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The danger of Santa Claus by John MacArthur

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tjservant Nov 27, 2009

The danger of Santa Claus by John MacArthur

What a false, fake substitute the world puts forth at this time [Christmas 1990] for that true message. Do you remember these words?

"You better watch out. You better not cry. You better not pout. I'm telling you why; Santa Claus is coming to town. He's making a list and he's checking it twice; gonna find out whose naughty and nice. Santa Claus is coming to town. He sees you when you're sleeping; he knows when you're awake. He knows if you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness sakes. You better watch out. You better not cry. You better not pout. I'm telling you why; Santa Claus is coming to town."

Now does that threaten you? That is a very threatening poem. That is intended to scare children. Now listen, if you look at the letters of Santa, you will see that Satan is hidden in Santa. When we teach a child to sing this song, we are teaching him a false theology. We are teaching him a false set of doctrine. Let me see if I can explain it to you.

First, that song teaches that Santa is a transcendent being. He lives on a higher plane. He lives on another level. He transcends time and space. He has powers equal to whom? God! Not only that, he knows everything. He's omniscient. "He knows when you're sleeping. He knows when you're awake. He knows when you're naughty. He knows when you're nice." He knows everything.

Not only that, he's everywhere. "He sees you when you're sleeping." He's not only omniscient, he's omnipresent. And he is watching to see whether you have been good or bad. And not only that, but he bestows favors. Now on what basis does Santa give his favors? What must I do to receive good things from this transcendent being, called Santa. Well it is very simple, I have to be what? Good. I can "earn" Santa's favor. If I am good, Santa will give me gifts. After all, he's making a list and he is checking it twice to make sure that we've been either naughty of nice. And on the basis on how we've been, he'll deal with us.

And if I'm not nice and good, I won't get any gifts. So I better be good for goodness sake, not to mention for my own sake or anybody else's sake. But do you want to know something about Santa? He may be transcendent, and he may be omniscient, and he may be omnipotent, and he may be omnipresent. He may be dispensing all of the good things, but you know what? You can't trust him. You can't trust him. You say, "What do you mean by that?"

It says, "He's checking to see if you are naughty or nice." And you better be good for goodness sake, because if you aren't good, you won't what? You won't get anything. You want to know something? That's not true. Plenty of times I haven't been good and I get something anyway. Every year I get something. And you want to know the truth of it? There are a lot of naughty people that get a lot and there are a lot of nice people that don't get anything.

Do you know what about Santa Claus? You can't trust him. He doesn't even stay true to his own word. He's blustering around and warning everybody to mind your manners and be good all the time; be nice and not naughty and good and not bad. And then you know what? When Christmas comes he caves in, and even when we have been naughty he gives us all that stuff. And sometimes he overlooks people that are nice. He really can't be trusted. His threats are meaningless and so are his promises. But that's good because it takes the sting out of him. And there is another good thing about Santa; you only have to worry about him once a year. He only shows up once and you know when it is; it's always on Dec 25th, so you can get your act together just a few days before. You say, "Well where is he the rest of the time?" Oh, he's in the North Pole. Could that be heaven in Satan's little scheme? "What's he doing?" Oh, he has all these elfs around him. "What are they doing?" Whatever he tells them.

Mostly, meaningless things like make toys. He is sort of inane isn't he? He threatens but never fulfills his threats. He promises but doesn't always fulfill his promises.

Is it any wonder that if I believe all that as a child, when I come to be an adult, I might have a hard time believing in a Transcendent God who does know everything, who is everywhere, who does have all power, who does keep his promises and his threats, and who does not save me and give me good gifts on the basis of my works but on the basis of His grace. If Santa has been my understanding of God, then I am in trouble. That's why I say, hidden in the letters of Santa is Satan.

I am glad for a God who is absolutely dependable. I can trust His promises. I can trust His threats. He is everywhere at all times and He doesn't just show up once a year. He is here all of the time. And He gives His great gift, not on the basis of our works but on the basis of His grace through faith.

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wayneman Nov 28, 2009

Now does that threaten you? That is a very threatening poem. That is intended to scare children. Now listen, if you look at the letters of Santa, you will see that Satan is hidden in Santa. When we teach a child to sing this song, we are teaching him a false theology. We are teaching him a false set of doctrine. Let me see if I can explain it to you.

