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Benefits of meditating on Justification?

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TaylorOtwell Apr 29, 2010

Friends,

Please share the spiritual benefits you have received from meditating on justification, or Christ's finished, atoning work.

Meditating on this often motivates me to more holiness and godliness of life. His grace leads to gratitude. I often find meditating on Christ's atonement much more motivating to vital holiness than trying to "force" myself into a rigid holiness. Do you know what I mean? I would love to hear your thoughts, brothers and sisters!

With care in Christ...

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Areadymind Apr 29, 2010

I have been considering this question for the last two hours while I am working and have realized there are so many things I could share on this topic...as it has been the fight of my life. If you don't mind a lengthy post I will prayerfully consider my words and respond later when I have a lot of time to write.

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sojourner7 Apr 29, 2010

Oh, how we struggle with flesh and wrestle
against sin until we understand that " It
was finished!!" at Calvary. There is nothing
to be done with flesh or against sin except
to take it to the cross, see it crucified
with Christ; and put to death there on Calvary.
Not I, but Christ; gives me victory !!

GEORGE WHITEFIELD

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twayneb Apr 29, 2010

I have been considering this question for the last two hours while I am working and have realized there are so many things I could share on this topic...as it has been the fight of my life. If you don't mind a lengthy post I will prayerfully consider my words and respond later when I have a lot of time to write.

Taylor, I agree with alreadymind. I could write paragraphs, but I think I will try to condense it down to what I believe to be the most profound impact this meditation has had on my walk.

When I say what I am about to say, I am NOT talking about psychology or self-perception / self-improvement, but I am not sure that I have the words to convey it without possibly leaving that impression.

When a man hears the word and does not understand it, the enemy comes and steals that word away. But when a man understands the word, when the word is digested, processed, and assimilated, when it becomes revelation to the degree that I become that word, then there is nothing that can steal it away or cause me to back down on it. That is when the written word becomes spirit and life to me. That is when the word can begin to bear fruit in my life.

As I have meditated on the atonement, justification, salvation, righteousness by faith, rebirth, I have come to the place where I no longer question who or what I am. I now know who and what I am. It has changed my perception of me. I now see myself the way God sees me through the blood of Christ. This realization of who I am in Christ has given my far greater power over sin. It has worked out in me a far greater work of holiness than could ever have happened had I seen myself as a struggling sinner or even a "get in by the skin of your teeth sinner saved by grace" if you know what I mean. When I am faced with temptation what now rises up in me is, "No, I am the righteousness of God in Christ. Christ does not live that way. I am in Him and I do not live that way." Now, I don't use that as the mode of my resistance. I cannot defeat sin through myself, but realizing what God has done in me and who He has made me to be causes me to rise up and deal with the situation through the authority of the word of God and in the power of the Holy Spirit, knowing full well that greater is He that is in me than he that is in the world.

Travis

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InTheLight Apr 29, 2010

Please share the spiritual benefits you have received from meditating on justification, or Christ's finished, atoning work.

There are great benefits from this meditation not the least of which is that because I have been justified freely by His grace I can now go on serving the Lord Jesus Christ without constantly worrying whether I am doing it adequately or not. It is tremendously liberating in the sense that I am freed from all self effort and every notion that I have, or ever will, find favor with God on the basis of my endeavor.

Yes, the Spirit is working in me every day and in every way to walk as my Lord walked, but right now He wants me to know that I am right in His sight because of what Another has done.

In Christ,

Ron

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Christinyou Apr 30, 2010

When God revealed His Son in me, as He did in Paul, it took all my effort and made it not worth a penny. It is the Christ in me that makes the difference, even when I fall, I am lifted up again and repentance and confession, follows. I truly have a heart to be like Christ and the Holy Spirit reveals this to me every day. Christ in me the Hope of Glory, what a scripture. The mystery Paul reveals in the Word as it was revealed to him by the Son of God Himself, that is why Paul can now say, "My Gospel". The Christ in Paul is the living Word and the completion of the Gospel of God for all who are called into the absolutely greatest and most wonderful Christ statement of all time, "I go to prepare a place for you". Even greater, "if I go to prepare a place for you, I will come and get you and give you unto the Father". A son of God, by rebirth, dead to sin on the Cross with Christ.

Colossians 1:26-28 Even the (((((mystery))))) which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; (((((which is Christ in you,))))) the hope of glory: Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Who is the living Word and the Incorruptable Seed in me?

