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The Problem of the Modern Pastoral Role

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myfirstLove Apr 9, 2010

I found this article in a friend's blog. I've never read anything from Frank Viola, but only this article. I find this article very good and biblical.
God Bless, Lisa


The Problem of the Modern Pastoral Role

… the commonly accepted notion of “sola pastora” (single pastor) is at odds with the NT. The Bible knows nothing of a person who stands at the helm of a local church, directs its affairs, preaches to it every Sunday, conducts its baptisms, and officiates its communion (or Lord’s supper).

The highly specialized, professional “pastoral role” of modern Protestantism is a post-biblical novelty that evokes a tradition of humane (but not so helpful) sacerdotal-ism! It is essentially a carry-over from Romanism (the priest). As such, it better reflects the weak and beggarly elements of the Levitical priesthood than anything found in the NT.

Just as serious, the pastoral role warps many who fill this position. Those who get seduced by the trappings of clerical professionalism are virtually always tainted by it. God never called anyone to bear the heavy burden of ministering to the needs of the church by themselves.

Perhaps the most daunting feature of the modern pastoral role is that it keeps the people it claims to serve in spiritual infancy. Because the pastoral role usurps the believer’s right to minister in a spiritual way, it ends up warping God’s people. It keeps them weak and insecure.

Granted, many who fill this role do so for laudable reasons. And not a few of them sincerely want to see their fellow brethren take spiritual responsibility. (Many a pastor live with this frustration. But few have mapped the problem to their profession.)

Yet, the modern office of “pastor” always disempowers and pacifies the believing priesthood. This is so regardless of how uncontrolling the person who fills this position may be.

Since the pastor carries the spiritual workload, the majority of the brethren become passive, lazy, self-seeking, and arrested in their spiritual growth. In this way, both pastors and congregations alike cannot help from being spiritually lamed by this unbiblical office.

While the NT calls Paul an “apostle,” Philip an “evangelist,” Manaen a “teacher,” and Agabus a “prophet,” it never identifies anyone as a pastor! In fact, the word “pastor” is used only once in the entire NT (see Ephesians 4:11). And it is used as a descriptive metaphor, never as an ecclesiastical office. This flies in the face of common practice. Today “the pastor” is regarded as the figurehead of the church. His name is exclusively splashed on church marquees all across America. (One wonders why other ministries do not appear on these marquees when they are given far more attention in the NT.)

In the final analysis, the modern pastoral role undermines the Headship of Jesus Christ. It has a spiritually crippling effect on the church. It robs God’s beloved priesthood (of all believers) of its full employment. Further, its mere presence diffuses and stalemates those “ordinary” believers who are equally gifted to shepherd and teach the flock. (Never mind that the Bible teaches that every church is to have multiple shepherds. Or that all members of the Body are to bear pastoral responsibility.)

Typically, if someone other than the pastor dares to shepherd or teach the sheep (even if he may be trustworthy, mature, and gifted), the pastor will feel threatened. He will then snuff it our under the guise of “protecting” the flock!

To be more specific and pointed, the present-day conception of “the pastor” is far removed from the thought of God. It puts the dynamic of NT community into an Old Testament straitjacket.

Yet regardless of the spiritual tragedies it engenders, the masses continue to rely upon, defend, and insist on the existence of this most unbiblical role. For this reason the so-called “laity” are just as responsible for the problem of clericalism as is the “clergy.” As Jeremiah 5:31 says, “The priests rule on their own authority; and my people love it so! But what will you do at the end of it?”

If the truth be told, many Christians prefer the convenience of having someone other than themselves shoulder the responsibility for ministry and shepherding. In their minds, it is better to hire a religious specialist to tend to the needs of the brethren than to bother themselves with the self-emptying demands of servant-hood and pastoral care.

The words of the old prophet capture the Lord’s displeasure with this mindset: “They have set up kings, but not my me: they have made princes, and I knew it not…” (Hosea 8:4a).

In light of these sobering facts, one may intelligently ask how it is that the modern pastoral role remains to be the commonly accepted form of church leadership today. The answer lies deeply entrenched in the history of the Reformation. And it continues to be reinforced by current cultural imperatives.

In short, our 20th-century Western obsession with offices and titles has led us to superimpose our own ideas of church order onto the NT. Yet the very ethos of the NT militates against the idea of official-elders.

