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Sweden Considers Cashless Society

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hmmhmm Sep 21, 2010

By Richard Giedroyc, World Coin News
September 13, 2010

Sweden may be a member of the European Union, but to date it has opted not to join the EU’s currency union. If some people in Sweden have their way it may never be necessary to join the currency union, since they would rather see all coins and bank notes replaced with debit and credit cards.

The subject has been simmering for some time, but was brought to the forefront July 17 through a British Broadcasting Corporation report. In this report it is noted there are high profile proponents of a cashless but plastic and electronic transaction driven society that include former Abba band member Bjorn Eulvaeus, several labor unions, and the Swedish Work Environment Authority.

Marie Jarvas, a bank employee and union member who has been robbed twice, is quoted in the BBC report as saying, “If we can reduce the amount of cash in the banks and in society in general, robberies will also be reduced. … If in the long term we abandon cash completely, there will be no robberies because there’s no point in robbing a bank if there’s no cash there to steal.”

Former rocker Eulvaeus is obviously not a coin collector. He recently wrote on his blog that “There are no direct practical reasons, as far as I can see, to have coins and bank notes,” adding, “There are obvious advantages in getting rid of them. Sweden should be able to be the first country in the world to do so.”

I guess Eulvaeus is unfamiliar with electronic warfare, through which all means of electronic transactions could be jammed and possibly wiped out entirely.

Eulvaeus goes further, stating it is patronizing to assume the elderly and others would have difficulty maneuvering through a cashless society. “There are, of course, those who need help, but if as a result they run less of a risk of being robbed then perhaps it would be worth the inconvenience.”

There is little argument that electronic means of payments far outstrip cash transactions not only in Sweden, but in much of the industrialized world today. In Sweden the value of card rather than coin and bank note transactions has increased 500 percent in the past 10 years, while the use of card payment transactions has increased by 800 percent.

London (England) Business School Economics Professor Andrew Scott was quoted by the BBC as saying, “The technology exists for a cashless society. … Its key advantage, in an electronic age, is that it is anonymous and tells you nothing about where it’s been.”

New Welfare Foundation spokesman Par Strom, based in Stockholm, was quick to disagree. Strom said, “If it’s impossible to pay cash when you buy stuff, it’s also impossible not to leave electronic footprints behind you, and the electronic footprints from what you buy put together can tell the entire story about your life. This can be very sensitive information. Most people don’t want this total surveillance society.”

Coin collectors, of course, would side with Strom for other reasons. So would most economists who are familiar with runaway inflation that can be caused by the circulation of too much fiat currency not backed by anything other than the trust in the government and the domestic economy. Unregulated, these electronic transactions could operate the same way.

Regardless of the arguments defending coins and bank notes, it would appear the decision to move towards a cashless society in Sweden may be a done deal, according to the way the BBC account presents the position of Swedish Work Environment Authority spokesman Bernt Nilsson: “Nilsson says it will be several years, at least, before Sweden can finally rid itself of cash.”

In fact, although Sveriges Riksbank or Swedish Central Bank Deputy Governor Lars Nyberg has indicated there is a higher cost to society to use cash rather than plastic and electronic means for transactions the central bank has taken no official position on the debate.

Since, according to the Swedish central bank website, Sweden is still marketing Proof and Mint sets as well as commemorative coins it doesn’t appear the Swedish government is ready yet to discontinue this lucrative money making product.

http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=13953

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Lysa Sep 21, 2010

Yes, it's headed that way for us too (USA). If you are on "government assistance" (welfare), you get a debit card and the gov't deposits your money into it once a month. They started that back in 2002 (or before - depending on your area).

When they get all the people on government assistance on a cashless program, it's just a matter of time before everyone is put on it.

And really, they don't like cash because they can't follow you with cash!!

God bless,
Lisa

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TaylorOtwell Sep 21, 2010

So what's the big deal about a cashless society (aside from privacy concerns)? Is there some kind of prophecy about it or something?

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Josef83 Sep 21, 2010

really? I am Swedish, and have never heard such thing.

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Lysa Sep 21, 2010

“Is there a prophecy about it?” Taylor, as well as you know your Bible and you are asking that question?? What’s up with that?

