Is healing in the Atonement?

Isaiah 53:4. Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
6. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7. He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
8. He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
9. And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
10. Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
11. He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

God seven redemptive names are still true.

Genesis 22:14 Jehovah Jireh
The Lord will see, or, provide.

Exodus 15:26 Jehovah Rapha
The Lord that healeth thee; or, thy physician.

Exodus 17:15 Jehovah Nissi
The Lord our Banner.

Judges 6:24 Jehovah Shalom
The Lord our Peace.

Psalm 23:1 Jehovah Rohi
The Lord our Shepherd.

Jeremiah 23:6 Jehovah Tsidkenu
The Lord our righteousness.

Ezekiel 48:35 Jehovah Shammah
The Lord is there.

Mal. 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not...

We also have a better covenant. Hebrews 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God
We CAN truly trust his promises just as forgiveness is a promise so is healing (((EVERY TIME)))
Praise the Lord!!!

I disagree that the guarinteed physical bodily healing from all ailments are included in the atonement.
I believe that the word SOZO that means healing: means spiritual\\restorative healing.
I have seen this teaching abused in church because when someone is not physically healed they are just about accused of not having faith or something worse, sin in their life.
I have personally seen people healed, delivered, changed.
I believe God is soverign and can heal who he wants to and choose not to heal when we ask, he is not obligated to heal because he never guarintees us perfect health through all our lives, he wants glory, and he can get glory through how we respond to suffering, trials, and the like. I used to be a big healing in the atonement fan, but years of praying, watching, and studying, I believe God's desire first and foremost is a healed relationship, if we get physical at times too thats great, but remember God chastens those whom he loves and chasening can come through affliction and we grow through these things, If we claim healing without learning then God isnt getting the glory and were not learning anything.
Just my thoughts.

sometimes, but many drugaddicts have been infected with HIV or aids, God saved them but they still had their sickness, sometimes God may heal, sometimes he let us have it, the outcome is the same, salvation, the only complete healing there is is against the sin sickness, there we can go with boldness knowing god died for all my sins, i no longer have to live in them, all adam did fore me, christ undid on the cross and his resurrection.

physical sickness some may be healed of, some may have perfect health til they are 120, some may die in their early 20s , but both had the same faith, the same God, the same power through Christ.

I think it is dangerous saying there is healing for everybody, take Timotheus, he was a man of faith, Paul thought of him higher then all others, yet this great man the Apostle paul told him drink some wine for his stomach, Paul raised people from the dead, what is this small little thing? yet he was told to use some wine, we need to have wisdom and balance in these things.

Some may be healed, some may not, yet they have the same faith in the same God.

The quote was from Isaiah 53:5 uses the Hebrew word rapha' (raw-faw')
to mend (by stitching), i.e. (figuratively) to cure -- cure, (cause to) heal, physician, repair, thoroughly, make whole.
I'm sorry you've seen abuse in your church and that needs correction. I am sure you are aware of the scripture 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

In my haste to post I did not include that there are conditions to healing and I am sorry. So here are the conditions as the word of God has.
1. James 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
So confess your faults just as in salvation.
2. Luke 11:10 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
We must ask.
3. Matthew 9:28 And when he was come into the house, the blind men came to him: and Jesus saith unto them, Believe ye that I am able to do this? They said unto him, Yea, Lord.
Believing that he is able.
4. John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
We know Jesus did the will of the Father so it must be His will. So we should be confident it is Gods will to heal us.
5.Matthew 9:02 And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee.
We must have faith.
6. Luke 4:40 Now when the sun was setting, all they that had any sick with divers diseases brought them unto him; and he laid his hands on every one of them, and healed them.
He healed the "all". No where in the Bible does He reject anyone. I know some will say "Well, God didn't heal Paul's thorn!". I say find out how the terms thorn and buffeted is used in the Bible. You will see it does not pertain to sickness or disease anywhere.

So, now you might think (This rometown guy blames the sick person for not being healed). I say "nay nay" for I blame those who teach that only [u]some[/u] will be healed doctrine. How can one believe if its a shot in the dark and a maybe or a sometimes? Gods word is true and there is no if ands or buts about it. And God is " plenteous in mercy" He also gives the desires of our heart. To be healed is not selfish. Matthew 14:14 And Jesus went forth, and saw a great multitude, and was moved with compassion toward them, and he healed their sick. Is Jesus now without compassion? Is God now without compassion? Is the Holy Spirit now without compassion? Are you willing to change the word shall to might or some times in Mark 16:15 -20? And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17. And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18. They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
19. So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
20. And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.

Just some things to consider!!!

In many places in scripture God healed all people who came to him, but not always

Mar 1:33 And all the city was gathered together at the door.
Mar 1:34 And he healed many that were sick of divers diseases, and cast out many devils; and suffered not the devils to speak, because they knew him.

in this place he healed many, but not all.

