Glenn Beck's Ecumenical Push on the Church

Glenn Beck Rally Set Stage for "Christians" to Accept Paganism, and Mormons Say Beck Achieved 200 Year Goal of Getting Evangelicals to Declare That Mormons Are Christians

by Brannon S. Howse

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I tried to warn evangelical leaders about Glenn Beck's rallies but most of them laughed at me. Now Satan is the one laughing at them as "Christians" run head-long into embracing non-Biblical theology and call it "Christian".

Greg West in the Mormon LDS Examiner validates my pre-Beck rally warnings to Evangelical leaders on my radio program, columns, e-mails, and phone conversations. I told them that partnering with Beck in a spiritual enterprise would send the message that Mormons are Christians.

Greg West writes:

As a Mormon, I have to consider an unintended message throughout Beck's work, which has culminated in this event. That message is: "Mormons are Christian believers." Despite nearly two centuries of misrepresentation and religious envy by sectarian Christianity, Beck has achieved the visibility, prominence, and has had the time day after day, week after week, to speak openly and truly about his core beliefs. Those statements of faith have disoriented and confused those who had previously believed the lies about Mormons.

Jim Garlow, a popular and influential pastor who partnered with the Mormon faithful in California to defend traditional marriage was quoted recently in CNN's Belief Blog, saying, "I have interviewed persons who have talked specifically with Glenn about his personal salvation - persons extremely well known in Christianity - and they have affirmed (using language evangelicals understand), 'Glenn is saved...' He understands receiving Christ as Savior."

Hallelujah! The light bulb has been switched on after nearly two centuries! Every single member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believes that a person must be "born again" and receive Jesus Christ as his Savior and Redeemer. Our holy books teach that salvation comes only in and through the atonement of Christ and that there is no other way a person can be saved…Glenn Beck's beliefs are mainstream Mormon beliefs. Joseph Smith, the Church's founder, was a Christian prophet. He was an apostolic witness of the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
http://www.examiner.com/lds-church-in-national/glenn-beck-and-the-restoring-honor-rally

Notice that West admits that what Beck has said on his broadcasts about his faith has "disoriented and confused" people who thought that Mormonism was not consistent with Christianity. However, Beck has now convinced them that Mormonism and Christianity are compatible with the help of America's Christian leaders.

The actor Kirk Cameron is the only one I personally know of that took to heart my pre-Beck rally warnings and reversed himself. Kirk really encouraged me when I needed it by calling to thank me for the column and sharing with me how it helped him understand why he must not take part in Beck's 8-27 event. Kirk even had the courage to come on my national radio program and speak about this issue publically.

The irony is rather thick. Kirk played "Buck Williams" in the Left Behind Movies. Buck was a famous secular journalist who became a believer and then set out to warn Christians not to accept the demonic spirituality of a one-world religion that was unfolding through national and international figures.

I believe what happen over the weekend was a seismic shift within evangelicalism; an historic event that will go unnoticed by most Christian leaders. A few leaders may eventually understand the nature of what happen but it will be weeks if not months before they respond. Many of these leaders waited years to provide the defense against Oprah's pagan spirituality and when they did it was too late for many of the goats within their flock of sheep that had already consumed Oprah's spiritual poison.

Sadly, most Christian leaders and pastors are completely deficient in understanding the ideas and philosophies that have, and continue, to be the force behind the rushing cultural stream. As a result; the members of their own congregation hear no advanced warning of the coming spiritual undertow nor do they acquire the needed Biblical knowledge that keeps them from being children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, (Ephesians 4:14).

The compromise by evangelical leaders and pastors by spiritually uniting with "all faiths" with the theme of "looking to the one god", as described by Beck, has laid the foundation for untold numbers of self-professing Christians to now embrace pluralism and pagan spirituality. Pastors and evangelical leaders literally locked arms with all faiths, including Imams, in a spiritual endeavor despite the clear Biblical warnings of II Corinthians 6:14.

The Mormon Church is now rejoicing over the public relations success that these undiscerning evangelical leaders have handed the Mormon Church by uniting with Glenn Beck in the two events that were promoted as spiritual.