Another thing all the big amusement parks are doing is biometric scanning which is all well and good for wanting to know if wanted felons are entering the park or child predators; but where does it stop, will we have to be scanned at the grocery store, at the bank or at to get gas? Where’s it all heading? I don’t know.

For some who may not know, prophecy groups have told us that Revelation 14.9 refers to the antichrist that is coming but really, who knows what God had in mind when he wrote that? ‘And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a great voice, If any man worshippeth the beast and his image, AND receiveth a mark on his forehead, or upon his hand...(asv)’

God bless us all who don't know it all!!!
Lisa

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jlosinski Sep 21, 2010

The same could have been said about paper money when they switched from coins and gold. Or from livestock to coins. It seems that people have built a systematic theology on "end times prophesy", particularly with the recent advent of technological advances. This will not change the Great Commission, or God's redemptive plan.

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TaylorOtwell Sep 21, 2010

Lysa,

In all honesty I'm not aware of such a prophecy. Which verse is it?

-- Edit --

I'm wondering if you're referring to the mark of the beast and not being able to buy and sell without it. I guess I wasn't viewing that verse as necessarily implying a cashless society.

Thanks!
Taylor

sermonindex Sep 21, 2010


We've been in a cashless society for quite sometime. I use my debit card for most of my purchases and online a credit card. This is really no big news. I prefer the plastic over the cash and coins, looking forward to having them completely done away with as the cashless society is something that is far more superior than that old regime.

sermonindex Sep 21, 2010

So what's the big deal about a cashless society (aside from privacy concerns)? Is there some kind of prophecy about it or something?

Good question Taylor.

We can fit anything we want into whatever scripture we pull out of the bible and attach itself to that and say, "there, this is prophetic". Sadly enough it's spoken by our well loved preachers and we get hooked on whatever they feed us and we never look to God to find out if it's truth or not. Ignorantly we have all done it.

sermonindex Sep 21, 2010

I think if you were a preterist, the notion of a cashless society would raise no eye-brows. If you were a pre-tribber then again, so what, your not gonna be here. Now, if you are a mid or a post, then you know that the first step to the mark is coming by going cashless :) ........brother Frank

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Miccah Sep 21, 2010

How is this known appolus?

sermonindex Sep 21, 2010

Surmized in certain circles Miccah, I take back the word " known." .........brother Frank

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Miccah Sep 21, 2010

Didn't know if I was missing something. Blessings!

sermonindex Sep 21, 2010

I think if you were a preterist

I hate labels, but thankfully I am not, just see the bible differently than the majority. Mind you I believed like the majority about the mark etc..but...since Jesus was radical in His beliefs, I think we should take a page out of His book and travel outside the box (outside the camp). One must never fall into the trap that when God is using a man or a woman of God in preaching and saving souls that they have a complete understanding of the word of God. That simply is not true. They have a gift to preach and to persuade sinners into the kingdom of God but in all matters of scripture they may have the understanding as the majority, and at the same time be very ignorant of it. Many of us have fallen headlong into this type of mindset and very few have actually stood up to question it. However, by doing so, they are never the same and will appear to be out of step with Christian society, even when they withhold the truth.

We should be very careful how we hear, and that includes me.

sermonindex Sep 22, 2010

HI Snuf, as you can tell, I personally do not care what a man or woman believes about the end times. As has been said before, those who know Christ are my brothers and sisters and I love them for their passion for Jesus, not their knowledge of theology. Having said that, I do believe that how one views the end times definately colors how they see the world and how they live their lives in this present day. Take dying for instance, most, if they were told that they had a month to live, would live that month very differently than they would have if all things were " normal." There is the " fierce urgency of now," about them and the passion level is greatly increased. If i see a sunami approaching, I would run to the beach and warn everyone. If I saw a house on fire I would bang on the doors and try to awaken those inside. So, I guess it comes down to how we " see," things. Is there a direct correlation to how we see things and our level of passion, yes I believe that there is. Noah knew that the flood was coming. In the last day we will be living in a time such as Noah. There is no flood of water coming, but there is a flood of persecution coming upon the church, and then Christ returns.................brother Frank

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