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sermonindex Jun 5, 2010

I don't know what is happening to me this week or the past month or so. I have this spirit of judgement with me all the time, everytime someone does something i am judging them constantly inside me. When i hear something bad happen their is something that rejoices inside of me. I am always complaining and getting angry and very bitter towards everyone. Its like my inner man is becoming more corrupt and corrupt. Its not like the holy spirit is revealing to me my sin, their is something evil really happening inside of me, with all this unbelief and me fighting just to believe in Christ and walk in God's way, now all of this happening, i was struggling so strong with lust the past week to and it has got a little better but i know it will start again. Evertytime i sin it feels like the more i start disbelieving and the holyspirit leaves me. I just can't take it anymore, i have cried in agony for so long with no deliverance and my heart and me is just growing worse and worse. I don't know if i ever was saved before but i can tell you that the holy spirit lived in me at one time speaking in me producing righteousness, but i have fallen so much, i have never wanted to leave the faith or lose Christ but now it seems he is being stripped from me completely. Why does God allow this to happen? I am afraid i am going to go completely blind to the truth that i will never believe again, i don't want this i am so wicked and sinful, i dont know if their is a chance for me anymore. I did everything everyone was telling me to do reading the scripture and prayer, i mean i read almost all of the new testament in the past few months and i have kept in the word, gone to bible studies, i have tried to separate from the world but hear i am again, i know most our tired of this but do you know how it feels to read the scripture without doubt after doubt and trying to fight those doubts to no avail. Praying and hoping God will finally answer you after it feels like over a thousand times you have asked for forgiveness. I have at times felt like he was going to deliver to me but he didn't. I just can't go on anymore and i a m sick of posting this continuously to you all, i just want to tell you how Christ has delivered me finally but i don't know if that will ever happen. If anyone could please plead to God for me as i have daily for so long, i can't go on anymore or who to turn to.

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Nellie Jun 5, 2010

Father,In Jesus Name, set the Captive free.

sermonindex Jun 5, 2010

Judgementalism is a direct result of legalism.

Legalism is following rules "you think are right"to do in your own mind.

"Thinking doing something that will make you right" is the result of failing to fix our confidence in Jesus' crucifixion who through His sacrifice has made us right with God already.

Legalism leads a person into sin. Failure to rely on God in making us right we walk in the flesh (aka:our nature to sin, or our sin nature), and not according to God's Spirit.

Naturally, it leads to a critical spirit, and as a result of this, we become discontent.


Though we may not yet understand any hard fast mechanics regarding this, her is the general flow regarding the way it works; and i speak from experience brother.

Unbelief--> (in Jesus sacrafice to make us right)
unto
Fear--> (of not meeting God's standard of being right[eous] with Him)
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Legalism--> (Devising means in our own strength to accomplish being right[eous] with God
unto
Acts of sin--> (resulting from the constriction of legalism, and watching to see whether we are following the rules (rather than following Jesus)
unto
Judgementalism--> ( to think of ourselves better than we really are, by making others worse than they are in our own minds)
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Critical spirit--> (resulting from Pride established through Judgementalism.)


Romans 5:13 to 8:4 will get you well grounded in learning the human condition and what our Saviour has done for us. Use your imagination and see yourself dying with Him on His cross. See yourself buried with Him in His death. See yourself ressurected with Him. (This is actually what the the book of Romans is talking about in the aforementioned passages.

The whole book of Galatians addresses the problem you are dealing with as well.

We consider (reckon) ourselves as dead, being crucified with Christ, (Gal. 2:20,21). We consider ourselves raised to new life with Jesus Christ's in his ressurection.

The Law is our moral compass and not a rulebook. Nobody is made right(eous) by God through following laws and rules. In Isaiah, we are told that any and all of our (self-effort in) righteousness is like filthy menstral rags. The Law is an indicator of how we are really doing in our relationship with our Heavenly Father. The more we grow into walking in the Spirit, the more we naturally conform to God's ideal, because we grow into the love of God, and not because we are struggling to keep rules.