Scripture is equally at odds with the “senior pastor” concept. This is the common (but unscriptural) practice of elevating one of the elders to a prominent authoritative position. Nowhere does the NT sanction the notion of primos inter pares – “first among equals.” At least not in any official or formal way.

This disconnect between “the pastor” and the other elders was an accident of church history. But because it meshes perfectly with our acculturated Christian mindset, modern believers have little trouble reading this false dichotomy into Scripture.

In sum, the modern pastoral role is little more than a one-size-fits-all blending of administration, psychology, and oratory that is packaged into one position for religious consumption. As such, the sociological role of pastor, as practiced in the West, has few points of contact with anything or anyone in the NT!

sermonindex Apr 9, 2010

all i know is this: the most annointed meeting i ever attended, was when the pastor was prevented from being there, by a 100 ton rock that fell atop our two lane mountain canyon road. My brother (who was leaving for missions in the Pacific Rim, still there) and i looked at each other, and the Holy Spirit lead me to humbly ask Jesus to Pastor this meeting of 25 saints in a crazy rainstorm.

This meeting was unlike anything i ever attended before or since, decently, in order, and the Sweet Fragrance of Messiah swept the saints to glory,.... to give a recount of what happened?

well, just try it sometime,that's all i can say for now, Jesus is a Wonderful Pastor.

neil

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michigan Apr 9, 2010

God Bless Neil/Lisa
I thought the article Lisa in the main to be absolutely on point.Its sad that many in the body of Christ hold to this one man at the front tradition and i agree that it leaves many believers spiritually immature and lazy. I know that many pastors really do love the Lord but are trapped in this system which I agree with Frank Viola is unbiblical. I dont know who Frank Viola is but i have reached my own conclusions from scripture aswell as looking at other articles. This strikes a chord with me because I used to be in a position of leadership and i know how my heart changed from sincerely serving the flock to having the flock serve me and silencing or getting rid of anyone or anything that threatened my position. Because it happened to me I recognise it and see it so many times in different churches how that kind of power eventually corrupts. I'm so glad I'm free from that and my prayer is that Jesus would have His church back and believers would be free to worship in spirit and in truth.

Lloyd

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twayneb Apr 10, 2010

Interesting post.

As far as I can tell, nowhere in scripture do we find a local body or church having a person called a pastor. Apostolic leadership always ordained a plurality of eldership in each local body. It is entirely possible that some of these elders were called to be pastors, but most of them probably were not. Apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor, teacher are equipping gifts given to the body to bring the body into maturity and to equip and edify them and are not necessarily the same as eldership.

Local bodies or churches were always defined by the city in which they were located. The city I live in has, by Biblical example, only one church. It is the church in Joplin. Because of the size of the city there are many parts of the local church that meet in different places. Unfortunately most of these parts of the local body see themselves as separate churches and are divided by all sorts of differences.

We are far from the Biblical example of the church that operated in first 100 years or so after Christ ascended. There is a Biblical governmental structure that I believe we would do well to get back to.

Travis

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KingJimmy Apr 10, 2010

According to 1 Peter 5, Jesus Christ, our "Chief Shepherd" alone is our "Senior Pastor." Such is not a role he delegates to others in His absence here on earth. It's a role He occupies locally and universally. It's His position alone to occupy.

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mguldner Apr 10, 2010

This is something that I have battled with and have found my answer and peace of mind about it. I actually got into a small disagreement with my head pastor over this because I challenged his authority with Christ's authority. I asked him who the head of the church was, he advised me under Christ he was the head, at which I disagreed and said Christ is the head. He asked me what the Senior pastor was and I said fingers and toes just like everyone else. After much thinking on this question I still haven't really put my finger on what "body part" a senior pastor is in the body of Christ.

The term pastor means elder, overseer, priest, bishop, and sheperd etc. The Catholic church I believe is the one that starting sperating these titles and putting more emphasis on certian titles such as Bishop and Priest. The Elder, Priest, Pastor, Overseers, Bishop, Sheperd, etc were all the same office and in most cases each Church had more than one Overseer or Elder to make sure power wasn't abused.

