BSBKJVWEBYLTASVBBEWMBT4TDBY|HymnsMusicDonate
Menu
Devotional

Insane Asylum Words

G
Goldminer Jun 17, 2010

I read this quote in the book "Living Water" by Brother Yun.


Could we with ink the ocean fill,
And were the skies of parchment made,
Were every stalk on earth a quill,
And every man a scribe by trade,
To write the love of God above,
Would drain the ocean dry;
Nor could the scroll contain the whole,
Tho stretched from sky to sky.

Words found scratched on the wall of and insane asylum in California, 1917

I heard this put to a song some years back by John G. Elliot, but only at a conference. He never recorded it on a CD. Does anyone know if this has been recorded by another worship leader, or individual?

I just love it.

sermonindex Jun 17, 2010

"Living Water"... now that is a good book.

Agapeo,
g

(It's a hymn called "The Love of God")

H
hulsey Jun 17, 2010

Dallas Holm sang it. I'm not sure what cd it's on though or if it's even still available.


L
Lysa Jun 17, 2010

The Love of God

The love of God is greater far Than tongue or pen can ever tell;
It goes beyond the highest star, And reaches to the lowest hell;
The guilty pair, bowed down with care, God gave His Son to win;
His erring child He reconciled, And pardoned from his sin.

CHORUS
O love of God, how rich and pure!
How measureless and strong!
It shall for evermore endure
The saints' and angels' song.

When years of time shall pass away, And earthly thrones and kingdoms fall,
When men, who here refuse to pray, On rocks and hills and mountains call,
God's love so sure, shall still endure, All measureless and strong;
Redeeming grace to Adam's race-The saints' and angels' song.

Could we with ink the ocean fill, And were the skies of parchment made,
Were every stalk on earth a quill, And every man a scribe by trade,
To write the love of God above Would drain the ocean dry.
Nor could the scroll contain the whole, Though stretched from sky to sky.

G
Goldminer Jun 17, 2010

Thanks for the tip hulsey, I will check it out. Lysa thank you for the rest of the lyrics. I am excited about that, and Phanetheus it is a great book. I like his autobiography "The Heavenly Man" even better. What an awesome testimony he has, what a humble man he is. What a walking miracle. I was so shocked to find out that it all happened just a few years ago. A real eye opener for me. I guess when you live without persecution and torture you are blindsided. God help us to pray for the persecuted church and to support them in any way we can.

L
Lysa Jun 17, 2010


This is very interesting. Here is another explanation of where the person in the asylum may have gotten the words, it's from a Jewish poem (with 90 stanzas) called the Hadamut:

In the 11th century, there was a Rabbi in the city of Worms, Germany named Meir Ben Isaac Nehorai. Rabbi Meir (Mayer) was the son of Cantor Isaac Nehorai, and in the latter half of that century (1050 or 1096), composed in Aramaic a mystical acrostic poem called Hadamut. Translated into numerous languages, the poem has 90 couplets, and the acrostic weaves the authorÂ’s name into the concluding verses. The poem consists of two parts, the first praising God as ruler of the world and creator of all things, and the second describing the conflict between the Jewish people and the nations of the earth. The poem describes how the people of Israel have peen persecuted and killed through the ages for the sake of GodÂ’s holy name, and how other nations have attempted to persuade the Jews to forsake their faith, and how the Jews have been steadfast, believing that they will be vindicated so that the nations of the earth would know that God has chosen Israel for his eternal glory. (1)

The Hebrew word for truth, emet, is written with the first (aleph), middle (mem) and last (tav) letters of the Hebrew alphabet. When we reach the final letter tav in the order of the letters, we immediately start to dwell on the first letter aleph.

Part of this prayer is as follows:

"If all the heavens were parchment,
if all the trees of the forest were pens,
if all the waters of the sea were ink,
and if every creature was a scribe,
they would not suffice to expound the greatness of The Creator,
and the reflection of His Majesty in Heaven and on Earth,
effortlessly created with the breath of the letter Heh."

This poem was written by Rabbi Meir ben Yitchak of eleventh-century Worms, Germany. It has ninety verses and is one of Judaism's most beloved liturgical poem (piyut). It is written in Aramaic, not Hebrew. The first forty-four verses form a double acrostic of the Aleph-Bait and the remaining verses spell out the author's name and a blessing. (2)

(1)\thttp://subversiveinfluence.com/2009/06/hymns-of-my-youth-106-the-greatest-hymn-ever-written/
(2) http://goo.gl/HlIMY3 (end of article)
(3)\t http://www.tanbible.com/tol_sng/theloveofgod.htm

D
DesertRose Jun 17, 2010

Youtube has a few versions of this song with the lyrics.

Thanks for the post. I needed to be reminded today of God's unfathomable love.
1John 4:19

G
Goldminer Jun 17, 2010

Thanks DesertRose. I will check it out.

I found this with a bit more searching and thought it a great piece of informaton:

~The Love of God (1)


Frederick M. Lehman, author and composer, wrote a pamphlet, in 1948, entitled History of the Song, The Love of God. It tells about the origin of this beloved hymn—

While at camp-meeting in a mid-western state, some fifty years ago in our early ministry, an evangelist climaxed his message by quoting the last stanza of this song. The profound depths of the line moved us to preserve the words for future generations.

Not until we had come to California did this urge find fulfillment, and that at a time when circumstances forced us to hard manual labor.

One day, during short intervals of inattention to our work, we picked up a scrap of paper and, seated upon an empty lemon box pushed against the wall, with a stub pencil, added the (first) two stanzas and chorus of the song.