There is something fishy about this article. It doesn't sound like John MacArthur. He writes better than this, and he doesn't seem like the sort of person who would find theological significance in the Satan-Santa anagram.

sermonindex Nov 28, 2009


Big Deal!

I remember my Dad used to have such hang ups at Christmas. Every Christmas was a miserable time of the year because of his miserable convictions that he pushed on us.

Now that he's dead, we have the full regalia and enjoy it all giving thanks to our LORD for a fun filled time of the year.

Merry Christmas

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tjservant Nov 28, 2009

There is something fishy about this article. It doesn't sound like John MacArthur. He writes better than this, and he doesn't seem like the sort of person who would find theological significance in the Satan-Santa anagram.

I found it in the John MacArthur section here on SI. Not saying that proves anything, just letting you know.

As for the Santa-satan thing, I have actually heard him mention it during interviews concerning Christmas. He says his family enjoys the holidays but he makes it clear there is no Santa Claus included.

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tjservant Nov 28, 2009


DeepThinker wrote:

Big Deal!

I remember my Dad used to have such hang ups at Christmas. Every Christmas was a miserable time of the year because of his miserable convictions that he pushed on us.

Now that he's dead, we have the full regalia and enjoy it all giving thanks to our LORD for a fun filled time of the year.

Merry Christmas


I am glad you are now able to celebrate Christmas as you see fit.

As for me, the opposite has been the case.

An unrealistic fantasyland was passed off as reality in my home when I was a child. Secular and sacred were blended so as to present a perversion of Christianity.

I felt lied to, manipulated, and betrayed.

My family and I are now thrilled to be embracing a Christmas without any elements of fantasy included.

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Miccah Nov 28, 2009

Bahhh, humbug! :-P 8-) :-)

sermonindex Nov 28, 2009

funny I stumbled on this. My wife and I do not see eye to eye on this. I went along with this about 3 years ago..the whole santa thing. But lately I am so against it. My son is six now and I want to tell him, my wife feels like it is a tradition passed on from her childhood as well as mine too. My family didn't follow Christ and hers either. Now I could careless about having a tree and stockings. It is a real struggle. My son has been lying lately, we have told him not too, but then I realize we are lying too about santa. Hypocrites! How to tell him...how to have peace in the home!:(

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HeartSong Nov 28, 2009

reformer wrote:
. . . but then I realize we are lying too about santa. Hypocrites! How to tell him...how to have peace in the home!:(

Pray. Ask the Lord to show you the way.

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Miccah Nov 28, 2009


reformer wrote:



but then I realize we are lying too about santa. Hypocrites!


I agree completely. Our 4 little ones are all under 6 years old, and they all know that there is no santa. Christmas is a celebration of Christ in our home.

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Heydave Nov 28, 2009

I completely agree with this article. We have never had anything to do Santa in our family Christmas. It is just a fantasy and a lie to your children. What ever you think of the origins of Santa, he is a substitue for the the real giver of all we have, the true and living LORD God. Do you want your children to thank God or Satan (I mean Santa)? I find it amazing that Christians, who would otherwise have nothing to do with magic, fantasy, elfs, fairies etc will go along with the whole Santa fantasy because of Christmas.

We have a great family christmas and have much fun and enjoyment without feeling the need for the pagan and conflicting fantasies that the world takes on.

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WayneNBec Nov 28, 2009

My husband and I have also been questioning the wisdom of celebrating Christmas with all the secular trimmings. Although we don't have any children yet we have decided that if we do we would not want them to grow up believing a lie (santa).
One other thing that I find disturbing at Christmas are carols. Don't get me wrong, I love the music, but something feels wrong singing about "baby Jesus" when we know very well that he is no longer a baby. It seems pointless celebrating his birthday one day a year when we should be preparing for his return. :-D

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Leo_Grace Nov 28, 2009

[size=x-large][b][color=CC3300]Christmas should be all about Christ![/color][/b][/size]

[i]Isa 9:6-7

"For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called Wonderful Counselor,
Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Of the increase of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David’s throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it with justice
and righteousness
from that time on and forever.
The zeal of the LORD Almighty
will accomplish this."[/i]

I have three children who grew up without any Santa in their lives. For us, Christmas has always been and always will be a celebration of God's love for us. There is a benefit in being truthful with the kids early about this. Rather than losing a fictitious part of their childhood, they gain a precious truth about God, and a greater trust for their parents; for they will see that they were told the truth about Christmas while other kids were not.

sermonindex Nov 28, 2009

Now I could careless about having a tree and stockings.
You have to be absolutely clear in your own mind brother of what that tree means to you.