God Bless,
Matthew

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KingJimmy Apr 10, 2010

Many pastor/elders have a misunderstanding of their function within the body of Christ. They think they are supposed to run a church and it's programs, and preach a sermon. They think they are supposed to "cast a vision," and a lot of other things. Biblically speaking, elders never did any of these things. Rather, they lived lives that demonstrated what the Christian life was supposed to look like, and taught others how to do the same, providing oversight to the souls of those in their care.

sermonindex Apr 10, 2010

you guys all have a point and I agree wholeheartedly. It's just more human influence infiltraiting christianity. Kind of like like at work where it's the dichotomy of the boss and the underlings. And where there is a dichotomy, there will be politics.

There is a guy named John Fenn who although I don't know of his credentials and what not. He does propose that we go away from a structure of the modern church and get smaller into house churches where everyone leads on a ration whether it be in message, praise, prayer or whatever that person's gift may be.

Where ever there is power to be had, there will always be a power struggle underneath it.

http://www.supernaturalhousechurch.org/aboutus.html

sermonindex Apr 10, 2010

This strikes a chord with me because I used to be in a position of leadership and i know how my heart changed from sincerely serving the flock to having the flock serve me and silencing or getting rid of anyone or anything that threatened my position. Because it happened to me I recognise it and see it so many times in different churches how that kind of power eventually corrupts.

@Lloyd

I've been called to have characteristics for a fair leader, I don't like to be in the limelight, I choose what is right over something even if it hurts me, and I've been told I'm modest but if you put me in a position where I have power like a dictator and no checks and balances, I can quickly turn into a tyrant.

What I'm saying is that POWER can deceive even those who seem to be able to resist it the most. It's like money and sex.

I think as the church, we should not put anyone in that amount of temptation or pressure.

I think the whole premise of christianity is that we're sinners and we're in our very nature evil. As the church, we should do everything we can to prevent each other into falling in traps because I don't know anyone that is holy enough not to fall into these traps.

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twayneb Apr 10, 2010

Watchman Nee wrote a fantastic little book on this issue. It is called the Normal Christian Church Life. I would STRONGLY recommend it. I did not see eye to eye with him in that he made the pastor/teacher one role. But, I can see how it can be defended scripturally and is not a really big deal. Otherwise his assessment of the Biblical teaching on church leadership and structure was spot on in my opinion. I know Nee was heavily influenced by TA Sparks, and that Sparks was very kingdom minded rather than denominationally minded. I have searched for teachings on church structure by Sparks and have not found much. However, what I have found by him is very powerful.

By the way, you can find it and read it online. No need to search for a paper copy.

Travis

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narrowpath Apr 10, 2010

This article is spot on! Many pastors hold the role of the CRO, the chief religious officer. Regardless how godly and christlike these people are, if we deviate from the bible in church government, we cannot experience the fullness of what God had in mind. Rolfe Barnard said rightly, that reformators like Calvin and Owens were dead wrong to say that the church is where the gospel is preached, but rather the assembly of the saints.

We need new wineskins to hold the new wine of apostolic Christianity. Actually this wine predates the reformation by far. The pulpit-pew, clergy-laity model shaped assemblies will not be able to serve any longer.

I am coming more and more to the conclusion that the Holy Spirit cannot properly operate in such an environment and will be at best restricted to anointed preaching.

We had the Charismatic renewal in 3 waves and the house church movement in the last century. They recovered long forgotten truths that we must embrace. Just because these movements had flaws (some serious) does not mean we have to write them off and retract into a safe, boring doctrine centred mode of Christianity.

Can God send revival if we stubbornly hold on to man-made structures?
We need the 5 fold ministry as extension of Christ's ministry well as elders and deacons in the to govern the Body of Christ in all aspects.

See Eph 4:11, Eph 4:12, Eph 4:13, Eph 4:14, Eph 4:15, Eph 4:16

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hoohoou Apr 10, 2010

I don't see how the problem is in the structure of the church. I'm of the opinion that the normal Christian life is a Spirit-filled and Spirit-led life. I'm also of the opinion that the normal Christian life is holiness and anything less is sickness. That being said, I don't think it matters what "format" we use. Purposefully changing the format so that it looks Biblical is no different than keeping the format because that's just how it's done. The only thing that matters is that the pastor is Spirit-filled without an ounce of pride. The problem isn't that a single man is in charge, the problem is that the man isn't Spirit-filled.