I believe that Beck does not only embrace the pagan spirituality of Mormonism but also Cosmic Humanism. Cosmic Humanism is known by most as the New Age Movement. Cosmic Humanism says that man is god. Mormonism says that man can become god. See the similarities? Before you react listen to what Glenn Beck said on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace on the Fox News Channel. Glenn Beck said that his rally was not political and the reason for his rally was because "there's nothing that we can do that will solve the problems that we have and keep the peace unless we solve it through God, unless we solve it in being our highest self. Be your higher-self."

Beck used the phrase "higher self" three times in the interview with Chris Wallace. No one talks that way unless they know exactly what they are saying. One New Age website says:

There are many great words to describe Who or What your highest identity or Self truly is. Below are just a few: Higher Self, I am Presence, I Am That I Am…Cosmic Consciousness, God, Christ, Holy Spirit And the list goes on…

Notice that "I AM that I AM" is another word for "higher self". Last week on his radio program Beck said, "I Am That I Am is the most powerful phrase in any language as it is the name of god, never use it in vain; use it to create who you want to be. I AM blank."

I AM is a title that is to be reserved for God Himself. In Exodus 3:13 God told Moses that when the people of Israel ask for My name tell them, "I AM WHO I AM." And He said, "Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.'" In John 8:58 we read, "Jesus said to them, 'Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.'"

"I AM" is to be reserved as a title for God yet it is being blasphemed in the pagan practice of what is called "the law of attraction." In the book The Secret, that was promoted by none other than Oprah Winfrey, Rhonda Byrne wrote:

· The law of attraction is the law of creation….You create your life through your thoughts." [p. 15.]

· There isn't a single thing that you cannot do with this knowledge. It doesn't matter who you are or where you are, The Secret can give you whatever you want. [P. xi]

· With this powerful knowledge, you can completely change every circumstance and event in your entire life…" [p. 17]

The fact that people like Beck on the right and Oprah on the left are proclaiming the "I AM" message is a sign that we are living in the last days according to Jesus Himself in Luke 21:7-8:

And they asked Him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass? And he said, "Take heed that yet be not deceived: for many will come in My name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near; go ye not therefore after them."

Former New Ager, now Biblical Christian, Ray Yungen writes:

Notice, "Christ" is italicized in verse 8, meaning that it was not in the original manuscript. The translators of the King James Bible probably thought it awkward that it said "Many shall come saying, I am." Probably for the sake of clarity and to be consistent with Mathew 24, the translators added the word "Christ."

Did you catch that? Jesus was saying that when people say they are god by using the title "I AM" it is a sign that we are living in the end times. We are also told to run away from the people saying "I AM". Sadly, many of our nation's pastor's and Christian leaders did not run from Glenn Beck but ran to join him in a spiritual service and enterprise.

Beck on his radio program last week also declared, "Hell is an eternity of regret not being able to forgive yourself." This is a completely unbiblical statement. Nowhere in the Bible do we see instruction to "forgive yourself" because it is impossible. 2 Corinthians 5:15 says, "He died for all, that those who live should live no longer for themselves, but for Him who died for them and rose again." Verse 17 is what brings me peace since I have repented of my sins and placed by faith and trust in the Jesus of the Bible. "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new."

Grace and forgiveness is provided to those who repent and therefore there is no need to believe the lie that you can "forgive yourself" of your sins.

Glenn Beck has accomplished what neither Oprah Winfrey nor Shirley McClain could. I believe that Beck used his conservative veneer and doublespeak to co-opt leaders of the religious right. Beck and these evangelical leaders have sent the message that it is acceptable for millions of "Christians" to embrace humanistic spirituality and paganism for the purpose of social activism and social change. These pastors should re-read Luke 17:2 where we read; "It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were thrown into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones."

Beck has set the stage for "conservatives" to accept a one-world religion and numerous leaders of the religious right pulled the ropes that raised the curtain on this ecumenical stage. Christian leaders that should have known better nodded in agreement and provided the backdrop as Beck preached his sermon of pluralism and universalism on 8-27 and 8-28.