John 1:1-4 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

He that is in me is the Light, and the Light of all that are in Christ.

Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

My life is now by the Faith of the Son of God in me. It is no longer I who live But Christ who lives in me. That is what this revelations have meant to me.

1 Corinthians 1:30-31 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

Truly we can glory in the Lord. Amen

In Christ: Phillip

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twayneb Apr 30, 2010

Taylor, I think I am liking this thread!!!! I am blessed as I read these posts.

Travis

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live4jc Apr 30, 2010


God has been reminding of this much lately; of the need to look to Christ, rather than to myself. In line with this, I came across a sermon of Spurgeon's recently titled, 'Looking unto Jesus'.

I liked the sermon and especially loved the following quote that was in it :

"Remember what that eminent Scotch divine said, when he was dying. Some one said to him, "What, are you dying now?" Said he, "I am just gathering all my good works up together, and I am throwing them all overboard; and I am lashing myself to the plank of free grace, and I hope to swim to glory on it." "

In Jesus,
John

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TaylorOtwell Apr 30, 2010

live4jc,

Amazing quote! Oh, to cast our souls on Christ alone. What a blessing it is.

With care in Christ...

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Areadymind May 1, 2010

For years I experienced little to no true victory, I believed in Jesus, had even confessed Him as "Lord," yet often found myself falling dramatically short. I had been both mildly deceived, and heavily self-deceived. I had been lead to the conclusion that all I needed to recognize was that I had been forgiven and declared righteous "in" Christ. After a few years it started to dawn on me that something was dramatically wrong with my life, and my perception of the faith was severely lacking.

I remember about 5-6 years ago telling God that I had absolutely no thirst for His word, no thirst for righteousness, and that I was an utter failure, I simply asked Him to grant me the thirst for His word because I knew that faith came by the hearing of it. It was a simple, honest prayer, with no pretension that I can think of.

Slowly I began to thirst...it would wax and wane, but eventually I became parched for the things of God, and since then it has only continued to grow, gratefully my thirst has been quenched in many ways but most significantly in the way that you posed your question Taylor.

The heavy meditation on the nature of Justification came after Jude 4 and Jude 10 punctured my soul and spilled it all over the ground. After this, what remained was a real big question… “How do I not turn the grace of God into lasciviousness such that I become spiritual rather than remaining acerbically natural?”

Thus entered the reading of Galatians over and over and over and over dozens of times praying through it focusing on responding to Galatians 3:1-3, “O Foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? This only would I learn of you Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith. Are ye so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?”

The flashpoint of the question raised forces one to consider a couple things, 1.) The process of perfection is expected to be performed, yet Paul spends the book of Galatians proving that perfection does not occur by the works of flesh, a.k.a circumcision. 2.) These people had received the Spirit, but had fallen back on beggarly elements. 3.) Paul calls the Galatians foolish people because they are not obeying the truth. 4.) The works of flesh are “bewitching.” The word for bewitching is synonymous with becoming insane. 5.) There was a beginning, in the Spirit. 6.) The conclusion one draws from this series of questions must be something along these lines, “You will be perfected, your perfection is being prevented by your own fleshly pride, the indication of perfection is obedience, yet should you lose that “beginning” relationship, you will be driven to insanity. Therefore you must continue how you begun.” At least that was somewhat the conclusion I drew from the line of reasoning.

This lead me back to one thing…how it all begun. Justification is the legal term to describe what happened to us because of what our King did for us on Calvary. Therefore our justification is the result of the cross, so for me justification is almost never contemplated apart from the cross. This is the point that Galatians hits home so hard. “God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.” This was probably one of Paul’s greatest statements, and, in my opinion, the centrifuge of all of his motivation in life. How did he maintain this? Galatians 5:5 Paul wraps up the center of the epistle by saying, “For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.” It gets us back to answering his rhetorical question. Because he had quoted Habakkuk and stated that of course, “the just shall live by faith.” Galatians 3:11. If the original language had had italics, I think that Galatians would have put live in them.