Since the lines (3rd stanza from the Jewish poem) had been found penciled on the wall of a patient’s room in an insane asylum, the general opinion was that this inmate had written the epic in moments of sanity.

Actually, the key-stanza (third verse) under question as to its authorship was written nearly one thousand years ago by a Jewish songwriter, and put on the score page by F.M. Lehman, a Gentile songwriter, in 1917.

—Selected

++++++++++

The Love of God


(1) The love of God is greater far Than tongue or pen can ever tell;

It goes beyond the highest star, And reaches to the lowest hell;

The guilty pair, bowed down with care, God gave His Son to win;

His erring child He reconciled, And pardoned from his sin.

CHORUS:

O love of God, how rich and pure!

How measureless and strong!

It shall for evermore endure

The saints' and angels' song.

(2) When years of time shall pass away, And earthly thrones and kingdoms fall,

When men, who here refuse to pray, On rocks and hills and mountains call,

God's love so sure, shall still endure, All measureless and strong;

Redeeming grace to Adam's race-The saints' and angels' song.

(3) Could we with ink the ocean fill, And were the skies of parchment made,

Were every stalk on earth a quill, And every man a scribe by trade,

To write the love of God above Would drain the ocean dry.

Nor could the scroll contain the whole, Though stretched from sky to sky.

~The Love of God (2)

The beloved hymn The Love of God had its roots in a long Jewish poem written in the eleventh century in Germany.

The Jewish poem, Hadamut, in the Aramaic language, has ninety couplets. The poem itself is in the form of an acrostic. It was composed, in the year 1096, by Rabbi Mayer, son of Isaac Nehorai, who was a cantor in the city of Worms, Germany.

The Hadamut poem also speaks of a certain miracle. There are three opinions as to the contents of this miracle.

The first opinion is that the miracle was the giving of the Ten Commandments on Mount Sinai. Incidentally, it is for this reason that the poem is still read on the first day of the Feast of Shavuot before the reading of the Ten Commandments.

The second opinion simply states that we really cannot know with certainty, from the references, what the actual miracle was.

The third opinion believes that the miracle took place in the city of Worms, home of the rabbi-poet. It is thought that there was a medieval, German priest who once spoke evil of the Jewish community.

The king called upon the Jews of the city to produce a representative to argue and defend themselves against the priest. If the Jewish spokesman was successful, then the Jewish community would be spared mass genocide. But if the anti-Jewish priest proved successful, then all of the Jewish community of Worms would be put to death.

The story has a happy ending, as the Jewish representative was successful in the defense of their faith, and the community of Worms was spared.

Throughout the poem, the theme of God’s eternal love and concern for His people is evident. One section of this poem, from which the present third stanza of The Love of God was evidently adapted, reads as follows:

Were the sky of parchment made,

A quill each reed, each twig and blade,

Could we with ink the oceans fill,

Were every man a scribe of skill,

The marvelous story, Of God’s great glory

Would still remain untold; For He, most high

The earth and sky Created alone of old.

—Kenneth Osbeck

++++++++++


G
ginnyrose Jun 17, 2010

This song is a very familar one to us old folks. I doubt there is anyone my age (63 Y0) or older that does not know this song, "The Love of God".

Interesting how something so old is now beginning to minister to the younger generation...BTW, there are tons of songs just like that. May I suggest you go the link below and there you will find many songs with rich lyrics. You could also go to thrift stores or antique book stores and find old hymnals.
http://www.hymntime.com/tch/ttl/ttl.htm

ginnyrose

J
jlosinski Jun 17, 2010

Ginny,
I agree, I've just heard this hymn for the first time several weeks back; what depth! I am young, but grew up on the old hymns, one of my favorites is Holy, Holy, Holy- thats hymn number 2 in our hymnal :). Now with that being said, I also enjoyed som expository hip hop from Lampmode records on the way to work this morning :)
Joe

G
Goldminer Jun 17, 2010

I'm not so young, I'm 57, but I was saved 34 years ago in a non-denominational church. We always sang scriptures. But I love this song and did find some wonderful voices singing it on youtube thanks to Lysa.

God bless you all for your input.

sermonindex Aug 8, 2016

I just finished reading Living Water by Brother Yun....all I can say is that I will never be the same again. It is very convicting, truly inspired by the Holy Spirit. Its a MUST read for anyone who is genuinely hungry and thirsty for Jesus and is ready to do whatever He asks. Would love to see a new post discussing it....it's unlike any book you've read written by man. The Heavenly Man is excellent as well. Talk about getting us out of the comfort zone, off the computer, and into the harvest field where we belong.

sermonindex Aug 9, 2016

This is the Love of God sung recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6B_jYtjvME

I just finished reading Living Water by Brother Yun....all I can say is that I will never be the same again. It is very convicting, truly inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Amen. Living Water has convicted and changed me also very powerful and the words are not from a western mindset. Paul Hattaway runs Asia Harvest: http://asiaharvest.org a very down to earth simple mission to help reach unreached peoples. I highly recommend the mission, they run similar to SermonIndex with almost no staff or administration or buildings, etc!

Saints might also want to read the Principles book that has quotes and excerpts from other house church leaders in China: https://gfel.org/principlesbook-3/

sermonindex Aug 10, 2016

Thank you so much brother Greg. I read the customer reviews for "Principles for the Gathering of Believers Under the Headship of Jesus Christ" at Amazon. Wow...exactly what I'm looking for.
Here are the reviews if anyone would like to read them...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/cr/1489557318/ref=mw_dp_cr

Getting this book tomorrow. God bless you

This discussion is locked.

Archived
1 of 14 posts