Perhaps sooner, rather than latter, the world will be in massive economic, political, and spiritual chaos and a leader will step on to the world stage and this anti-Christ will call for the religions of the world to unite and embrace spirituality. He will declare that he is not about politics but about bringing peace, unity, faith, hope, charity, stability, freedom, and prosperity under the common god of all religions. This world leader will perform counterfeit miracles signs and wonders and those who reject Biblical truth will follow him [2 Thessalonians 2:9-12] and embrace his plan for restoring honor.

If I had told you five years ago that a "conservative" radio and TV personality would have millions of viewers, would talk about the spiritual battle being waged in America, would be a self-confessed member of a cult, would quote New Age phrases, would call for Christians and conservatives to look to the "one god", would seek to unite all faiths and would convince dozens of evangelical pastors and leaders to support him in a spiritual service-you would say I was writing fiction and that this would never happen.

Do you now understand the magnitude of the spiritual shift that occurred this past weekend? The millions that see nothing wrong with the messages of Beck's 8-27 and 8-28 rallies reveal that the religious left and the religious right will be easily merged together in the coming one world religion under the coming one-world spiritual leader as prophesied in Revelation 17:8.

Ephesians 5:11 commands all Christians to "have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them." That is exactly what we have done and will continue to do in spite of e-mails and voice messages that are filled with cursing and insults. Our response must simply be, "Have I become your enemy because I tell you the truth?" [Galatians 4:16]

"Ephesians 5:11 commands all Christians to "have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them." That is exactly what we have done and will continue to do in spite of e-mails and voice messages that are filled with cursing and insults. Our response must simply be, "Have I become your enemy because I tell you the truth?" [Galatians 4:16]

Amen..........brother Frank

OK, but in fairness (and all meekness and love), let's not also confuse "love" or "spirituality" with compromise either. The Lord is pretty clear what his thoughts on compromise, "mixture", fellowshipping with darkness, making covenants with those who worship other gods, etc. Story of Agag mean anything to anyone spiritually in the new covenant? I went through my years of "striking the rock in anger". Grace saving me in my own failures after that opened my eyes to the breath and scope of His love, grace, & mercy. But, I always knew that false is false and shouldn't be allowed to use His name in vain. Isn't the "abomination which causes desolation, spoken of by the prophet Daniel" when that which isn't from God (from Satan) "stands in the holy place claiming to be God"? I think Art Katz said it best once when he said that "Love without truth is really just sentimentality. Truth without love is just really brutality."

Brother Jimmy,
Dude, I think you may not want to see it, but it is there nonetheless. He called together 200 people "of different cloths" to stand arm in arm and "seek the one common god" together. That included Catholic priests, Muslim Imams, etc. His focus has shifted tremendously & if you didn't feel "attached" to your thoughts from years of watching/listening to him, you would have no trouble seeing it. You can't miss it if you watch the nature of his event and his own thoughts about it. I have watched his show pretty "religiously" for over a year. What I sense in my spirit, and is confirmed when recent actions are stood up to scripture, is that the enemy is capitalizing on his position and it will be used against the bride. How could he even prevent it? He is lost in a satanic cult called Mormonism. Is his research staff as good a "crack news research staff" out there? I think so. That's why I watched before. Something changed recently. The same change I sensed the day George Bush said (after 9/11) that we all "worship the same god" (muslims and christians). This deception is more sinister and deceptive than anything Beck calls out on his show about "the left". They are all lost. That is why my heart will be set like a flint towards the Kingdom of Heaven, not those of this world, & I will set my face like a flint to "have nothing to do with their deeds of darkness, but rather expose them." Not to grandstand, but to be a watchman as God has called me to.

