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scripture and context - I'm confused!

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MeiLi Dec 7, 2009

Dear Saints,
today I stumbled over Romans 15:21

20It has always been my ambition to preach the gospel where Christ was not known, so that I would not be building on someone else's foundation. 21Rather, as it is written:
"Those who were not told about him will see,
and those who have not heard will understand."

In my understanding Isaiah 52:15 speaks about the future salvation through Christ for the Gentiles . Now if I would look at the context here in Paul's letter it seems like he's "twisting" the scripture and adds a new meaning to it with quoting it to explain the idea of not going to places where Christ has already been preached. It reminded me of picking scriptures out of contect to proof one's point. Just how some christians nowadays love to do.
Please let me make clear that I do NOT intend to accuse Paul of doing the same. Looking at scripture in its context just became exceedingly important to me and I just don't understand why this verses bother me A LOT today. Well, it might sound like a silly question but I somehow kept thinking about this all day long. Please help me to find my error in reasoning.
in Christ,
MeiLi

sermonindex Dec 7, 2009

Look at the verses before and after those which you quoted:

15 Nevertheless, brethren, I have written the more boldly unto you in some sort, as putting you in mind, because of the grace that is given to me of God, 16 that I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

17 I have therefore whereof I may glory through Jesus Christ in those things which pertain to God. 18 [u]For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me[/u], to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed, 19 through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.

20 Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man's foundation: 21 but as it is written, To whom he was not spoken of, they shall see: and they that have not heard shall understand. 22 For which cause also I have been much hindered from coming to you. 23 But now having no more place in these parts, and having a great desire these many years to come unto you; 24 whensoever I take my journey into Spain, I will come to you: for I trust to see you in my journey, and to be brought on my way thitherward by you, if first I be somewhat filled with your [i]company[/i]. 25 But now I go unto Jerusalem to minister unto the saints. 26 For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem.


Remember that Paul is being very careful within his own ministry, to respect other brethren, many of whom were born again long before him. Likewise, although he could feel justified in being supported by the churches, he prefers to earn his own way, so that no-one can resent him during his long stays to teach in various places (1 Cor 9). I think in these ways he shows his real change of heart.

In mentioning Isaiah's prophecy about the Gentiles being saved, I believe he is quoting it here to explain that he is part of the fulfilment of that prophecy. We know that Peter was first to speak to the Gentiles (Acts 10), but Paul knew God had called him specifically to preach to Gentiles, Jews and kings (Acts 9).


Recently, I came across the verse where God seems to be saying specifically, for the first time, that as a punishment for Israel's waywardness, He is going to make Israel [u]unable[/u] to see or hear - Isaiah 29:10. Consequently, it is less of a surprise when He starts to promise vision and hearing to the Gentiles.

Are these thoughts in any way helpful?

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InTheLight Dec 7, 2009

I think Paul quoted the Isaiah verse simply to demonstrate the principle on which he ministered as an Apostle. Paul saw himself as an instrument through which the prophets words were being fulfilled, and indeed he was.


In Christ,

Ron

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twayneb Dec 7, 2009

I would have to agreed with Alive-to-God. Christ was not known among the gentiles. The twelve apostles, and others, were sent specifically to the Hebrews. If you follow their ministries, you find they were all over the world, but always preaching Christ to those of the house of Israel. Israel had heard of Christ through the law and prophets for centuries, although most rejected Jesus as the Christ. But the gentiles, those who had not heard, those who were not told, were now seeing and understanding through Paul's ministry.

Hope that helps.

sermonindex Dec 8, 2009

If you follow their ministries, you find they were all over the world, but always preaching Christ to those of the house of Israel.
Amen! That is where the lost house of Israel were to be found, in all the world, to draw out the remnant such as should be saved.

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