Is there a King James version..just minus the Thee's & Thou's?

I don't know if there is, but, the use of Thee, Thou etc, ye and you, enables the reader to distinguish exactly when the writer is speaking to, or about, the singular or plural.

I recommend you check out Ron Bailey's www.biblebase.com, and find his helpful information sheet on how to understand them, rather than that you dispense with them.

:-)

I had an afterthought about the matter of KJV over other versions, which is, if we factor in that 'James' is the Anglicisation of JACOB, how many people would make more effort to read it just once (at least) if it were commonly known as

'King Jacob's Authorised Version'?

Now, in so commenting, I am not making claims for the Christian testimony, (or, notions of 'the divine right of kings') of King James (Jacob), I (of England) & VI (of Scotland), but he seems to have been God's man for the English speaking nations, at that time on earth, to establish that it is okay to have the word of God in one's own language, which of course, is how it was originally written. On the other hand, perhaps the [i]vernacular - James -[/i] of an overtly Jewish name, did in fact, give the translation even wider acceptance.

If you truly understood WHY the "thees, thous and ye's" are in there you would not want to remove them... you would embrace them

In most of England, at the time the KJV came about, for the most part the people did not speak with these words. It had already faded out. The English language had evolved to the point where it really was not a whole lot different than it is now. There were pockets of England where they were still used these phrasings to a small extent, but generally it was not so.

The translators chose to use those words. And for good reason. I would recommend you go dig and study... and find out why.

Krispy

I enjoy the King James very much and when you read the "ye" I just read it as "you". You'll get the hang of it after a while. However, I have often thought to do up a personal copy of the bible without these.

The verb "eth" has been removed from the New King James and other so called translations. This is a very important verb and it should carry the same weight when translating into our common vernacular. For example.

John 3:16 could read.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever [continually] believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

I've used the word "continually" as this is what is meant for the verb "eth". It's to Persistently, Habitually, believe, not just "believes" as the other translations say. In saying just believe really weakens the commandments when it says to "Love the LORD your God and CLING to Him". This is what it means to "believeth" in Jesus. It's to throw ourselves at the mercy seat, which is Christ.

Eventually through time, the English language will evolve into different patterns of speech. In 500 years it will be even harder to decipher the King James Version or anything English for that matter.

I would like to see our generation read the King James bible without the poetic Elizabethan pronouns and changing none of the other words as there is absolutely nothing wrong with them. Preserving the King James version to me is like preserving the memory of William Tyndale who was martyred for translating the bible into English, we must tread carefully.

I don't know about the Message but ummmm.... I will tough it out and go down the narrow path and accept the Thee's and thou's. I will not be intimidated! =)

God created the Heavens and Earth—all you see, all you don't see. Earth was a soup of nothingness, a bottomless emptiness, an inky blackness. God's Spirit brooded like a bird above the watery abyss. 3-5 God spoke: "Light!" And light appeared. God saw that light was good and separated light from dark. God named the light Day, he named the dark Night. It was evening, it was morning— Day One. 6-8 God spoke: "Sky! In the middle of the waters; separate water from water!" God made sky. He separated the water under sky from the water above sky. And there it was: he named sky the Heavens; It was evening, it was morning— Day Two. 9-10 God spoke: "Separate! Water-beneath-Heaven, gather into one place; Land, appear!" And there it was. God named the land Earth. He named the pooled water Ocean. God saw that it was good. 11-13 God spoke: "Earth, green up! Grow all varieties of seed-bearing plants, Every sort of fruit-bearing tree." And there it was. Earth produced green seed-bearing plants, all varieties, And fruit-bearing trees of all sorts. God saw that it was good. It was evening, it was morning— Day Three. 14-15 God spoke: "Lights! Come out! Shine in Heaven's sky! Separate Day from Night. Mark seasons and days and years, Lights in Heaven's sky to give light to Earth." And there it was. 16-19 God made two big lights, the larger to take charge of Day, The smaller to be in charge of Night; and he made the stars. God placed them in the heavenly sky to light up Earth And oversee Day and Night, to separate light and dark. God saw that it was good. It was evening, it was morning— Day Four. 20-23 God spoke: "Swarm, Ocean, with fish and all sea life! Birds, fly through the sky over Earth!" God created the huge whales, all the swarm of life in the waters, And every kind and species of flying birds. God saw that it was good. God blessed them: "Prosper! Reproduce! Fill Ocean! Birds, reproduce on Earth!" It was evening, it was morning— Day Five. 24-25 God spoke: "Earth, generate life! Every sort and kind: cattle and reptiles and wild animals—all kinds." And there it was: wild animals of every kind, Cattle of all kinds, every sort of reptile and bug. God saw that it was good. 26-28 God spoke: "Let us make human beings in our image, make them reflecting our nature So they can be responsible for the fish in the sea, the birds in the air, the cattle, And, yes, Earth itself, and every animal that moves on the face of Earth." God created human beings; he created them godlike, Reflecting God's nature. He created them male and female. God blessed them: "Prosper! Reproduce! Fill Earth! Take charge! Be responsible for fish in the sea and birds in the air, for every living thing that moves on the face of Earth." 29-30 Then God said, "I've given you every sort of seed-bearing plant on Earth And every kind of fruit-bearing tree, given them to you for food. To all animals and all birds, everything that moves and breathes, I give whatever grows out of the ground for food." And there it was. 31 God looked over everything he had made; it was so good, so very good! It was evening, it was morning— Day Six.