It's a hard road brother, but you are not the only one learning to better walk the straight narrow and narrower path.

This rule keeping, in the flesh is bound up in coveteousness, which is idolatry. It is the human desire to be like God on our own terms. It does make us both blind and deaf to the (only) Way, the (only) Truth, and the (only) Life: Jesus, Annointed of God as Messiah. When we follow through the process of legalism, we begin to notice our sin and end up paying attention to this, instead of our Master. (Looking to your sin, trying to figure out your wicked decietful heart, etc. will only lead you into more and more sin, which quickly brings one into bondage. Sin become your master, and we both know, no man can serve two masters.

Choose to focus only on Jesus. Die with Him. Consider yourself buried with Him, and know the power of His ressurection as your final state.

This is something we all contend with until we physically die. i will definitely pray towards your growth in developing this way of God's righteousness as a daily lifestyle for you.

Oh, one other thing that has helped me immensely:
John 17:17; 14:15, 21, 23.
(u prolly knoe thiz awreddy tho, hunh?)
To "keep" really is not doing them in your own strength. It means to fix your sights on God's ideal and do not focus on, say, your sin or your sin nature, for example.

Johnny Mac's sermon, "Dealing with Habitual Sin" was put foreward as a thread on this site some time ago. In commenting on this, i promised to write a thread called "the above 2 mentioned things". I guess now would be an excellent time to fulfill this, as it regards the issues of your concerns, brother.

Give me a day or two, and watch for it.

Agape,
Gregg
Acts 20:32

p.s. Thanks for the Matthew 5:6 pic. It's my desktop background. What's the URL for your website (again)?

"The kingdom then is not for weaklings, waverers, and compromisers... It is not for Balaam, the rich young ruler, Pilate, and Demas... It is not won by means of deferred prayers, unfulfilled promises, broken resolutions and hesitant testimonies. It is for strong and sturdy men like Joseph, Nathan, Elijah, Daniel, Mordecai, and Peter... Stephen... and Paul. And let us not forget such valiant women as Ruth, Deborah, Esther, and Lydia"
~William Hendrickson~


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sermonindex Jun 5, 2010

Brother, many believers are in the same boat, your not alone. There be people that frequent this site that would tell you the same thing.

The bible says that He will never leave us or abandon us, which means that He won't even though it doesn't "feel" like it. Even when we make the constant choice of sinning, "He will never leave us or forsake us".

We have got to believe God when He says that. So when you say that the Holy Spirit has left you, where in the bible does it say that He has? Let God be true and every man be a liar.

Brother, prayer is not what you need. You need to make the right choice, "Submit yourself unto God, Resist the devil and he will flee". No amount of prayer for you will cause you to make the right choices.

As believers, when we sin we want to sin else we'd stand against it. Now, in standing against it if we find ourselves sinning, it's no longer we doing the sinning, but the sin that is dwelling in our members. Paul even said that "In me, that is my flesh, dwelleth no good thing".

I have been there. Resisting is hard work. Trusting God to work on our behalf is hard work. Not being able to physically do anything but to stand is hard work. I've stood against my own flesh and believe me the flesh has a power that works against you. And if there is a sin in our flesh, that sin will manifest itself in ways that you don't want it to, but it's real and believe me it's hard to resist, but if we endure it, then things will start to open up in the Spirit. But if we continually yield to it, than we can't go any further until we stop wanting to give into that sin. In that infantile world of sin repent, sin repent, there is only that feeling of guilt and condemnation until we get so sick of ourselves that we'll do anything to get out of it and then we learn to hate it and desire to abandon all attempts to please our fallen nature.

Bible4life, we've been told a lot of lies in our early beginnings. What we should have been told right off the hop that the Christian life is a life of hard times with sweet rewards. But what we have heard instead is just the sweets and not the hardships.

"Many are the afflictions of the righteous, but the Lord continually delivers us from them all".