God called me to be a pastor. I don't know what that means and it doesn't sound like anyone else does either. We can talk till we're blue in the face about how a church service is supposed to look, but the Bible really isn't that specific on the topic. I get a little tired of people pointing out problems and offering no solution. If you're going to sit down and take the time to write an article the least you can do is offer some type of answer. I can sit back at any church service anywhere, I don't care who's preaching, and absolutely pick it apart. Finding fault is easy, finding solutions is the hard part. All I know is that I was called to be a pastor and I'm going to walk with what light I have knowing that the Holy Spirit will lead me into what it really is.

Where the Spirit of the Lord is there is freedom. Our problem isn't 3 songs and a message, our problem is spiritual dryness. God saved me in a closet hanging up a shirt, in a split second. He doesn't need us to do anything any certain way. He needs us to love Him with all our heart, mind, soul, and strength. We do that and He'll handle the details.

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myfirstLove Apr 10, 2010

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Hi Hoohoou,

I don't think anyone here is trying to pick a part, point out the problem with no solution.

The problem is really traditional leaders are the ones who do not want to break Roman style/Old Testament ways.

The Pastor isn't the only one CALLED to help mature the sheep. Maybe God did call you to be a pastor, to help with others called to feed the sheep. Doesn't mean Pastors are called to over lord and be the main guy using his gift. Others are called too. Others feel God is calling them to be a Prophet, Apostle, evangelist, Teacher for the body, to help mature the sheep. But, many Pastors will not allow these other giftings to share the "main stage" with them. These other giftings are not side giftings as many pastors treat them. All 5 gifts(eph.4:11) are MAIN giftings to help mature the body. If the Pastor is the only one leading its not helping the body mature. The body needs all 5 main gifts to mature. So, yes it is important to do it the biblical way and not man's opinion what he thinks is o.k.

I've seen many pastors try to be the evangelist too which causes a lot of problem and confusion because many do not have the evangelist gifts. So many have treated evangelism more relational causing many sheep to think that open air is wrong. Pastors are natural in relationship so when they try to be the evangelist also they teach its more relational. Many pastors try to be all giftings and it just messes evrything up and confuses the sheep.

Most pastor will not let other gifting be use because they fear it might be abused, false, ect....Paul who is an Apostle didn't seem to worry about that with the immature Corithians. Paul encourage all gifts to be used, but orderly and that the prophets is able to judge right prophecy. Its important to let others use their gifts also, not just the pastor/teacher. all gifts are needed to help edify the body. Elders are there to oversee/help bring order not over lord. Big difference.

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hoohoou Apr 10, 2010

myfirstLove, I think you should have written the article. Your post actually deals with the problem, not just mention the problem. Still, the problem isn't the structure, but rather the execution of the office. I'd agree that a church doesn't have to look like every other church, but that isn't the issue. The issue, as you've stated, is prideful, worldly minded pastors. Worldly doesn't necessarily mean evil, it can also simply be getting caught up in tradition. It's still wrong and sinful.

Your response though doesn't address the article or the office of pastor. It addresses something lacking in the Church, and that is Spirit-filled leaders.

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InTheLight Apr 10, 2010

I don't see how the problem is in the structure of the church. I'm of the opinion that the normal Christian life is a Spirit-filled and Spirit-led life. I'm also of the opinion that the normal Christian life is holiness and anything less is sickness. That being said, I don't think it matters what "format" we use. Purposefully changing the format so that it looks Biblical is no different than keeping the format because that's just how it's done. The only thing that matters is that the pastor is Spirit-filled without an ounce of pride. The problem isn't that a single man is in charge, the problem is that the man isn't Spirit-filled.

Amen! As you point out the article's focus is on the form the church takes when the real issue is a spiritual one.

We all know of plenty of examples of churches past and present with the senior pastor form which the Lord has used greatly because they are broken men who are spirit-filled and led.

This is where we need to direct our prayer for the churches.

