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Proverbs 25:23

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ginnyrose Nov 9, 2009

Is there a Hebrew scholar here on SI that give me an accurate translation/interpretation of this verse?

I have checked the web and come up with conflicting interpretations.

Our Sunday School lesson next Sunday is taken from Proverbs 25:11-28 and it is titled "Cultivating Noble Friendships". I have to teach the adult women's class and this verse baffles me to no end.

Thanks!

ginnyrose

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hmmhmm Nov 9, 2009

you may find something here----> [url=http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=25&t=NKJV#conc/23[/url] edit: just press the verse you are interested in and there are numerous options to study further.

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TaylorOtwell Nov 9, 2009

I'm not a Hebrew scholar myself, but I know John Gill was regarded as one of the premier Hebrew scholars of his age. You may want to check his commentary on the verse and see if it is helpful.

Online here: www.freegrace.net/gill

Or, it is also available as a free add-on for e-Sword.

With care in Christ...

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ginnyrose Nov 9, 2009

Thank-you, Christian and Taylor.

I did find this and it is beginning to make sense:
"an angry countenance - a backbiting tongue; drives it away, discourages and silences it. When a man puts on a stern countenance, a frowning and angry look, on such who bring him slanderous reports and idle tales of their neighbours, and reproach and backbite them, it checks them, and puts a stop to their practices; whereas listening to them, and especially with an air of pleasure, encourages them in them; were there not so many that take pleasure in hearing those talebearers and backbiters, were they more roughly dealt with, as the blustering north wind does with the rain, there would not be so much of this evil practised.."

This concept runs counter to what one might consider proper. That must have been the mental block that kept me from understanding this interpretation.

Thanks again so kindly, brothers. I appreciate it.

ginnyrose

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hmmhmm Nov 10, 2009

i guess it depends on what version one is using :-) i liked the nkjv rendering.... not that the KJV with your interpretation was wrong.

if you ever seen a hebrew/english interlinear then you know those translators have no easy task!

Pro 25:23\tThe north wind brings forth rain, And a backbiting tongue an angry countenance.

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ginnyrose Nov 10, 2009

if you ever seen a Hebrew/English interlinear then you know those translators have no easy task!

This I do not doubt!

We have a NT interlinear but that is Greek. We also have a Strong's and that Hebrew...!!! Looks like chicken scratches! Makes about as much sense as going to the chicken house and observing the chicken scratches and declare they mean something! According to my DH's nephew those marks actually say [i]something[/i]! At the moment I have no interest in learning Hebrew or Greek...whenever you hear these scholars discuss it, it makes me weary...think I will do do something else - washing dishes sounds more fun then working to decipher marks... :-(

Blessings,
ginnyrose

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enid Nov 10, 2009

Yes Ginnyrose,

I'm all for doing the dishes!

But seriously, when we are told in Proverbs 15v1, "A soft answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger.", it most certainly does.

Slow to speak, swift to hear.

God bless.

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ginnyrose Nov 10, 2009

But seriously, when we are told in Proverbs 15v1, "A soft answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger.",

It is this verse that kept me from understanding the verse in question.

So, apparently, when one detects an unedifying tale coming on, one can easily put on a scowl to deter it from being said. It is true that a talebearer does not want to speak when he/she feels he does not have a receptive audience. Now if that won't work...wonder if Proverbs would have a verse to give insight on this scenario?

The challenge to know when something is true and essential or whether it is frivolous gets to be tough. There was a point in time when I simply refused to listen when certain folks said something negative because I felt they were unnecessary negative and critical. And they were. In the process they were sharing info I needed to know but because of their past and attitude I shut my mind to them. Well, would you know, in time we got 'hurt' by some and if we had listened maybe it could have been avoided?

When do I listen and consider? or when do I put on my scowling face?

ginnyrose

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