You in all your sin and miserable condition are called "Righteous", it's hard to believe I know, but that is the standards to which God almighty has laid down for all those that put their trust in Jesus Christ. But listen to the words, "Many are the afflictions".

Expect many afflictions to come your way, this is the way of the Christian, BUT, He doesn't stop there. He doesn't leave us there in our afflictions forever, but He delivers us from it every time.

I want you to do something that you just won't feel like doing. You won't like to do this for all the tea in china. Your flesh will fight you every step of the way. But I want you to put on some praise music, music that lifts up Jesus Christ, not sing about Him, but words that sing to Him. Hosanna Integrity, or Scripture in Song etc.. Put that on and sing with it, praising the Lord. While your listening/praising the Lord, go and do some laundry, wash the dishes, clean your bedroom. In no time your going to feel refreshed and know that that your troubles were not as bad as you thought they were.

sermonindex Jun 5, 2010

thank you guys.

sermonindex Jun 5, 2010

bible4life

You are not a wimp or deficient but you are under the hand of God and you can reckon until the cows come home and it will only lead to more despair and disappointment. The only way is to stand in the light that God is giving you and wait on Him with patience and thanksgiving for the suffering will seem nothing once He reveals Himself to you in the way that He revealed Himself to other seekers after holiness.

Brenda

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learn Jun 5, 2010

If you haven't done so, then I would suggest getting personal discipleship/bibleship with 1-2 very strong Christians preferably twice a week. A group bibleship (if that's what you're having) is not suitable right now. You need strong Christians that really know what you are going through and that can help pray, guide and encourage you. A forum like this is far from enough.

Most likely because of your past sins, the devil has gained a strong foothold and causing all these doubts and problems you are facing. Sometimes people find complete relief pretty soon but at least for now, the path for you to take is one of continual perseverance, sheer determination and action to resist the devil.

For one, you can keep reminding and determine to believe wholeheartedly certain bible phrases that you need to use when these doubts appear. For example, Isaiah 55,56 that whoever seeks the Lord and determine to follow Him, God will save. Another one is Luke 17:6 if you have faith as small as a mustard seed... Apply this verse to your situation eg: even though doubts may appear whether its due to the flesh or through the devil, I will purposefully and resolutely believe that I have this tiny faith (mustard seed size) that God is real and He has saved me and that I am willing to wait however long it takes etc. And you need to put on the armor of god in resisting the devil's schemes(Ephesians 6:10-18).

This is what I think you should try to do. Persevering patiently (I know its hard but you don't have any choice at the moment) and taking the above action.

sermonindex Jun 8, 2010

my heart keeps getting harder and i seem to keep on getting blinder, to the truth, if this is demonic pray the demons be cast out of me in the name of Jesus, if this is Gods doing ask that he have mercy on me.

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learn Jun 9, 2010

I just want to clarify that I don't think the demons are in you, just that they may be tormenting you from the outside. I apologize if I have not been clear. I will offer a prayer for you.

sermonindex Jun 17, 2010

I think i have realized what my problem is. I think i have lost my faith in Christ. I haven't wanted to but over the past 3 years my heart has just kept getting harder and harder and i somehow must have just lost my faith during all of this and my trials. Last night i realized this and i tried to believe on Christ and for a few moments i felt a joy and love and peace and strength but then it faded away from me and am doubting again. If you want to pray for my faith to be regained i think that is what the problem. Whether i had true saving faith before i don't know but i now presently have lost my faith in Christ. I want it back and have wanted it but it will take a outpouring of the holy spirit for that to happen because i have tried to believe for over a year now with no help, just fell back to doubting again.

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Miccah Jun 18, 2010

Read "Practicing the presence of God" by Brother Lawrence. You should be able to get a downloadable (legally free) version online, or the soft cover book cost is minimal.

sermonindex Jun 19, 2010

If anyone wants to call me to pray for my deliverance with me my phone number is 779-279-5548 if you don't get an answer leave a voice mail and tell me a good time to call back. I either fall away completely or the Lord saves me from this.