So the way I then live as a Christian is in faith, the same faith that delivered me at first, the same faith I received when the humility of God, collided with the humility of man. The Spirit through conviction brings us to a place of total humility and we see ourselves for what we are…the trash, the garbage, the filth that Christ became for us. When I reckon this faith daily, I see what my King had to do, and I understand because of His resurrection that I have the power to live as he did, that humility is maintained. The flesh cowers and hides while the life of Christ begins to “perfect” my life. When I reckon this flesh dead on the cross, I stop lusting, I stop hating, my vain imaginations cease, my mind begins to be cleansed. My anger dissipates, and I am motivated more and more for the holiness of God because I see sin for what it really is, It is my God on a cross. There because of what my sin did to him. Yet I understand that he did it, willingly. He did not have to do it. So I understand then why James and Peter said that God gives grace to the humble. Humility is the only way grace can have an outworking toward Holiness through my justification. Maintain the humility to see ourselves as Garbage, and Christ as everything through Calvary, and somehow it just starts to work out. I begin to love righteousness, and hate sin. Whereas before I was walking in the Spirit in this fashion, I rather hated righteousness by nature, and loved my sin. As I grow in this area, gladness begins to crowd out the darkness of my heart. And I too can be anointed with this oil just as our Lord was. Though I confess I still have a great great deal to go. Christ’s justification for me, eventuates obedience and an expanding faith. I now see grace for what it really is…I used to think it was just forgiveness so I could go to heaven, what a deception, what a limited view of grace…what a tragedy that this is how most people see it. Grace forgives me that I may be transformed by it through the Spirit via humility to be more like Christ as I die, and he lives through me.

Any external rule I make to this, or any effort I put into it leads me to beggarly things…
I am caused to loosen my grip on the cross, and the eyes of self lead me to self loathing, yet I must get up and look to Jesus over again, Lord I am weak…help me to be you. I am also staggeringly aware that my grasping of these phenomenal truths are still weak and paltry. I have yet to allow it entirely to become my singular driving philosophy as it did for Paul…I still struggle with absolute surrender…and I hate that.

sermonindex May 1, 2010

WOW!

This is the mostest mega-awesome thread ever read. All these posts and comments send chill bumps.

I am here in all of this with you.

Consider 'yours truly' onboard.

ok, now this is kinda' different.
Still it's one of those hart to heart things:
Ps. 42:1,2
Mt. 5:6
Ps. 107:35

There is one special thing that became cause to focus in on our justification. It's a song that triggers recognizing the completeness of our justification more than anything, besides the Bible plainly spelling this out.

Whenever, by whatever means, this melody comes mind, it keeps on running like the energizer bunny. When it is heard by a soloist or group, sung in assembly, or just thought of -i can't help it- but, it keeps on ringing through consciousness even when things get extremely busy. It will take a lickin' and keep on tickin'.
(oh, enough of the advert. hook lines)

Personal opinion sez this hymn is nothing like all the others, that often seem to me like so many different, (as Keith Green would say,) 'funeral dirges'.

This hymn was written by Charitie Lees Smith, born 1841 in The Emerald Isle, the locale of Dublin. She was a minister's daughter in the Church of Ireland.

Not much is known of this woman's life, but it seems she was widowed twice: although she married Arthur Bancroft in 1869, she died under the name Charitie de Cheney in California in 1923.

Charitie published her poetry in leaflet form as early as 1860, and a number of her collected works were eventually published as "Within the Veil" in 1867.

The lyrics to this hymn were written in 1863, entitled, “The Advocate.”

This hymn was seldom sung in most church's i attended growing up. (Maybe being 19th century Celtic Orthodoxy had something to do with that, Evangelicals hardly ever sing the orthodox songs?)

The musical group Selah was noticed singing this hymn a few years back, and their rendering was played here like a broken record.

When my oldest sister's clan came back to the states on furlough from Ireland, at one of our 'smaller' family get togethers, she confided of it's Biblical significance, which very unlike 'mua', had not even been looked into.

i just liked the song because of listening Selah's recording.

The few local families, of this many family tribal get together broke bread in fellowship.

One young neice, God gifts with astounding ability to transcribe songs and play various musical instruments 'by ear' and by sheet. After the meal, she was asked to write it out in two staff cleft so i could tablature it to guitar.

With her lil' task completed (in less than 7 minutes), she scurried to the piano to 'test' it, and continued playing. Soon, all 24 of us joined her there. We all ended up singing along. The house shook briefly for just a moment, and we all looked at each other surprised. The little kids were asking,"what was that?"

Most have passed it off, but everybody wondered then.

We continued worshipping in song together.

The evening concluded in prayer.

Since this hymn was brought to greater attention, many scriptures related to what i often hum have since been recognized.

