pharise, mixing the hearing of radical preaching with living worldly and not allow the preaching to change us, so many leaders do and sadly christians, want to hear the word but dont want to change the lives.

God give us grace, go to church hear a good true sermon and go home and watch some worldly thing on tv, this is the leaven of herodians.

Mark 6:20 For Herod feared John, knowing that he was a just man and an holy, and observed him; and when he heard him, he did many things, and heard him gladly. (Mar 6:20 KJV)

a man can be glad to hear the true prophetic preaching of the lord, and yet end up in hell, this is a serius thing, of course it is easy to point uot the president and say this and that, but it is the wrong focus, we should focus on ourselves, Paul never wrote one word about the wicked christian murder that was leader in those days, he knew God will do right, and even tho the leader of that day killed and murdered and persecuted christian, legislated laws making it impossible for christian to live a christian faithful life, yet paul never said something about this, his kingdom was not of this world.

But pray! we are not idle and not caring, but we fight not blood and flesh.... its not obama that is the problem..... nor any other leader in the world. Lets keep focus on the real enemy and fight him and be concerned about the true kingdom that never will end.

God bless all

When I listened to Obama's speech I thought that is a good political speech. He is a politician, wants world peace, especially between Muslims and the Western nations...can't really fault the man. But this whole thing reminded me of the tensions that existed between the USSR and America back in the 1950-1980s, I think. It was called "The Cold War" and ended with Gorbechev at the helm of the USSR.

The Russian premier - in the 1954(?)-1964 - was Khrushchev and he loved to shoot off at the mouth. He came across as being brash and wished to see the demise of the USA and said so. Eventually, he was ousted from office in 1964 - and actually survived this ouster with his head still attached to his body, alive. After his ouster he wrote his memoirs "Khrushchev Remembers" - an interesting book, actually. In reading you finally realized this guy is a human being!

Years later Christians from the USSR said he was a pretty good premier - they had more freedoms then they did for a long time but this came to a halt after his ouster.

What am I saying? Can we always believe what the news media wants us to believe, be it conservative or liberal? Personally, I am coming to the point where I no longer trust 'politics' - the ones we did think that were honorable, are not. It is so easy to become entangled with worldly affairs that we soon get all tied up in knots and forget that we are merely strangers and pilgrims and are looking for a heavenly city wherein dwelleth righteousness. And ya sho ain't gonna see it he-ya!

Blessings,
ginnyrose

ginnyrose wrote:
When I listened to Obama's speech I thought that is a good political speech. He is a politician, wants world peace, especially between Muslims and the Western nations...can't really fault the man.
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Personally, I am coming to the point where I no longer trust 'politics' - the ones we did think that were honorable, are not. It is so easy to become entangled with worldly affairs that we soon get all tied up in knots and forget that we are merely strangers and pilgrims and are looking for a heavenly city wherein dwelleth righteousness. And ya sho ain't gonna see it he-ya!

Blessings,
ginnyrose

Ginnyrose,

I listened to his speech as well and there were definitely things I "HAD" to agree with. You are right, he is a politician and he was such a hard line liberal coming into this Presidency and while listening to his speech at least, I could see and hear that for the sake of peace, some of those hard lines being flip-flopped on!

It was a very thought out speech. The last couple of weeks, this may be just for me and no one else, it seems clear (to me anyway), that we are living in Babylon and he could be Nebuchadnezzar (not that that is a bad thing - study Nebuchadnezzar, he wasn't a bad man!)

I'm babbling but the point I'm trying to make is not to argue if America is Babylon BUT to point out Daniel's behavior and those of his close associates! They didn't defile themselves with the "things" of Babylon; they stayed true to their God while the majority of captives partook of the freedom of "being in captivity." They (the other 49,996 captives) had assimilated into the Babylonian ways, spirit, mind and body.

Daniel and three others did not assimilate and even in the process of not assimilating; they stood by and supported their ruler. How were they able to do this? They were totally submitted to God (spirit, soul, mind, and body); before they submitted to the ruler. We all like to think "I submit to God!" but do we?

All I'm saying is from looking around at how we Christians act, there are not very many 100% submitted Christians (to God), [b]including me[/b]; if we go by the book of Daniel and the rest of the Bible. That's just my two cents!

God bless,

it seems clear (to me anyway), that we are living in Babylon and he could be Nebuchadnezzar (not that that is a bad thing - study Nebuchadnezzar, he wasn't a bad man!)

There are a lot of people who think we are living in the end times. Many are suggesting Muslims will figure predominately in endtime prophecy. (I understand this reasoning.) Forty years ago it was thought it was the Catholics and the pope...

Last Sunday a DVD was shown in our church by Joel Rosenberg, "Epicenter", I think it was titled. He makes the point that we are close to seeing the armies from Gog and Magog descend upon Israel.

After we came home, I checked out Revelation. And this battle is to not occur until the end of Jesus' thousand year reign. Rosenberg referred to OT scriptures, not once the Revelation ones (if I recall), so I am left baffled - wish I could listen to it again. I am now beginning to question all those who are making dire prophecies based on world events that appear to be the fulfillment of prophecy.

In any case, it is back to what does the LORD say although I understand the logic behind people's questions. They are good questions but one must be accurate Biblically. And that means I need to study Revelation, Ezekiel closely to see whether these things are so.

Blessings,
ginnyrose

Ginny,

Your wisdom and experience ... well said, throughout.