T
TrueWitness Jun 19, 2010

Praying and hoping God will finally answer you after it feels like over a thousand times you have asked for forgiveness. I have at times felt like he was going to deliver to me but he didn't.

You are "hoping and wishing" for an answer instead of having true faith. You believe only after you see the answer. And when the answer doesn't come, you conclude that God has failed you. I hope I am not coming off as too harsh. If you truly want help, you will thank me for being direct. Deliverance from besetting sins comes from trusting, not trying. If you are trying, you aren't trusting. And if you are trusting, you aren't trying (struggling). Next time you are sorely tempted by lust (or any besetting sin), relax, don't panic. Just close your eyes and tell the Lord that you are now trusting Him to live your life for you. And He will, and He isn't swayed by fleshly lust. Admit to Him and yourself that you can't be holy by your own self effort. Glory in your weakness (inability) and you will find that the power of Christ will dwell in you. Keep your eyes on Jesus being confident and assured that He who indwells you is working and manifesting Himself in and through you.

G
Goldminer Jun 19, 2010

My question would be do you have other brothers that you are in close community with? That is other than the sermonindex. The word says that:

Ecc 4:12 And if one prevail against him, two shall withstand him; and a threefold cord is not quickly broken.

We need community. We need the support of the brethern, and we need it more than just online.

If you are not finding that at your church, you are in fellowship aren't you? if not, you need to be, find another church where you can live shoulder to shoulder with family members in the Lord.

Next you need to take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ:

2Cr 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

It sounds like you are focussed on your sins and faults. We become like what we behold. If we focus on Him, we become like Him, if on ourselves and our sins we place ourselves in a vicious whirlpool of despair.

Phl 4:8 ¶ Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things [are] honest, whatsoever things [are] just, whatsoever things [are] pure, whatsoever things [are] lovely, whatsoever things [are] of good report; if [there be] any virtue, and if [there be] any praise, think on these things.
9 Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.

Isa 26:3 Thou wilt keep [him] in perfect peace, [whose] mind [is] stayed [on thee]: because he trusteth in thee.

Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. But how do we hear? Do we come to the word to just say we did, or do we take it to heart, to let it change us? Are we looking for it to transform us into His image? Or are we just doing it because we are supposed to. There is no life in the latter.

I would say you are in Romans 6,7&8 right now. You are seeing your sinfulness and it is hell to you. But the provision is there=

Romans 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 6:13 Neither yield ye your members [as] instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members [as] instruments of righteousness unto God.

We have all beat ourselves up because of sin. But the fact that you are bothered by your sin tells me that you are His, and that you are saved, otherwise you wouldn't care.

I know I am only going by the little bit you have shared here, but my heart tells me you are focussed on the wrong thing, your sin. You need to focus on the answer to your sin, Jesus. Praise Him, worship Him, declare yourself dead unto sin, and walk in newness of life.

Have you been baptised in water? This is an important step for burying the old man.

Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life
6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also [in the likeness] of [his] resurrection:
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with [him], that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Water baptism is very important to put off the old man.

My biggest admonition would be to find other brothers, very solid in the Lord, and allow them to mentor you. If you are willing to allow them to speak into your life you will find much help and encouragement. If you are in a dusty old church where nobody cares about anybody, get out and find a love filled, bible solid church, and get the fellowship you need. If you are spending long hours on the computer and expecting SI to be the fellowship you need, it will not be. You need other believers with flesh on to impart their life to you, and you to them.

Lastly every time the devil whispers one of those lies to you, as Jesus did, declare the word over him. Speak outloud that you will not recieve his lies. Declare that sin will not have dominion over you and that you have the mind of Christ.

1Cr 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

Phl 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of [his] good pleasure.

Phl 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform [it] until the day of Jesus Christ:

Every time you feel the urge to condemn yourself quote these words over yourself. The devil is a liar and is trying to stumble you.