Although all relative scriptures known are not listed here, included with these lyrics as a starter list for those interested in cross-referencing further.

What was named "The Advocate" when first written has become known as "Before the Throne (of God Above)", and though variations of this song have been heard, this is how it first became known to me:


I.
Before the throne of God above

I have a strong and perfect plea. (Heb 4:15,16)

A great High Priest whose Name is Love (Heb 4:14; I Jn. 4:8,16)

Who ever lives and pleads for me. (Heb 7:25)


Chorus:
My name is graven on His hands, (Isa 49:16)

My name is written on His heart.(I Pet.5:6,7)

I know that while in Heaven He stands(Acts 7:55,56)

No tongue can bid me thence depart. (Rom 8:34)


II.
When Satan tempts me to despair (Luke 22:31,32)

And tells me of the guilt within,(Rev.12:10)

Upward I look and see Him there (Acts 7:55,56)

Who made an end of all my sin. (Is. 38:17; Col 2:13,14)


III.
Because the sinless Savior died(Heb.4:15)

My sinful soul is counted free.(II Cor. 5:21)

For God the just is satisfied(Ps.7:11;Is.53:10,11)

To look on Him and pardon me. (Rom 3:24,25,26,5:9)


IV.
Behold Him there the risen Lamb, (Rev 5:6)

My perfect spotless righteousness, (I Cor 1:30; I Peter 1:18,19)

The great unchangeable I AM, (Heb 13:8; John 8:58)

The King of glory and of grace,(I Tim. 6:15,16; Col.3:4; Rom. 5:15,16)


Finale:
One in Himself I cannot die.(Jn. 3:16,36; Eph 2:5; Tit. 3:7)

My soul is purchased by His blood, (Acts 20:28)

My life is hid with Christ on high, (Col 3:3)

With Christ my Savior and my God! (Tit 2:13)


The Benefits of meditating on justification???

REALIZATION:
Meditating His justification for me
makes it more and more real.

We are His poimea.

Can anybody anywhere find anything at all, in whatever aspect of our lives or far removed from them, that is not covered and paid for in Jesus Christ's self-sacraficial bloody purchase towards our redemption?

He bowed down to become like this very flesh He formed from red dust, and now stands seated as our flesh and bone Salvation. His justification is the beginning and the end in this One Great Work: His work in us onto His work through us.

He is our Living Lord, God, and King over not just this world, but every moment and movement of the whole Universe for all time and eternity.

Our justification in Him speaks that those thinking of even just touching us with harmful intent best beware, cause now we all have a Brother watching over us like a hawk. Yes, we always pray that Our Father will forgive them in the evil and the good recieved, because they just don't understand; but final judgement rests totally in His hands. We were once blind like them and still walk earth in the same type skin, but God gas given us vision and a completely different life. The desire is that all will know the life that he gives through our justification.

When our Abba chose us for adoption, long before we were ever twinklings in our parents eyes, our lifes' courses laid naked in His sight. He knew us and loved us before we ever came to be.

He chose who He would justify.
Praise Him and recognize what He has done for us.


We are part of Our Father's inheritance given to Our Messiah, and He is everything in us. He is everything onto us! Our justification cannot, NO NEVER can be 'taken with just a grain of salt'. Our justification is a matter of life forever with Him, or both the first and second death.
In me, every time the fruit of sin yeilds from walking in my fleshy sinful nature, i picture myself spitting in the face of Jesus on the cross. Those are the times i am the one mocking His justification given through His atoning death.

Justification is hardly a puzzle piece that gets accidentally shuffled under the rug because something else grabs our attention. Just because we can't yet piece this whole puzzle completely together is no reason to give up figuring it out. Doing that, we could end up walking on the key to assembling the whole thing in the first place. That key piece is our justification in Lord Jesus.

Our lives depend on His justification.
Without this, nothing follows.


Wind blown
because of He
who showed me i
was shattered by sin.
i was just a carpenter,
but now i'm a King's kid:
Justified freely by His Grace.

your truly,

gregg


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twayneb May 1, 2010

I still struggle with absolute surrender…and I hate that.

Show me a man who does not, and I will show you a man who has already departed this life. Praise God that a revelation of righteousness makes the surrender so much easier to do.

Travis

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Areadymind May 1, 2010

What an amazing hymn, thank you for sharing that Gregg.

I also liked this quote, "Our lives depend on His justification. Without this, nothing follows."

