Ken Peter's Dream

I am unable to watch Ken Peter's prophetic dream which he had in the early 80's seeing as Youtube removed it for their own reasons.

I can order it via The Prophecy Club, but was wondering if someone is willing to share it with me because they are charging a rather large sum of 30.00 for it there.

I am not here to argue about whether or not he is false, I can imagine something is valuable on it if they don't want it viewed, and I'd like to make copies before it disappears altogether.

Thanks brethren for any help.

Kathleen

Well, had a brother suggest a site to watch it on, and it has disappeared from there also. If need be, I will order it, as I think these sort of things will happen more frequently.

Blessings, Kathleen

I checked out this video on YouTube. The speaker discussed how the TV can monitor you.....I have heard something like this before. I do not understand this technology, but then neither do I understand how a computer works. I just know it does and I am not interested in learning these details.

Anyhow, if this is true, can a computer do the same? I am wondering...

I am also wondering if by being on FB will make the job of snooping a whole lot easier for Uncle Sam to do? If I were to cancel my FB account, but still have a computer, would I gain anything?

I have questions and hope someone can answer...

Thanks!
ginnyrose

The answer to both questions is yes. Anything electronic has the capability to both tranfer and receive signals. My son confirmed this to me as I am also a geek in these departments.

This is a minute portion of a video that was around 2 hours in entirety. I have been listening to it in segments on audio, but there were key things he showed which I believe is one of the chief reasons it was removed from circulation.

He is far from a showboat and these are the types of men I have able to watch and be educated by. He was unconverted when the dream occurred and he observed things which were not invented until years later such as Hummers and lap top computers.

The reason I don't worry about what they know about me Ginny is because they are already aware of who the true followers are of Jesus Christ. I work as a mail carrier, and I have a scanner with GPS and I know they analyze all my moves from the moment I clock in. I cannot be concerned, because He is greater and we should never become paranoid by the big brother issue. I simply believe that as a servant of God, it is my duty to watch and pray.

I don't run after many of these "prophecy" preachers as most are mislead and often use one another's info. I glean from those that spend time in prayer and God is faithful to confirm what I need to know.

If you find the audio on Ken Peters, it is worth the listening.

God bless, Kathleen

The answer to both questions is yes. Anything electronic has the capability to both transfer and receive signals.

How is this possible when I do not even have a webcam? How can my computer pick up a conversation when there is no listening device attached? I guess a tv doesn't either, right? Oh! SIGH! Can it be disabled by the consumer?

Me dense? you bet...

ginnyrose

No Ginny, you're not dense, neither am I, but they have unbelievable technology today and any pre-1985 television is what they suggest if you do have one.

I don't use a television for anything but watching sermons and am not connected to any system anyhow.

Everything can be "bugged" even moreso because they know we are naive. I truly don't fret though Ginny. I remind myself about how Daniel was spied on and yet continued to pray and I don't want them to think I'm fearful of revealing my Christianity.

Our private information was taken long before we became Christians and let's just hope they see a good witness from all that spying! :)

God bless, Kathleen

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Thanks
in Him
ebeth

Hi Sister Ginny...

How is this possible when I do not even have a webcam? How can my computer pick up a conversation when there is no listening device attached? I guess a tv doesn't either, right? Oh! SIGH! Can it be disabled by the consumer?

Nowadays, there are plenty of laptops and computers that come equipped with built-in webcams and/or microphones. You can typically "toggle" such equipment to be turned off or muted. However, it would be possible (although extremely difficult and highly unlikely) for someone to "hack" into your computer and turn the thing on and then broadcast it from your computer via your internet connection. However, this would be extremely difficult to do...and would require quite a bit of sneaky effort from someone who would also need to know quite a bit about your computer (passwords). Although it is almost impossible to do, I suppose you would merely need to unplug your webcam or microphone (since they don't work without power) in order to ease suspicious minds. Of course, if your computer is off, you really have nothing to worry about anyway.

So, no, I don't believe that there is currently any government agency or sinister agents spying through televisions, radios or computers. It would be an expensive endeavor...and the technology just isn't present to do this on a massive scale anyway. However, it wouldn't hurt to have a firewall for your computers. Then again, maybe someone would actually get saved if they were able to peer into our homes and watch us live our lives for God!

Thanks Chris for giving me the heads up on this question. I do find it unnerving to think that someone somewhere may be snooping in on us. I can't prove it but did have a strong suspicion of someone having done this to us with a radio scanner via our cordless phone.

ebeth, the question we are discussing comes as a result of listening to the video as posted on the lead post in this thread. Hope this helps...

God bless y'all...

ginnyrise

Have you heard of this....

"[i]Mobile phone (cell phone) microphones can be activated remotely, without any need for physical access.[/i]
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_listening_device]Reference Link[/url]

[url=http://womenslawproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/23/cyber-stalking-in-the-internet-and-cell-phone-and-gps-and-digital-camera%E2%80%A6-age/]Cyber-stalking in the Internet...Age[/url]

They say if you have important conversations, make sure your phone is turned off because most people (like me) leave it laying on the table next to you and if this software is on your phone, they can listen in.

