By framing the question "[i]should
Grace and peace,
Joe
the question wasn't meant for anything but to get a view from someone on it. I liked his view on it.
No problem,
Thanks for posting this, it's always good to let iron sharpen iron :)
I would say that it has to do with the individual and where they are in their walk. I, too, was separated from t.v. for years now. But I would never say that someone else shouldn't watch t.v. That's the kind of thing which the Lord will deal with a person about and for how long He expects us not to watch it.
My husband and I had not 'watched' TV for over a month. Last night we turned on the news and then watched a show following. We 'used' to think the show was funny. It had nothing for us any longer. Praise Jesus. Keep cleaning us Lord, wash us white as wool.
white stone
yes anytime
NO, we should not. Psalm 101:3 "I will set nothing wicked before mine eyes".
The greatest problem with Tv/movies is the complete abscence of God. People live happy lives and Jesus Christ has been completely eradicated. The tv of yester-years (Cosby, Growing Pains, all the way back to Little House on the Prairie) paved the slippery sloap to the blatant wickedness of today.
I am tired of the attitude toward TV/movies today. You have a prominent preacherlike Mark Driscoll saying that "yeah, thee is alot you can learn from watching Seinfeld" (a blasphemous, liberal, homosexual affirming show).
I am 31 years old, and grew up watching and seeing most of the trash that was available. I pray I completely change that for my children to come, and I pray that God will raise up preachers who will not "drop the ball" like past generations have.
This is the best sermon I have heard on the subject:
The Sorcery of TV (Living in a Dream World): http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=611082038279
We watch TV at our house...wish we did not have the TV, but what I used to think was funny... is funny anymore and no longer watch. My wife is not quite there yet and must allow the holy spirit to change her thoughts on TV. Regrettably we allowed our 5 year old watch a little to much in the past. It was hard in the beginning with kids, you get busy around the house, need to get things down and in order to do that you put them in front of the TV. I am hoping a praying that as a family we can come to an agreement with getting rid of the TV. Not that it is evil, but more than that, its such a distraction and a waste of money every month.
reformer
"you won't go to hell for having a tv, and you won't go to heaven because you don't" --Leonard Ravenhill
Generally speaking, I hate the thing and think Christians should avoid it. Not only is it mostly filthy, but it very quickly becomes an idol and sucks up your time.
The question probably should have been phrased, "Why would a Christian watch TV?"
Old Joe
i agree repent canada
We watch some sporting events, minus commercials. We enjoy football and baseball. I also watch some of the cooking shows to learn some of the tips and recipes, again minus commercials.
I think that anything can be an idol and take over ones time. I know several Christians who think tv is particularly evil but spend ten plus hours a day on the internet, and think that is just fine. I know others who spend huge amounts of time texting and blogging and think nothing of it. For me the question is not so much a should or should not question as it is, how does what I am doing cause me to walk closer to the Lord or further His kingdom. Personally we have had some really wonderful times of fellowshiping and enjoying time together while watching a game or leaning a new recipe. What ever I am doing though I want to have the heart that "if" the Lord told me to give it up, I can and will do so in an instant!
rdg
I have generally been away from TV since the mid to late 80s. I've never paid for it but have a house on the hill that got the networks, 3ABN and 3 channels of TBN with an antennae and a piece of foil before the changeover. But when I watch on my son's pc, I also am amazed how "non-funny" the old shows I used to watch actually are and how I am quite offended by the bulk of the shows I grew up with in the 70s.
Still, I really did like PBS over the air for Lawrence Welk and some of the British dramas or really old Bogart movies...now there's hulu for much of that stuff. As a chef, I really did like the cooking shows but now there's "foodwishes" on youtube...
http://www.biblebelievers.com/The_Stranger.html
We have only been 6 years without one, but before that we went 3 years without it on the Lord's Day. We found that to be the best day of the week and put the TV to the curb.
Old Joe
Oh come on, who are you trying to kid??
We get rid of the T.V., but there is a new type of TV called the Internet. You can practically watch anything on this thing, in fact you can subscribe to any network and watch as if your watching television.
We've just swapped technology for another.
Someone said in response to the threads question, "It all depends on your walk with the Lord".
What's that got to do with anything? We are all using the internet and it's a form of television if not worse because you can readily get the sex sites easily. All the rot and filth is mixed in with the good and holy. Television is nothing compared to this monster. But we use it because it is convenient, and we can proudly say to other believers that we don't watch TV, when in fact we do on the internet, but we file that under the "hush hush" file.