We had all the education on it from Jeremiah, and the even the origins of the sun god. But the meanings have all been changed down through time. Christ was born and the story surrounds it during this time. I was told that more people come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ during this time of the year then any time (excluding world crusades). It's also a very lonely time of the year for many people.

Instead of getting all miserable about it. Take a corner of your living room and dedicate that part during the holiday season with the manger scene. And have a Star dangle from the ceiling. Get that impression in your children, and tell your children the true meaning of Christmas. Don't make their lives miserable because of your inability to make a decision.

Explain to your children about what is sacred and what is profane, and make sure the wife is there by your side in complete agreement. You and her need to understand that your leaving an impression of confusion on your children and your provoking them to anger. Make this a joyous time for them without the lies about Santa but the true meaning of Christmas.

If they know anything about God, they will understand that Santa is not the name of God and he cannot see me while I am sleeping, or even knows if I am bad or good.

Now listen to this conversation in school:

Hey Johnny, what did you get for Christmas?

Oh I didn't get nothing, my Dad doesn't believe in Christmas.

Oh, doesn't he believe in God?

Yeah, he believes in God but doesn't believe in Christmas.

Hey, that's a bit confusing. You say, he believes in God, but doesn't believe in Christmas, that doesn't make any sense.

(anger is now setting in, a lack of respect for Dad is now being exhibited because he doesn't know how to answer for his Dad's belief, because he doesn't understand either)

Now if you homeschool your children then your in a better place, but if your kids go to a public school your setting them up for some hard times.

sermonindex Nov 28, 2009


DeepThinker wrote:
Now I could careless about having a tree and stockings.
You have to be absolutely clear in your own mind brother of what that tree means to you.

We had all the education on it from Jeremiah, and the even the origins of the sun god. But the meanings have all been changed down through time. Christ was born and the story surrounds it during this time. I was told that more people come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ during this time of the year then any time (excluding world crusades). It's also a very lonely time of the year for many people.

Instead of getting all miserable about it. Take a corner of your living room and dedicate that part during the holiday season with the manger scene. And have a Star dangle from the ceiling. Get that impression in your children, and tell your children the true meaning of Christmas. Don't make their lives miserable because of your inability to make a decision.

Explain to your children about what is sacred and what is profane, and make sure the wife is there by your side in complete agreement. You and her need to understand that your leaving an impression of confusion on your children and your provoking them to anger. Make this a joyous time for them without the lies about Santa but the true meaning of Christmas.

If they know anything about God, they will understand that Santa is not the name of God and he cannot see me while I am sleeping, or even knows if I am bad or good.

Now listen to this conversation in school:

Hey Johnny, what did you get for Christmas?

Oh I didn't get nothing, my Dad doesn't believe in Christmas.

Oh, doesn't he believe in God?

Yeah, he believes in God but doesn't believe in Christmas.

Hey, that's a bit confusing. You say, he believes in God, but doesn't believe in Christmas, that doesn't make any sense.

(anger is now setting in, a lack of respect for Dad is now being exhibited because he doesn't know how to answer for his Dad's belief, because he doesn't understand either)

Now if you homeschool your children then your in a better place, but if your kids go to a public school your setting them up for some hard times.

Thanks for the advice...great idea's! I do enjoy this time of year, I enjoy Christmas.. I have learned some knew things about this time of year, it has been revealing. I just want my boys to understand that santa is not real, and Christ is the reason we celebrate it. Just feel a bit guilty about going on long with the story about santa. I feel i should have done it earlier...I may wait till after christmas.

I do love the idea about setting up a manger in the house...Great idea...encouraged me a lot...thanks!

blessings
Mike (reformer)

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hmmhmm Nov 28, 2009

edit: wrong thread :-) one would think after many posts i would have got how it all works by now....

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Anastasis Nov 28, 2009

Brother hmmhmm, I think you got off on the wrong exit. ;-)

My dad never taught us Santa Claus; he's never really cared about it, and I'm truthfully thankful for it, though it always drove me crazy that the other kids never got it. I think in the back of my mind was, "How can parents tell their kids that this is real when it's not?"

