II Corinthians 1:20 | SermonIndex

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Areadymind Jun 12, 2010

"For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us."

I have heard numerous different takes on what this means, I listened to a sermon by Zac Poonen on here the other day, and I am inclined to agree with his interpretation, but I was wondering if anyone had a depth of insight into this verse. If so how has it worked in your life?

I have a funny feeling that some of the interpretations I have heard in the past are a little wonky.

Grateful for any real insight brothers and sisters.

-Jer

sermonindex Jun 12, 2010

All the promises are just that.
All means all doesn't it?

If thou canst believe, ALL THINGS are possible.

The problem is we all are failures in believing, having only a measure of this.

It is IN HIM that these things are realized in us, onto all, through our reliance on Him. He was, is, and always will be true and faith(ful) onto His own testimony.
Ps. 138:2

If we don't believe God has, does, or will do a certain thing, he won't. It's just that simple.

Human reasoning destroys childlike faith that God does as He is: Yahweh Emanuel Yeshuah.

The name which God gave Moshe at the burning bush was "Eiyah Ascher Eiyah" meaning I AM AS I WAS (AND) ALWAYS SHALL BE AS I AM."

Is God a liar, or are we?

So many say, well God just doesn't do that anymore (because of their own unbelief). In a way they are right: God will not do that for them because they do not believe that He will. Then they call God a liar saying God Himself contradicts his own nature, when in fact, they are the ones who are walking talking contradictions.

A person can reason and rationalize away this promise if they want, yet they fail to recognize that God says "Is. 55:8, 9."

ciao!

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sojourner7 Jun 12, 2010

All the promises of the New Covenant;
atonement, redemption, salvation, and
sanctification are fulfilled and met
in Christ.

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nj15 Jun 13, 2010

Amen Sojourner, agree completely. Though I would add Glorification to your list. (though all it does is summarize it.)
Naoh J.

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Areadymind Jun 13, 2010

Sojourner, I think you hit the nail on the head. I would also ask to whom belongs the "yea and amen?" Is that Gods Amen or is it our Amen to Jesus being the fulfillment of those precious promises?

Now, it seems to me that Paul is throwing this idea into a context and is being used as a metaphor to back up some sort of responsibility he is expecting from the Corinthians. Now how do these two ideas connect?

I will try to be more simple in my question.

Q: Verse 20 is a (true, and powerfully true) metaphor used to emphasize that the Corinthians heed Paul's questions starting in verse 15-19, and then his exhortations from verse 21-23. How does the true metaphor marry these ideas together?

Q2: For anyone tracking, if Sojourners interpretation is right and true, how then does this work our in YOUR life. (I am not talking classroom theory here.)

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StarofG0D Jun 14, 2010

Alreadmind,

I am curious as to what message you heard by zac poonen about this verse.

Thanks,

Many praises to His Name

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Areadymind Jun 14, 2010

I believe this was the sermon Star.

https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=12679&commentView=itemComments

What Sojourner said is similar to what Brother Zac said in this message.

I honestly do not think I was spirit led enough to come to this conclusion on my own, all I know is that I have heard people talk on this verse for years and every sermon I heard, I always felt the interpretation was off slightly (even though I could not for the life of me really say what was right.) Then I heard this and It seemed to make far more sense to me.

I had been praying for about a month about the passage, and was really asking the Lord for wisdom on it, then I just literally happened to click on this message one morning after I had just been praying about it, not even knowing that was what this sermon was about.

Thus it was a real blessing to me personally. Although even in this sermon, he does not connect the ideas in the context of the passage like I am curious to ascertain. I believe this is a topical sermon on the verse in question, and not an exegesis of the context of 2 Corinthians 1. Although I was listening to it while at work which does not always allow me to pay 100% attention.