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Ten Shekels and a Shirt

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hoohoou Feb 16, 2010

I think there is a reason this is at the top of the list of SI's most recommended list. I've listened to it twice now and wanted to get some other people's thoughts on it. I can hardly listen to any praise music anymore, especially the slower stuff we usually call worship. I find myself noticing humanism in just about every area of mainstream Christianity. The songs I hear are about what God has done for us, the sermons are about what God can do for you. Everything seems to be about us. I know Jesus died for us and that there are many blessing we can experience while still here on earth, but have we really moved so far away from the holiness of God? Where is the woe is me for I am ruined? Why is everything supposed to make you shout?

We talked in church this Sunday about God inhabiting the praises of His people. If you're going through a tough time, just praise Him and God will hear your cry. No mention of holiness, no weeping, no repentance, just praise him. There was even a message in tongues with interpretation. The man who interpreted said that if we praise God, He will give us the desires of our heart. How can this happen? God does not say He will give us the desires of our heart if we praise Him. It is if we delight in Him. Not His blessings, not heaven, not that we're not going to hell, but because HE is GOD!

1. A holy God seeks a holy people.
2. A holy God seeks a people who do not mind the thought of holiness.
3. A loving God seeks a people who believe in Him.
4. A loving God seeks a people who say they believe in Him.
5. God wants you to be blessed.

Have we gone this far? How deep is the enemy's infiltration into our churches? This message has really penetrated.

1Behold, the LORD'S hand is not so short
That it cannot save; Nor is His ear so dull that it cannot hear. 2But your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, and your sins have hidden His face from you so that He does not hear. 3For your hands are defiled with blood and your fingers with iniquity; Your lips have spoken falsehood, your tongue mutters wickedness. 4No one sues righteously and no one pleads honestly they trust in confusion and speak lies; They conceive mischief and bring forth iniquity. (Isaiah 59:1-4)

Is it as bad as I feel the Lord is showing me. I've been praying He would open my eyes. I've been praying against pride. If the enemy has gripped the gifts in my church... The people are misled by all of this. New Christians will be sucked into this. Is it really as bad as it seems? Can it be that no one pleads honestly. Is it all humanism and goose bumps and not the Holy Spirit? I know that not every church is guilty, but how bad has it really become?

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mguldner Feb 19, 2010

I understand exactly what you mean, and I think we can all agree that Ten Shekels and a Shirt is an anointed message. I think that the change is going to happen one person at a time, through fasting and praying and seeking God's Holy face. My hopes and faith is in what God did with Paris Reidhead He can do to the masses. I am also noticing the things with our modern Christianity and it does indeed bug me, I use to get mad when I heard humanism in a message or a worship song and rightly so but most people preach humanism out of ignorance and praise and worship through humanism out of ignorance so instead of getting angry I pray for that person that God would tear through the overlay of humanism and change the persons heart. If you enjoyed Ten Shekels and a Shirt listen to If You Agree, yet another anointed and powerful message that has impacted me to change deeply for the Glory of Christ and Christ alone. I thank God every day for opening my eyes and my heart to the Gospel of Christ to a more full extent than What can I get out of this. A plan of action that I took to see change in my circle of fellowship is getting them to listen to Ten Shekels and a Shirt, It's like a penetrating Arrow to the Heart of a Man that is open to it. I am glad to see there are others that are concerned with the state of the church in this manner, To defeat and dismantle Humanism in our church it will take lots of Love, lots of Humility, Lots of Prayer, Lots of wisedom but most importantly Lots of God for the Glory of Christ. May the Lamb that was Slain receive the Full Reward of His Sufferings.

God Bless,
Matthew

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hoohoou Feb 19, 2010

Thanks for responding. I can really agree with what you have said.

I use to get mad when I heard humanism in a message or a worship song and rightly so but most people preach humanism out of ignorance and praise and worship through humanism out of ignorance so instead of getting angry I pray for that person that God would tear through the overlay of humanism and change the persons heart.

I haven't really been angry at people in general but I do get mad at pastors who either actively promote that line of thinking or promote it through silence.

It's like a penetrating Arrow to the Heart of a Man that is open to it.

You're right, though, God will have to open their eyes to receive it. I listened to it a couple of times before it really hit me. I'm not sure that everyone has ears to hear it.

I am glad to see there are others that are concerned with the state of the church in this manner, To defeat and dismantle Humanism in our church it will take lots of Love, lots of Humility, Lots of Prayer, Lots of wisedom but most importantly Lots of God for the Glory of Christ. May the Lamb that was Slain receive the Full Reward of His Sufferings.

I am also glad there are others. Sometimes it feels like I am the only one. I preach on Friday nights to the young adult group at my church and I'm really emphasizing doing everything for the glory of God, regardless of what He does for us. He saved us. Humanism is just so ingrained in church culture that it's difficult to get the point across. Like you said, they are that way out of ignorance. You're right, it will take prayer and fasting and more prayer and fasting and the anointing of the Holy Ghost. Indeed, may the Lamb that was slain receive the full reward of His sufferings.

Matt

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