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mguldner Oct 15, 2010

*It is the intention of this thread to gather information rather than start a debate of this topic it has been noted, if the Moderators feel it has drifted from informative and edifying then please feel free to shut it down (you don't really need my permission or anything but just thought I would add this to try and keep debate at a minimum) I note this so people understand the intention of the thread. :)*

I was wonder if anyone had information on the Free Masons, also is it biblical to be a Mason? If not where would scripture be found to help someone see the reasoning? Please know that I know a great deal about the Free Masons already am just curious if its biblical to join them or not because I know many Christians that are free masons.

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Areadymind Oct 15, 2010

If you want to know about the Mason's look up the writings of Manley P. Hall and Albert Pike. However, be prepared to be really disturbed if you do.

Adullam Films also does some apologetics in this area.

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knitefall Oct 15, 2010

a couple of real simple items to pass along w/o time to develop:

1 it is works based Salvation. I've witnessed to several masons using this as most are in the first 3 levels and no not go on much farther.

2 Jesus said 'shout from the roof tops what I have told you' and what do the masons say? They say to not share the secrets of the 'craft' or you'll be cut from ear to ear.

3 you're deliberately kept deceived. The tests that a mason will take to determine if there is to be advancement in level, are deliberately deceiving. For example, one test might be to break the Cross in a dark room blindfolded. If you do not they say, "you have done well, you may leave." If you do break the Cross, they say, "you have done well, you may leave." What's the difference!!!? The strange spirit allowed to operate through you, giving you the right answers in order to continue in level.

those are just a small very few. Sure, there is allurement and attraction for power but it's not worth it. Cannot Jesus sustain us in all things Himself? We don't need secret clubs folk-

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AbideinHim Oct 15, 2010


Most people that get into free masonry are not aware of it's Satanic roots, and only when you get up into the higher degrees do you realize that you are worshipping another god. It is utterly satanic, and you will never hear the blood of Jesus mentioned in a mason ceremony. Masons meet in Masonic temples and these temples are places of Baal worship.

Mike


Unearthing the Mysteries of Free Masonry - Ron Cambell


A massive grey fortress loomed before me. I paused to pray before ascending its broad steps, which rose in sets of three, five, seven and nine. I passed between two huge sphinx-like granite lions with women’s heads, poised like sentinels. Their cold, steely eyes seemed to mask ancient mysteries. between two huge Sphinxlike granite lions with women’s heads, poised like sentinels. Their cold, steely eyes seemed to mask ancient mysteries.

Towering above these guardians were 33 mammoth stone pillars, each 33 feet tall. These sacred pillars, partially concealing an elaborate image of an Egyptian sun-god, created a peristyle enclosing a secluded temple room within.

Once inside the great bronze doors I entered a central court, bordered by eight huge granite columns. Situated at each column was a candelabra in the form of the god Hermes–”bringer of light”–an ancient Greek deity.

The lofty ceiling was marked with designs borrowed from Egyptian tombs. Adorning the chairs throughout the court were double-headed eagles inspired by designs on the thrones of the great Temple of Dionysus.

Statues of Isis and Nephthys, the sister-wife and sister of the Egyptian sun-god Osiris, stood silently nearby. I entered another door, and directly before me was an altar of black and gold marble, framed by more massive columns and walls decorated with bronze serpents.

My heart raced as I stood there, envisioning the secret ceremonies and blood oaths that are performed in this room regularly. I shuddered as I realised how many unsuspecting men have been trapped in a deadly web of deception after visiting this eerie place.

Unfortunately, this temple scene was not taken from a photograph from the pages of Travel and Leisure. Nor was I visiting some obscure archaeological site in the Middle East. The temple is very much in use today. It is located on 16th Street in Washington, D.C., just blocks from the White House.

It is the House of the Temple, the headquarters of the Supreme Council of Scottish Rite Freemasonry. It is a place full of secrets.