While I think "true discerning followers" of Jesus will not fall for ecumenicallism, the warning is not without reason. Just go to GlennBeck.com/insiderextreme and watch the entire thing for yourself. I watched his Sunday interview with Chris Wallace on Fox as well as his show over the last couple of days. I am not telling you what I heard someone is saying he said, but what he said out of his own mouth. I wouldn't scrutinize his message purely on hearsay. That's gossip. Everyone here is acting like they know exactly what he said and didn't say. Well, did you watch the actual event? Did you watch Beck's interview on Sunday? Did you watch Beck's show Monday & Tuesday? I did all of the above. I have listened to the man's words myself. What is the point in getting 200 "men of the cloth" to unite "arm in arm" (literally)in "faith" and in "prayer" to god when they are from Catholicism, Mormonism, Islam, & varying denominational sects of Christianity? C'mon, I'm not using a "hair trigger" here, but it doesn't take the gift of discernment (but it does help) to see that this is dangerous. When he was purely political, that was one thing (good or bad debatable on seperate grounds), but this "divine destiny" of "locking arms" with cults and false religions to "seek god together" is poisonous. In love, we must be able to call a spade a spade. Something is deceptively wrong here. Why don't you all then go to your local Mosque, Mormon temple, and/or Catholic Cathedral to stand in the pulpit with priests, Imams, & the like to pray together for America? I say this is meekness and with a broken heart - have we lost all discernment in this country? God help us and expose this evil for what it is - a call to covenant with the enemy. Lord forgive me of my shortcomings in communicating this, & let us see clearly as you see things by your Spirit. Halelujah, praise be to our Lord!!!

This whole thing with Glenn Beck (who many of you know I really like) is very very deceptive and dangerous, and true believers need to stay far away from it.

Krispy

Jeff writes.........

"I am not telling you what I heard someone is saying he said, but what he said out of his own mouth. I wouldn't scrutinize his message purely on hearsay. That's gossip."

And Krispy writes.......

"This whole thing with Glenn Beck (who many of you know I really like) is very very deceptive and dangerous, and true believers need to stay far away from it."

Amen. It was announced on his show on Monday that the rally was the beginning of the third great awakening. Like Jeff said, these are his words, not what people " think,' he means, or strange theories, simply his words. As Krispy says.........beware ............Frank

Much of what he shows people in terms of the treasury, economics, socialist ties of govt. officials, etc. is right on. BUT, what he is spending much of his time, energy, effort, "rally" on now, he himself is touting as "spiritual, not political". AS for the attempt to analogize the story of the good samaritan with allowing a false teacher from a false religion unite on false terms without warning the Body - I probably shouldn't say much, lest it come out wrong. The story of the good Samaritan was not the story of the "good false prophet/teacher". That was such a "shoe-string" argumnet, I truly hope you don't see that as an equivalent. Before I was born again, I was a bit of a debate champion, a minor in philosophy & logic, so I don't want my flesh to get in the way of love and speaking in humility. No offense at all intended, but that's not a good parallel analogy or basis for your argument at all. Why were Paul, Jesus, Peter, Jude, etc. so strong in their speach against false teaching/teachers? The story of the good samaritan didn't end with the samaritan teaching the victim false teaching and him lapping it up like water because of a kind act. It's not the story of the "good Baal worshipper" who then unites arm in arm and prays together for "god" (pick a god, any god) to save their country. I think we muddy the waters sometimes because we are so intent on proving a point. I have done it more than a time or two & pray God keeps me from it even now. To call that a "stretch" is, in all love and concern, the understatement of the day. Can anyone call a spade a spade anymore in the church in love and humility without being "an angry watchman" or a "fearful, spineless compromiser"? I am going to likely bow out now for good, but just note it in your heart/mind that something is in the works on a grand scale in the spiritual realm here, and we will see a major impact from this in the days ahead. Remember these things, pray about them, and seek the mind of THE LORD GOD of heaven and earth, His Holy Spirit, & the King of Kings on such things. My heart is clear. God Bless you all!!!
pride, but without compromise?

" I think we muddy the waters sometimes because we are so intent on proving a point. I have done it more than a time or two & pray God keeps me from it even now. To call that a "stretch" is, in all love and concern, the understatement of the day."