[i]There are some valid uses of cell phone surveillance software..... However, for most applications, this software allows an extreme invasion of privacy that would make most people extremely uncomfortable.[/i]
[url=http://cell-phones.suite101.com/article.cfm/cell_phone_spy_software]Cell phone spy software[/url]

God bless,

Thanks to Neil, Katherine, Lysa, Chris...

ginnyrose

Hi Neil...

humbly i beg to differ with you, as this is one of the few things i know. There IS the technology to passively monitor anyone via their computer and the via that little microphone on most computer's even when the computer is "off".

This technology is not "off the shelf", and only available to, lets just say.....entities, i dont want to go farther than that.

Oh, I agree that the technology is there in the [i]computer[/i] (either a desktop or a laptop). Even if the microphone and/or webcam are manually turned off, they can still be hacked too (if someone really, really wanted to go through all of the trouble to do it). This is even true of computers that are "unplugged" from a modem or router too...if they contain wireless network cards. However, if a microphone or webcam is "unplugged" (that is, the wires to the microphone and webcam are unhooked from the computer), then there isn't a microphone or webcam to hack into that would enable someone to "spy" via those two components. Of course, a hacker could still have the ability to search through the computer itself.

you wrote:

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It would be an expensive endeavor...and the technology just isn't present to do this on a massive scale anyway.

No expense has been spared and this technology IS present on a MASSIVE scale. After all, budgets of some agencies are classified. Massive scale Chris, why do you think the jihadists havent been able to mount another 9/11 attack?

Given the proper equipment, support, back up, funding, and executive order, any level, or means of surrveilance can be mounted. What the problem folks in the "community" are finding is that they have a deluge of raw data to plow thru, and that is the conundrum, to seperate the chaff from the wheat, and to collate all this data, and connect the dots.

Of course, I was speaking mainly in regard to the notion that a television or radio can be used to "spy" upon someone.

Natan4Jesus, thanks for expounding on this subject as my knowledge is limited and sometimes I need the support of one that has it! Thankyou.

I go away, and look at all the posts.

Anyhow, in the last days, men will be running to and fro and knowledge will be increased. This tells me that the same god that tempted Eve, then Adam, is hastily working in his department imparting knowledge to those that support his agenda. Not to give the enemy full credit; for there is the knowledge that God Himself, via the Holy Spirit, is delivering to His people by much prayer and seeking of Him.

This "Big Brother" intrusion into the average citizen's world is nothing new, and so it shouldn't surprise the Lord's people. It is highly unpleasant to find out that Christians are their worst enemies, for they are seeking the ability to moniter all and our prayers thwart and stall their agenda to introduce the antichrist. This really isn't science fiction.

When the financial world collapses as planned, they desire to have in play, a means of quickly controlling the the panicked civilians, and introducing a new money system with a hitch.

As Christians, the Bible tells us that we abide under the shadow of the Almighty and there are many saints that have known this for years. When David Wilkerson, and other men of God forwarn people to prepare for darker days, God is trying to gently direct us into preparing for these times. These days are not supposed to catch us unawares. He really hasn't given us a spirit of fear and this is why He sends certain ones to sound the alarm.

Anyhow, I thank everyone for their input and will seek to find a full copy of this message and not the brief segment they "allowed".

God bless, Kathleen

just joined the group, and you seem to be the only one on line . How are you doing ?

Anyhow, I thank everyone for their input and will seek to find a full copy of this message and not the brief segment they "allowed".

Seems like the Ken's dream is up for sale cost $30. That's why it has been taken of youtube because some company now own the rights to it and that's why you only get brief segements a bit like trailer for a movie. They show you just enough to get you interested..

Sad when say you "I have a message from God" then you go and sell it for money......

I think we are now safe to reconnect the microphones on our computer and switch on our mobile phones.

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Hi Snufalapagus and Murrcolr,

The segment is just 4:09 of an entire video, that's all they show.

Murrcolr, it's the "Prophecy Club" that has his video for sale and not Ken Peters himself. I don't believe he is even affiliated with them any longer. Yes, it is disheartening that people seek to profit, especially from someone else's revelations. I see it often as there's always someone out there trying to make a buck because they know these are valuable to certain people.

Another man that was once a speaker for them, and is now gone, wrote a wonderful book and the publisher( not from the Prophecy Club) now refuses to give the manuscripts so he can post his testimony for free. His book is now being sold on Amazon.com far above what he ever asked. He would also offer the book for free to those that could not afford it. He would return all profits into the publishing costs, and not for himself.

I have always had a problem with those that live the high life because "God spoke to them". I just wanted to emphasize that.

Snufalapagus, thanks for trying to help me. :)

God Bless, Kathleen

ccchhhrrriiisss,

Just to let you know I believe the NSA does have the capability to store massive amounts of data. Try looking up project echelon. The technology they have far surpasses what is available to the general public. That being said I'm not worried what they know about me because my savior is far more powerful than any government or government agency.