In Christ,

Ron

sermonindex Apr 10, 2010

I don't see how the problem is in the structure of the church. I'm of the opinion that the normal Christian life is a Spirit-filled and Spirit-led life. I'm also of the opinion that the normal Christian life is holiness and anything less is sickness. That being said, I don't think it matters what "format" we use. Purposefully changing the format so that it looks Biblical is no different than keeping the format because that's just how it's done. The only thing that matters is that the pastor is Spirit-filled without an ounce of pride. The problem isn't that a single man is in charge, the problem is that the man isn't Spirit-filled.

Actually the problem would be structure as well as if someone is not Spirit filled. I can't find any example in the scripture where one man (even if he's Spirit filled)comes into a meeting of believers and delivers an hour message week after week while the rest of the "body" just sits there and listens. I would hardly call that a functioning body. Which is you don't see that example in scripture. What you see is each memeber able to contribute and be used of the Lord and able to excercise the gifts God has given them.

The command Christ gave was to make disciple. Not to gather a group of people who will listen to you preach week after week. In the typical church set up believer are hindered in their walk with the Lord by not being able to exercise the gifts God has given them in the believers meetings and to grow into maturity in this area.

It's really sad to see people who say they want to make disciples spend all their time preaching and teaching "supposedly" sound doctrines yet they won't put into practice a fellowship that incorporates all believers as we see practiced in the scriptures. What we see today is what is said in the aricle... "sola Pastora". It seems to be the unstated but offically accepted practice of the Reformation and should probably be listed with all the other "sola's".

sermonindex Apr 10, 2010

We all know of plenty of examples of churches past and present with the senior pastor form which the Lord has used greatly because they are broken men who are spirit-filled and led.

Simply becaues God blessed a certain fellowship with an unbiblical structure is in no way an endorsement by God. God is simply merciful and loving and tends to bless men with the light they have and walk in. I've know some men who have been born again at some pretty apostate fellowship but that doesn't endorse the fellowship.

What we have today is people who will settle for what has seemed to work in the past instead of looking to the scriptures as our guide.

sermonindex Apr 10, 2010

i feel bad terming you as "hoohoou" especially when you write:

God called me to be a pastor.

what i write i write without rancor or ill will, but i was struck by your testimony, again:

God called me to be a pastor. I don't know what that means and it doesn't sound like anyone else does either.

which begs this question; if you dont know what "that" means, did God call you to be a "pastor", or perhaps did He call you to be "servant"?

i spoke briefly about a house meeting, the likes i have never been as privledged to be at, since or after, but what i left out were the details:

my dear brother, who is now in a muslim nation, was my dear prayer partner in very very dark new agey part of southern california...oh, the times we had! just Glorious! prayer walks at midnight thru a canyon community with active satanic covens, etc. a regular house prayer meeting on Thursday's at a dear widows house, that lasted for 4 years, where we were allowed by God the Holy Ghost to scale the heights, and storm the gates of hell, all around us. God allowed us such annointing that the enemy actually sent demonically possessed people to disrupt these meetings, this was when we were holding the prayer meetings in the only "church" in this canyon, before the "board" got the devil up in them and chased us out.

Did we do anything WRONG, that the board should do as such? No. this meeting was just usually 5 saints interceding for a most hellish community, with love and tears, and it drove the enemy wild, the manifestations, the unholy spirits sent to attack this Work of God. You should have seen it! I would say "unbelievable", but in the world of hell, these attacks are very believable, they are to be expected. one night, after the meeting closed, one of these poor souls, so bound by satan, started to manifest, and spewed out deadly threats of physical violence at me...out of nowhere. Now i might be 5'8", but friends that know me, know that is unwise to breath such threats, as i have had family members murdered....and the "old man" would react swiftly and without hesitation.

..and i was looking right into this person's eyes, impassive, and for a brief second, i thought, "son, i could kill you right now", but in another second, Jesus schooled me, and i took that awful thought captive to Christ, smiled at this poor demoniac, turned on my heels, walked out the door, and towards my truck, with this bound soul at my heels, spewing venom, but he kept his distance. The four other brothers, including the pastor were petrified with terror,rooted where they stood. I wasnt terrified, i was fighting the evil urge to split a skull, or worse when i got to my truck. (yes, i'm a yankee jew bubba)...but God told me in that moment, "thats what the evil one WANTS you to do, stay your hand, stay your anger, and I, LORD God will get the Glory". So i got in, drove away....forgive me for the aside, but that is the spiritual atmosphere we were dealing with, Pastor Jack Hayford himself told me that area we ministered, was "the darkest area he had ever been thru in his life".