Amen brother. Thanks for sharing Jeff........brother Frank

President Bush claimed to be a follower of Jesus Christ -- and I feel no more qualified to render a judgment on the validity of that claim than I feel qualified to render a judgment on any other public figure. After all, there are members here on SermonIndex who will just as quickly dismiss ministers (*like Charles Finney, etc...) based upon what they think is a fruitful examination of the "big picture." Still, I can't help but wonder if those things are exactly what we are called to do as believers -- whether we are "watchmen," "prophets" of just simple lovers of Jesus. I think that it is far more beneficial to point out the problem itself than the heart of the man.

Hello, Chris.

I haven't been around SI for a while, but from this post I see you haven't changed much as far as your thinking and attitude go.

First, you may not feel qualified to pass judgment on the man, but this is [i]your[/i] problem. If you yourself don't see, please don't pass judgment on people who have seen.

The Lord Jesus taught that "by their fruit you shall know them." If the fruit is bad, consistently, then the tree is bad, surely. By playing the "Do not judge" card, you are actually judging the Lord Himself, because He commanded "judge righteous judgment" (John 7:24). If you are a "lover of Jesus", as you have claimed, you would keep His commandments. Hiding behind things like "you don't know the heart of the man" won't do, because it is [i]the fruit[/i] that you are called to judge, not the heart. These fruit, however, (in this case a man's public confession) do proceed from his heart and help the man of understanding discern who he is dealing with (whether this is Glenn Beck or George W. Bush).

I guess that this is what I feel about Glenn Beck. I certainly don't agree with the cult of Mormonism. It is a false gospel born in Hell itself. However, this doesn't mean that all Mormons are wrong in EVERY issue. ... There are some things that are just "true" -- regardless of who says it. I applaud anyone -- whether believer or unbeliever --

Here the question is not whether there isn't some truth in Mormonism or in man, but about believers in Christ being [u]yoked together with idolaters[/u] in this movement. What does light have to do with darkness? It is one thing to accept the advice of an unbeliever if it is according to the Truth, but a whole another thing to join arms with him in an ungodly agenda. There is something quite odd and disturbing in the fact that in word you claim that "Religious ecumenicism is wrong"; yet, you are unable to notice the apparent move toward ecumenicism in these men's actions.

P.S. I myself have watched some quite reasonable political arguments Mr. Beck has made on television and applauded the man on them (I didn't know that he was a Mormon). It is rare to see a clear thinking and reasonable and truth-telling individual on TV these days. What disturbed me though was that would speak like this on FOX, which is owned by a member of the church of one-world religion advocate, Rick Warren. So I asked myself, "Why would they allow him to speak this way, if this weren't consistent with their agenda?"

It is clear from what jeffmar has posted, I had sensed correctly that there was something going on. And as I see it, the goal is the leading astray of the elect (if it were possible), by alluring them with some just and reasonable anti-socialist arguments into the snare of the ecumenical agenda. Would Christians join arms with people like Glenn Beck (remember, Satan disguises himself as an angel of light) in order to get a temporary "cut on lawlessness" in America, or would they consent for nothing less than the coming Kingdom of Heaven?

An interesting can of worms: Glenn Beck advocates tithing....

Wierd...Jesus doesn't advocate tithing.

I'm just saying. :)

(however, that's for another discussion)

I think Glen Beck is totally being used by God. It is very evident that he is by the comments on this thread and by seeing how Christians as a whole respond to him. He is certainly being used to see if Christians have enough discernment and love the word of God enough to see through what Beck is promoting. He is being used to see if Christians will through their hat in the ring with an ecumenical uniter under some ambiguous God (or whatever Jesus you want to believe in) to work together to "reclaim" our country.

I really see it as a great diversion and materful plan (by the devil) to derail Christians from their focus on God's Kingdom and to shift their focus to one where politics is the answer. Beck may be calling this country back to God (letting you define God yourself) but the ultimate goal is to inspire people to bring about politcal change.

May the Lord bring Beck to true saving faith in Jesus Christ where he might be used as a vessel of honor to bring true glory to God.