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hmmhmm May 1, 2010

wanted to share the ending of Thomas Brooks "nine consolations" , his meditation on this is worth the read...

know for your comfort that imputed righteousness will give you the greatest boldness before God's judgment seat. There is an absolute and indispensable necessity of a perfect righteousness wherewith to appear before God. The holiness of God's nature, the righteousness of His government, the severity of His Law, and the terror of wrath calls aloud upon the sinner for a complete righteousness without which there is no standing in judgment (Psalm 1:5). That righteousness only is able to justify us before God which is perfect, and that hath no defect or blemish in it, such as may abide the trial before His judgment seat, such as may fitly satisfy His justice and make our peace with Him. And consequently, by this the Law of God is fulfilled…such a righteousness as He requires, as will stand before Him, and satisfy His justice (Romans 10:3).

This is the crowning comfort to a sensible and understanding soul, that he stands righteous before a judgment seat in that full, exact, perfect, complete, matchless, spotless, peerless, and most acceptable righteousness of Christ imputed to him.

It is a complete and unspotted righteousness, an unblameable righteousness, and unblemished righteousness. And therefore God can neither in justice except nor object to it. In this righteousness the believer lives, in this righteousness the believer dies, and in this righteousness believers shall arise and appear before the judgment seat of Christ to the deep admiration of all the elect angels, to the transcendent terror and horror of all reprobates, and to the matchless joy and triumph of all on Christ's right hand, who shall then shout and sing, "I will greatly rejoice in the Lord, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with jewels" (Isaiah 61:10).

Oh, how Christ in this great day will be admired and glorified in all His saints (2 Thes. 1:10), when every saint, wrapped up in this fine linen, in this white robe of Christ's righteousness, shall shine more gloriously than ten thousand suns! In the great Day of the Lord, when the saints shall stand before the tribunal of God, clothed in the perfect righteousness of Jesus Christ, they shall then stand, they shall then be pronounced righteous even in the court of divine justice, which sentence will fill their souls with comfort and the souls of sinners with astonishment (Revelation 20:12; 12:10).

Suppose we saw the believing sinner holding up his hand at God's bar—the books opened, the accuser of the brethren present, the witnesses ready, and the Judge on the bench thus bespeaking the sinner at the bar (Romans 7:12, 14, 16; Galatians 3:10): "O sinner, sinner, thou standest here indicted before Me for many millions of sins of commission and for many millions of sins of omission. Thou hast broken My holy, just, and righteous Laws beyond all human conception or expression, and hereof thou art proved guilty. What hast thou now to say for thyself why thou shouldst not be eternally cast?" Upon this the sinner pleads guilty. But withal he earnestly desires that he may have time and liberty to plead for himself and to offer his reasons why that dreadful sentence "Go, you cursed…" should not be passed upon him (Matthew 25:41). The liberty desired being granted by the Judge, the sinner pleads that his Surety, Jesus Christ, hath by His blood and sufferings given full and complete satisfaction to divine justice and that He hath paid down upon the nail the whole debt at once, and that it can never stand with the holiness and unspotted justice of God to demand satisfaction twice (Hebrews 10:10, 14).

If the Judge shall further object, "Ay, but sinner, sinner, the Law requireth an exact and perfect righteousness in the personal fulfilling of it. Now, sinner, where is thy exact and perfect righteousness? (Galatians 3:10). Upon which the believing sinner very readily, cheerfully, humbly, and boldly replies, "My righteousness is upon the bench: 'In the Lord have I righteousness' (Isaiah 45:24). Christ, my Surety, hath fulfilled the Law on my behalf."

His obeying the Law to the full, His perfect conforming to its commands, His doing, as well as His dying obedience is by grace made over and reckoned to me in order to my justification and salvation. And this is my plea, by which I will stand before the Judge of all the world. Upon this, the sinner's plea is accepted as good in Law, and accordingly he is pronounced righteous and goes away glorying and rejoicing, triumphing and shouting it out, "Righteous, righteous, righteous, righteous!" "In the Lord shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory" (Isaiah 45:25). And thus you see that there are nine springs of strong consolation that flow into your souls through the imputation of Christ's righteousness unto you.

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jlosinski May 3, 2010

Assurance.

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TaylorOtwell May 3, 2010

Before the Throne of God Above is a great song!

Thanks for posting it.

With care in Christ,
Taylor

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