If your conscience is bothering you about watching Television turn it off, but don't throw it out, you'll only end up buying another one down the road. Keep it until the desire for it wanes. As you mature in Christ, these things tend to fall away.
David said, "I've set no evil thing before mine eyes". Well, Davey didn't have a Television to contend with, his girly channel was on the roof top overlooking the community swimming pool.
We have to remember that these men were just as normal as we are, living out their lives like we do. Then the Holy Spirit would at by times come upon these men to do a certain task and then they are back to normal living.
I think David longed for the many things that he spoke of but was unable to obtain it. He believed them but couldn't obtain them. For example, David did set things before his eyes that were evil, and he did speak about hiding that word in his heart that he might not sin against God, but he did sin against God. I believe firmly that David spoke as he was moved by the holy Spirit to write these things down for the One who would come after him to perform all the words that have been spoken through the mouths of the prophets -Jesus the Christ.
Thank you for the thought provoking post. It was a most interesting 'look' at King David.
Kind regards,
white stone
loved it, loved it's truth and I want to ask permission to borrow these bit, if I'm ever called upon to exhort the saints:
David said, "I've set no evil thing before mine eyes". Well, Davey didn't have a Television to contend with, his girly channel was on the roof top overlooking the community swimming pool.
I will preface it by saying a "brother in the Lord said this". ok?
I love David, truly. I love him because he was real with God. After God spoke to Nathan about David's horrendous sin and Nathan confronted David, David didnt even hesitate, he immediately confessed and took the punishment. I also loved his heartstance towards the Lord, "a man after God's own Heart".
I always pray that is how the Lord looks at me, even my secret place, as a man, real and authentic, after His Own Heart.
and Psalm 51 ?!? That, to me, is the "mountaintop" of the whole Psalter! Talk about brokeness, brokenhearteness, repentance, grief over sin, confession.....I could go on and on about King David as well as my other favorite ancient Israeli king Hezekiah...on the first day of his reign, Hezekiah demanded the Temple be cleaned OUT and made fit for Service, and this was a man living in a whole brood of apostates....I'll stop, nice post, my brother, God bless you in Jesus' love, neil
You know the Lord has been working on me to not be spending my time so much on the internet as of late because i do waste a lot of time debating with people who don't want to listen on other sites. I can't stand t.v myself unless it is the way of the master or an occasional good movie on tbn, but i really don't like t.v at all, i don't think god likes it at all either. THe same could be said with the internet but i think the internet has many flaws but also some great pluses as far as information.
DeepThinker wrote:
Oh come on, who are you trying to kid??We get rid of the T.V., but there is a new type of TV called the Internet. You can practically watch anything on this thing, in fact you can subscribe to any network and watch as if your watching television.
DeepThinker wrote:
We've just swapped technology for another.Someone said in response to the threads question, "It all depends on your walk with the Lord".
What's that got to do with anything?
DeepThinker wrote:We are all using the internet and it's a form of television if not worse because you can readily get the sex sites easily.
DeepThinker wrote:All the rot and filth is mixed in with the good and holy. Television is nothing compared to this monster.
DeepThinker wrote:
But we use it because it is convenient, and we can proudly say to other believers that we don't watch TV, when in fact we do on the internet, but we file that under the "hush hush" file.
DeepThinker wrote:If your conscience is bothering you about watching Television turn it off, but don't throw it out, you'll only end up buying another one down the road. Keep it until the desire for it wanes. As you mature in Christ, these things tend to fall away.
DeepThinker wrote:David said, "I've set no evil thing before mine eyes". Well, Davey didn't have a Television to contend with, his girly channel was on the roof top overlooking the community swimming pool.
DeepThinker wrote:We have to remember that these men were just as normal as we are, living out their lives like we do. Then the Holy Spirit would at by times come upon these men to do a certain task and then they are back to normal living.
DeepThinker wrote:I think David longed for the many things that he spoke of but was unable to obtain it. He believed them but couldn't obtain them. For example, David did set things before his eyes that were evil, and he did speak about hiding that word in his heart that he might not sin against God, but he did sin against God.
DeepThinker wrote:I believe firmly that David spoke as he was moved by the holy Spirit to write these things down for the One who would come after him to perform all the words that have been spoken through the mouths of the prophets -Jesus the Christ.
Good thing David took time out from his busy life of sin to write these things down for us. It sure was a blessing! Perhaps we could do similar things if only we weren't all stuck wasting our time in front of the TV.
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