the point to my testimony is that my dear brother/prayer partner had been raised by dear parents, who were higly placed within a well known missions sending parachurch, and he had known Messiah, since a very early age, he had seen the North American evangelical church for YEARS, and had been soured on the hypocrisy, and the pro forma going thru the motions aspects of the evangelical church, and since i was "new", at times we would discuss his views, which i thought bordered on rebellion, i took that one must be "in submission" to church leaders, pastors, but at the same time, i could see the "cracks" in the witness, in the ecclesiology. i remember, at the Leading of the Lord, begging my home church pastor, to reconfigure our sanctuary to where instead of the row after row of seats, into a square, just like brother Seymour did at the Azusa Street Mission. i thought that a wonderful idea, so that we could SEE each other, SEE our brothers and sisters faces......no, that was not to be. The very mission that the denomination, AoG was birthed at, Azusa, where they sat in a square on boards propped up by old nail kegs was not how my dear brother wanted HIS church configured, so i submitted and continued to stare at the back of someones neck..back to "rome". my home church has a beautiful institutional kitchen, you could feed 200 to 300 people out of it, (which we did when Teen Challenge came by with their "Lunch for the Lost"..to raise funds) and led by the Lord, i offered to spend Sunday mornings with one or two helpers to cook a simple meal, for the saints to enjoy together after Sunday meeting, an agape love feast, so the saints could enjoy one anothers fellowship, be blessed by this, cement communitas, instead of the weekly rituals of huddled "cliques", whispering at where they would take lunch at, Dennys, Applebees, or wherever, when the "sermon" ended. i implored my dear pastor, allow me to serve, BE A SERVANT, in this way, and we will blossom into community. I also made the firm committment that i would do it every single Sabbath, i'm a very good cook, as many hungry men were feed by a ministry, "the burrito ministry", the Lord blessed me with, can attestify. These were undocumented latino day laborers who gathered in my canyon, and hadnt found their work that day, and were hungry. (yeh thats right, "undocumented", or as many within "evangelical" circles call "illegal aliens", voices dripping with fleshly scorn. Heaven forbid, they should imagine that God in His Mercy brought the mission field up to US, in the U.S.)

but my pastor didnt gravitate towards that ministry, i didnt fuss, after all, its HIS church, right?

mind you, i love this dear man with all of my heart, but its his church, he's in charge, or maybe he felt that this "wasn't from God"..i dont know. i harbored no rancor. Was i disappointed? yes, because i felt, even in my lack of knowledge that i had stumbled onto something, a Divine Concept, that "church" is not a building, "church" is not some dry roman modeled clergy/laity counterfeit, where we walk in for a 45 minute lecture on Sundays and waltz out, or twice a week, for the Wednesday Bible "study", which is really just a mini version of Sunday Service, another shorter lecture. No, Church is Family. Indeed, the Church IS the Body of Christ, but if you are my brother, my sister IN Christ, we are FAMILY, and a family worships together, eats together, laughs together, crys together, trusts not only in God, but trusts one another so completely, it is safe to confess together, and testify together. Life Together. Its a Divine Concept, a Divine Model, Its Upper Room all the way. but the model of rome holds the protestant church in its ecclesiatical bondage to this very day. its all rather tragic....and that tragedy is underlined by some of the threads i read on this forum, no offense, just speaking my heart. But i rest easy in this Truth, God does know what He's doing.

i got off topic, but i wrote as i was led.....neil

sermonindex Apr 11, 2010

instead of my plethora of words, i should have just posted up two Compilations that Jesus gave me, the first is [url=http://www.fireonthealtar.com/compilations/neil%20g/Shake%20the%20Nation.mp3]"Shake the Nation"[/url]and the second is

[url=http://www.fireonthealtar.com/compilations/neil%20g/01-A%20kingdom%20of%20Priests%20-%20Neil%20G%20+.mp3]"A Kingdom of Priests"[/url] to let my son know who he is IN the Lord.

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osandoval Apr 11, 2010

For those interested in more information on this topic, here a great website that has lots of free resources(articles, audios, videos): www.ntrf.org
God bless.

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