I believe God can heal, i have experienced this myself, and i actually prayed and when God answered i was surprised, showing me my unbelief in God but he heard me unbelieving prayer still, he is that good og a God, so i had to repent from my unbelief afterwards i was healed, and other times i have prayed and god has not answered and i had to suffer for some time, the reasons have been many, but i know satan says to some "jump down and God will keep you safe" just as he tempted Jesus himself to jump of the temple, so he is saying to some "do not eat that medicine believe God will heal you" and later they die

Sometimes God does not heal us, even a rightegus man or woman of supernatural faith may be sick and not be healed, maybe just as Paul was sick and had a thorn in the flesh so he would not be puffed up, so God allows some of his most precius saints to be sick somehow so they will not get something worse then sickness and suffering, spiritual pride, Gods goodness can be shown through sickness.

Not in any way saying we should not ask God for healing, i believe in Gods supernatural care for us to a degree many would say i am in extreme, but there is a balance.

I believe we could seek God for healing, for every help we need not just physical, in everything, and be it Goods will we will be healed, if we are not we need ask why and ask God give us grace sufficient for us in that situation, no trial have we encountered Jesus did not encounter. So we can be bold in God in any suffering or sickness we may suffer from, if god allowed it , it will do us eternally good. It did to the apostle Paul, he had more faith then all of us, it did to Timotheus, so it can do for us.

But always pray for the sick, for yourselves, ask for others to pray for you, believe God can do it, according to your faith be it unto you.

But many may be discouraged and angry at God when they do not receive what they prayed for. And to say you will be healed from all sickness every time since your salvation is a sideway leading into heresy and guilt and condemnation for many believers.

It is not our physical sickness that needs healing, it is our inner sickness, what good is a healthy body in hell? what good is a healthy body full of unclean thoughts and lusts and desires to fulfill self? may not be the case for all, but if our focus is on the inward man, we will get a glorified body soon enough, pray for the body to be well so we can do more for Gods glory if it bee his will under a longer period of time, but many holy men of faith, by his grace lived short lives, they burned out for God, many where healed, many healed others, others lay sick in the forests in cold and interceded for the lost in agony and tears and sweet and died before they where 30 years of old with a faith i do not know i could dare have myself.

So i encourage all pray for health, but see to it your main prayer is "health" in the inner man, and your chief desire is to be made whole on the inside. Some of the people who live longest and are the most healthy are the ungodliness people ever to walk this earth.

Balance brethren and sisters

God bless you and heal you all

It is not our physical sickness that needs healing, it is our inner sickness, what good is a healthy body in hell? what good is a healthy body full of unclean thoughts and lusts and desires to fulfill self?

in this place he healed many, but not all.

Paul's thorn is not sickness or disease as most teach. Let's go to God's Word.
Numbers 33:55 But if ye will not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you; then it shall come to pass, that those which ye let remain of them shall be pricks in your eyes, and thorns in your sides, and shall vex you in the land wherein ye dwell.
Joshua 23:13 Know for a certainty that the Lord your God will no more drive out any of these nations from before you; but they shall be snares and traps unto you, and scourges in your sides, and thorns in your eyes, until ye perish from off this good land which the Lord your God hath given you.
Judges 2:3 Wherefore I also said, I will not drive them out from before you; but they shall be as thorns in your sides, and their gods shall be a snare unto you.
Paul was well versed in the Old Testament and maybe quoting as he often did. It does seem odd that he besought the Lord thrice and as verse 14 says "the third time I am ready to come to you" The term buffeted has an interesting meaning To affect as with blows; to strike repeatedly; to strive with or contend against; as, to buffet the billows. These contentions against the church maybe? We may not no for sure but we can say there is no contradictions in the Word of God.

Another question. Would you as a person be more offended that you couldn't help some one or that you wouldn't help them? But know this God is able and very willing. Don't believe me, believe the word of God.
Malachi 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
Jeremiah 17:14 Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; save me, and I shall be saved: for thou art my praise.

Isaiah 53:5 is very clear. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed

what i think you are wrong is you have to find most of your verses in the OT to support your doctrine, there was healing in the old covenant, but we are in the new and yes there still are healing today, and still in the context i see no other thing then Pauls thorn was a physical suffering to keep him humble. For Pauls eternal best, that is what we all want, not the best right now, if it meen sickness, poverty, lonliness, persecution, if God allowed it i can thank him in all circumstances.

And God can be glorified in healing and in sickness, it depends on how you view God and his dealings with men

Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
Romans 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
Galatians 2:6 But of these who seemed to be somewhat, (whatsoever they were, it maketh no matter to me: God accepteth no man's person:) for they who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing to me:
Ephesians 6:9 And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.
Colossians 3:25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.
1 Peter 1:17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:

If Jesus healed some but not all that had the right heart and teaching He would be against his own word.

Acts 4:30 By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus.

Acts 28:27 For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

1 John 2:7-8 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.
8. Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.