If you are indulging in sin of any kind, allowing filth into your eyes through the internet, TV, music, you give the enemy an open door. Stop it immediately. You can use your frustration with faith and believing as an excuse to return to former things and that will send you spiraling even more down into the enemy's clutches. It will bring death. If anything causes you to stumble get rid of it, movies, etc. Throw them out. Saturate yourself with the truth. Replace negative thought with word. Refuse to give place to them. You want a movie that will lift your spirit, watch "Amazing Grace". It is about William Wilberforce. I watch it regularly because it lifts my spirit in worship.

I will pray for you, that you find some true brothers to share your burdens. Peace and joy to you in the Holy Ghost.

L
live4jc Jun 21, 2010

Hi John,

Just wanted to share a few things, since there are some things God has been working into my life recently, which I felt might relate to what's been going on in your life.

One area God's been deepening my understanding of, has to do the solution God has for us, when we are overcome by a sense of our sinfulness. Like, you I have been prone to examine myself in the light of God's word and what I know about His holiness, and to be driven to a sense of despair at times, because I feel that as a Christian, I should not see some of the sinful attitudes that I see in my heart. I believe that without question, if we are a believer, the Holy Spirit will bring about a deep conviction of sin, when this is necessary. But there is also another facet of the Holy Spirit's 'job description' ( if I can reverently put it that way ) in addition to the role of convicting us of sin…..and that is to 'magnify Christ'.

There's a recent post that's been made in the 'Articles and Sermons' area of this web site that's titled, "A Mirror", by David Wilkerson. This article makes a great point that what we LOOK AT is what we become, and so by looking at Christ, we become more like him. Sometimes, I think we (I) can focus our attention instead on our sin. Becoming aware of sins that the Holy Spirit has put his finger on is necessary , however once aware of our sins, we need to look beyond them, and to focus on Christ, and the great provision he's made for our sins.

I heard a sermon today which dovetailed with this whole idea. One of the statements made by the pastor, was a quote from Martyn Lloyd Jones. I might not have it exactly right but it said something to the effect that one of the greatest things we need to learn as Christians, is not to listen to ourselves, but instead to 'talk to ourselves'.

What did he mean by this ?

I believe he meant the same thing that we observe when we we read the words that David prayed, as recorded in Psalm 42:5. "Why are you in despair, O my soul? And why have you become disturbed within me? Hope in God, for I shall again praise Him For the help of His presence."


So now, how would we apply this to your situation or my situation when we feel overcome by a sin that we have been battling with ? It seems like at times, we can become filled with a sense of our sin, and Satan threatens to steal away all ground of hope and peace from our hearts. During these times, even some of the greatest promises that the Bible holds for us as believers, can seem like a distant rainbow to us, and may not seem to grant us any hope in our condition. However, I believe that as we take God at his word and refuse to give into despair, but instead, we 'confess' God's great promises and speak them back to him and to our soul (not talking 'positive confession' here), then there is a victory that will be ours in the end.

I think the crux of the matter is to focus on what God has promised and not on what our emotions may be telling us. So even if everything that's in us is telling us that 'we have exhausted God's grace' because of something we have done, we can in faith proclaim the truth of God's word (e.g. "If we confess our sin he is faithful and just to forgive us our sin and to cleanse us of all unrighteousness")

Here's one last verse that reminds us that God wants above all, our trust in Him, our confidence in the soul cleansing power of his blood :

Hebrews 10:35
"Cast not away therefore your confidence, which has great recompense of reward."

God bless you brother !

