Keith wrote ...Quote;"The whole problem can't be blamed entirely on taxes, though, the church still has more than enough wealth to obey these commands, and we need to repent of not doing so".If i'm not mistaken the bulk of the Church's financial intake is tax exempt as a non profit organization, although many are tempting the government to rescind such exemption by our speaking out politically in a partisan manner ... But i agree that there's more than enough money if we'd stop spending it on all the worldly, pretensious crap that we do ... i think our Lord is not pleased with His Church's unwise stewardship of the talents He's given us ... Why the custom made tailored suits of so many mega-star preachers, let alone their extravagant auto's and houses, could certainly be used to a better use towards feeding the poor ... Amos;6 Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of Israel, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they sold the righteous for silver, and the poor for a pair of shoes;7 That pant after the dust of the earth on the head of the poor, and turn aside the way of the meek: and a man and his father will go in unto the same maid, to profane my holy name:8 And they lay themselves down upon clothes laid to pledge by every altar, and they drink the wine of the condemned in the house of their god.God will force His Church to repent of it's greed ...Mloaks wrote;Quote;"Let's face it, for many Christians, it is all about abortion and the Supremes. These Christians would wreck the USA to get Roe overturned, legally or otherwise".Amen to that! ... This is the point i've been trying to get across ... It's not about the men, or the partys, or our personal preferences, but about Christian principals ... The reason why this Christian will vote (if you call this wrecking the USA) for Bush this election is that just on the "IF" Bush will appoint Supreme Court Justices that might overturn Roe vs Wade, i'm all for it, in that if any Christian doesn't think that abortion isn't/hasn't already wrecked the USA by Christ's standards/principals, then i'm praying for you ... i for one concider the unborn as the least of these amongst us, for they certainly seem to be the most expendable, and now to the point of becoming concidered guinea pigs in embyonic stem cell research ... "IF" my vote can act as a resistor to what's written in the Revelation, if it can be just one single grain of saltier salt, or one shiver of light in the increasing darkness, that may stay the Hand of the Almighty to just one second more of grace to the salvation of some unsaved soul, then that's me, that's what i see my duty to be as one saint, and if i'm wrong i'll answer for it before God when my book is opened ... But until that time i'm suited up in the whole armor, with prayer and supplication, operating soley from behind my large shield of faith, and with the Sword of the Word of God cutting to and fro anythying that Christ's principles tells me is evil ... AmenMany may think me extreme and dramatic, but the Word says that the kingdom of God is taken by "aggression" ... The Church of Christ might not understand such methodology, but the hordes of Hell sure do!So many folk crying out to God, "Send us your prophets, send your prophets"! ... Lip service! ... For the prophets of God blare, "Stand up for right! ... Stand up for righteousness! ... Stand up for Christ"! ... Then we're quick to shut em up, ignore, or slay them when they're sent because really we're ALL a bunch of lazy good for nothings, who interpret "those who wait on the Lord", to our own selfish spiritual laziness ... God's about to end our complacency, and cease our "a little folding of the hands'! ... Nothing motivates like fire! ... Both kinds! ... He's warned ... He's waited ... And now He's weeping because He never wants to pour out judgment, but as always, we leave Him no other choice!