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No Mr. President - John Piper's Response to President Obama on Abortion

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AbideinHim Nov 11, 2009

http://bit.ly/2a0qDt

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IWantAnguish Nov 11, 2009

Obama is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

sermonindex Nov 11, 2009

What sheep's clothing? He's just a wolf. He's never tried to hide who he is. People just decided they did not care... and now we have to pay for that.

Krispy

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Miccah Nov 11, 2009

wow. I am going to download his full sermon.

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Laviver Nov 11, 2009

Obama is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

What sheep's clothing? He's just a wolf.

Brothers let us not miss the point of this message by Piper to pray for our President. For "there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God...render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due, customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor." Ro.13:1-7

and

"1 Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, 2 for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence. 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth." 2 Tim. 1:4

Notice also the giving of thanks be made for kings and all who are in authority for they are chosen of God to work His purposes on earth and thereby they reflect His wisdom and glory, though we may not understand it now. It's like the looking at all the dots of a Monet and not being able to see the whole masterpiece.

sermonindex Nov 12, 2009

Prayer must be made for the U.S. President.

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TaylorOtwell Nov 12, 2009

Very powerful!

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IWantAnguish Nov 12, 2009

I will submit under this President until he commands us to act contrary to the revealed will of God.

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White_Stone Nov 12, 2009

I will submit under this President until he commands us to act contrary to the revealed will of God.

It is my understanding that he does this already in his stance on Marriage and Abortion.

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IWantAnguish Nov 12, 2009

It is my understanding that he does this already in his stance on Marriage and Abortion.

My sentiments exactly.

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Laviver Nov 12, 2009

Technically, President Obama has not commanded any of us to disobey God by his stances on marriage and abortion.

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White_Stone Nov 12, 2009

His health care will have abortions paid for by taxpayer money.

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Laviver Nov 12, 2009


White_Stone wrote:
His health care will have abortions paid for by taxpayer money.

Actually it won't. See article:

http://www.frc.org/pressrelease/family-research-council-praises-passage-of-pro-life-amendment-to-health-care-bill

And in any case it hasn't yet so Christians don't need to prematurely throw their 'just rebellion' card yet. It usually seems we are all to eager to fight against 'the system.' If we spent nearly as much time praying (or even putting some works to that faith by running for political positions) for the President and Congress, as opposed to eating up every news story and holy grumbling about it, things might be different?

I think our negativity towards government and speed to which we jump to conclusions reveals the conditions of hearts: we are nowhere near the aformentioned things laid out by Paul in Romans and Timothy.

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IWantAnguish Nov 12, 2009

Forgive me if I'm eager for the final empire to rise and Christ to come as the uncut stone and smash it to pieces and usher in His Kingdom.

:-P

Even now... Lord come quickly!

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Laviver Nov 12, 2009


IWantAnguish wrote:
Forgive me if I'm eager for the final empire to rise and Christ to come as the uncut stone and smash it to pieces and usher in His Kingdom.

:-P

Even now... Lord come quickly!

Indeed, I share your sentiments, yet let us be careful to steward our hearts and prayers as our Lord has prescribed until His blessed return.

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IWantAnguish Nov 12, 2009

Aye. For this struggle in this life is but for a moment... and then we shall pass into eternal glory.

Oh the anticipation!

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