In Jesus,
John

sermonindex Jun 23, 2010

brothers and sisters thank you.

sermonindex Jul 3, 2010

I just wanted to update everyone on me. I went for almost a week with not having as hard as a heart as i usually do and felt as if the Lord was going to do something. THen i went back to work feeling week as possible in the flesh, could not serve God with a right heart at all, bad thoughts in my heart and mind continuosly. I tried to serve him and obey him but it was all in the flesh and my heart was just doing it because I had to, it really frustrated me. Then my work , well i am a housekeeper at an assisted living place and they hold Mass and a Bible study, and one day a few weeks ago I heard them reading the verse about the eye of a needle and the lady looked at me listening and said I bet you never heard of that before meaning the verse, and I said no I do, and then I went on to explain what it meant and she was suprised, i am saying this not to lift myself up but to explain the story. I told her about me applying for the ministry for college and everything.She then made a comment that they should try to get me involved with the activity i believe for the bible study. Well i said to myself that would be great and i began to think that this job I can't stand really might have a reason why i am here afterall. I had went out looking for a job afer a bad time at the family christian store or dissapointing time i quit them, had no money coming in and I knew from all my bad job experiences already the past 3 years that i was sick of doing it my way, I cried out to God that I needed a job and that I wanted his will to be done and whatever he wanted me to work is where i would go. Well i applied at this place and said it is in your hands Lord. Well they ended up firing the housekeeper to hire me and i was like wow, this has to be Gods will. Well the job got really hard and bad and terrible voices were attacking me for weeks as you guys know. My heart was getting hardened and I was like is this your will God for me to suffer and get more harder towards you. Well I had an incident where one of the caregivers and elderly were compl;aining about my work and this was after other complaints before that and i walked out and said thats it i can't take it anymore i quit and left a phone message telling my manager i quit. Anyways i drove around that day crying out in my bad mood to God and no comfort the seemed to be usual for me.I got ahold of my manager because he was calling me and he gave me the job back and wrote me and the girl up. Well i continued to work and i beagan to question working their and last week i went into the building where they were having bible study and mass and i decided to walk in their with my Bible past the activity leader, and she asked me if i wanted to lead a bible study and she said she was going to make it happen. I began to say wow, maybe this is Gods will. But i didn't hear anything for a week and said oh well and i said to God on wednesday Lord i am going to look for another job because i don't think the whole Bible study thing is going to happen but if it is your will can you show me. Then that sameday my manager gave me the thumbs up for the Bible study and then the activity leader sat me down and explained that i would start next wednesday and she made it sound like i was going to do it more often. She said i can use any bible verse and say anything i want and i can have 15 minutes possibly more. I was the happiest man alive and then i also found out today i got accepted into clearcreek bible college. But i again my hardened heart came again this week and i felt like all week i was being blinded from the truth again, i don't know what is wrong again. Please pray.

sermonindex Jul 3, 2010

Last night my conscious and my heart seemed to grow harder and harder again, i just can't stop this, with all the scripture reading and prayer, it just won't go away, please continue in prayer for me i am so helpless.

T
thomasm Jul 3, 2010

Hi Bible4life, Jesus's answer is always yes and amen, when we put, the little faith we have, in the finished work, HE DID at the cross. All the bible studying won't help, until we grasp, the it is finished, concept of the gospel.

God love's you in spite of you and your doubt.
Your sins are already forgiven in spite of your unbelief.
You were delivered from the power of Satan at the cross.
You are a new creation, not by your struggle, but his working in you.
You are hid in Christ, and seated with him at the right hand of the Father.

It is Finished, stop believing the lie and believe the truth, Satan loves to keep us in a pity party, because it keeps us from experiencing the great things that God has already done for us in Christ, through the Gospel.

It is finished, the last words of Jesus on the cross have been a great help in my life and walk in this new life that Jesus brought into being two thousand years ago, faith doesn't produce the life, it only opens our eyes to what HE has already done.

In the name of Jesus, this attack of Satan is broken on your life, Jesus open his eyes to the reality of who he is in YOU.

God loves you

In Christ Tom

sermonindex Jul 4, 2010

It is getting very hard today, i am going to continue to cry out for mercy, please i know this is geting to be a continous thing but please i don't want to fall away, please beg od for him to have mercy on me too, i am highly doubting i am saved. I talked to a brother tonight in the Lord and he is so strog in the Lord and is growing stronger in the faith and it was very discouraging, i just feel so lost.

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