My first thought on the article was that he was taking it too far, but then again, he's probably right. in that regard, I think his arguments speak for themselves. I wonder if somewhere down the line when a child thinks of God he thinks of Santa for the reasons mentioend there, and thus the idea of God becomes equally ridiculous.

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hmmhmm Nov 28, 2009


Anastasis wrote:
Brother hmmhmm, I think you got off on the wrong exit. ;-)

My dad never taught us Santa Claus; he's never really cared about it, and I'm truthfully thankful for it, though it always drove me crazy that the other kids never got it. I think in the back of my mind was, "How can parents tell their kids that this is real when it's not?"

My first thought on the article was that he was taking it too far, but then again, he's probably right. in that regard, I think his arguments speak for themselves. I wonder if somewhere down the line when a child thinks of God he thinks of Santa for the reasons mentioend there, and thus the idea of God becomes equally ridiculous.


i think i did :-)

as for santa claus i think there is much that can give us a cause to be worried, but on the other hand one must settle for them selves, its easy for someone to judge someone else that have trees and lights and santas as not spiritual, but on the other hand they may have that freedom to do so. Myself is very against all this stuff, to me its a "unreality" its not real and we should as christians i am convinced who know the real reality contarary to most people alive today. But in my house we are more then me, and all else LOVE christmas, trees and santas and they cant imagine christmas without it, so i could go on a hunt and throw all this garbage out, that is what it is to me, i could quote scriptures and so on, i have a bit :-) but i have learned through experience it is GOD who must open peoples eyes to see.

and when he does they see. One example is jehovas witnesses dont celebrate christmas, yet they are spiritually dead. So one can see the errors in christmas and every other thing man lifts up as wrong, and may be right and yet dont know God.

Myself rejoice in the fact i can see my wife do a lot of things in the house, that makes her feel better, she likes to change curtains and to my annoyance ( i suspect ) put small santas all over the house, she does so much and work very hard to make it a time of joy for the family, in that i feel very blessed, i love to see my children get excited, and i enjoy the small ones tip over the chritmas tree to moms horror :-P and to see them rejoice in presents and the food i like and so on, its very nice, but i am convinced.... all this one can have without the "vanity" in the Lord togheter .

But so far that is my conviction and the rest have not come that far, but maybe they will one day until then i will keep praying and loving my christmas crazy loved ones.

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JS Nov 28, 2009

I believe MacArthur has the right to be concerned. MacArthur's commentary on "Santa Claus is Coming to Town" is thought-provoking, and if he felt led by the LORD to speak on that, then I'm glad he did. Really now- isn't that just a bit curious, the lyrics of that song?

[i]"He's making a list and he's checking it twice; gonna find out whose naughty and nice."[/i]

No, I don't think Santa is an anagram for Satan; it seems more like a conjugation of the word "saint." However,I do think people place too much emphasis on him.

sermonindex Nov 28, 2009

But in my house we are more then me, and all else LOVE christmas, trees and santas and they cant imagine christmas without it, so i could go on a hunt and throw all this garbage out, that is what it is to me, i could quote scriptures and so on, i have a bit but i have learned through experience it is GOD who must open peoples eyes to see.

Well said HmmHmm...thanks for saying what you said. You made a great point...I can not expect my convictions to be there's. It took me sometime to come to this, I must be patient with my wife and let your come to her own conclusions. Sometimes I can be so thick in the head...thinking I am doing the spiritual thing by quoting scripture..When all I am doing is the opposite. Sure wish wisdom would come more before you stumble and fall, than after! :-)

sermonindex Nov 28, 2009

Mother never taught us that there was a Santa Claus. She being a God fearing woman would not. However, she didn't discourage us either. When Santa was visiting our school, I was perplexed as to what to say to ask him. I can see her standing there by the sink reluctantly telling me to just ask for a book and a toy car something of that nature.

You see, our family as backwards as it was and misfits as we were, we believed in God and Jesus Christ was our Saviour. We really had no time to think about Santa. Mother would tell us bible stories and we believed that over Santa, even though he'd come around once a year. Our minds were not on that. It never entered our minds that Santa was real, we were not let down when we found out he wasn't real, we just didn't have our faith in him. We'd ask him but for some strange reason we just didn't believe that he was going to come through with anything we asked for. The God that Mother was telling us about was more important to hold onto then Santa. And I am sure Mother prayed for us.

Just as a side note, does anyone have a cat that lays on your arms while typing? Man alive this things heavy! :-?

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