A Satanic Conspiracy?

What goes on behind the closed doors of the more than 13,000 Masonic temples in the United States? Most Americans assume these buildings represent a harmless fraternal organisation that encourages men to help local communities. But is there more to the hidden rituals of Freemasonry than meets the eye?

Most of us certainly don’t understand Freemasonry’s esoteric tradition, which is characterised by strange symbols such as the coffin, the all-seeing eye, the pyramid, and the compass and square. These mysteries are revealed only to those who are initiated into the Masonic lodge. Its members are sworn to silence about their meaning.

Yet the secrets of Freemasonry really are not hidden at all. They are in plain view everywhere, especially in capital cities of Europe, Latin America and the United States. Masonic symbols can be found in the designs of our national monuments and public buildings, in the layout of city streets and squares, and on our currency.

It is almost as if our nation is marked by some invisible hand–as if some unseen force is attempting to claim it as its own. I can’t help but wonder if Freemasonry–which is so full of pagan symbolism–is at least part of a satanic plot. If so, it is a conspiracy I believe we can expose and conquer through prayer.

Six years ago, after asking God to show me what was blocking a full release of spiritual revival in this country, I began to study Freemasonry. I visited Masonic libraries and lodges around the world and interviewed Masonic leaders and former lodge members.

It wasn’t long before I became convinced that Freemasonry represents a powerful and sinister force in the spiritual realm. I believe we must, of course, love people who are associated with Masonic lodges, but we cannot be ignorant about the demonic power associated with any kind of idol worship. We must, through prayer, wage spiritual warfare against it until we see its unholy influences defeated.

Beneath Freemasonry’s deceptive veil, there is more than just happy Shriners who stage parades and raise money for children’s hospitals. The mysteries taught in Masonic lodges today are rooted in the pagan mystery religions of ancient Egypt, Greece and Mesopotamia. They stem from a bizarre spirituality involving fertility cults and sun-god worship–forms of idolatry that have surfaced in every culture on earth and that are specifically condemned in the Bible.

Some Christians will just laugh at my suggestion that Freemasonry is any kind of threat to us today. They will call me a loony conspiracy theorist. After all, what’s the harm in putting up a few weird statues in a downtown park? Who cares if the largest monument in our nation’s capital–an obelisk–is an ancient Egyptian fertility symbol?

What does it matter if the U.S. Capitol in Washington was dedicated to a pagan god in a Masonic ceremony? Does any of this affect our lives today?

Idol Worship in the 20th Century

Freemasonry has long been a controversial subject among Christians. Preachers during the First and Second Great Awakenings in this country condemned the evils of “secret societies,” and evangelists such as Charles Finney were openly attacked for their stand against Freemasonry. Yet even today many who profess to follow Christ hold membership in the lodge because they fail to see that Masonic teaching involves the worship of false gods.

Denominations including the Assemblies of God and the Presbyterian Church in America have gone on record stating that membership in the Masonic lodge is incompatible with Christian faith. Yet other groups, including the Southern Baptist Convention, have refused to criticize it. I believe we as Christians have been blind to the invisible spiritual influence Freemasonry has wielded over our nation since its founding.

For those who doubt that Freemasonry is the equivalent of pagan idolatry, consider the facts:

Men who join the Masonic lodge progress through “degrees of initiation” in a quest for spiritual light until they reach the highest level, the 33rd degree. Early in the process they view a drama depicting the symbolic death, burial and resurrection of a hero-god, Hiram Abif.


Masonic scholar Albert Mackey, in his Manual of the Lodge, taught that the legend of Hiram Abif was borrowed from the ancient mysteries of early Egypt, Mesopotamia and Greece. Hiram represents the gods Osiris, Baal and Bacchus.

The compass and square, an emblem often seen in Masonic art and engraving, represents ancient pagan solar deities. Men initiated into Freemasonry’s 32nd degree are not told that the symbol depicts Osiris the sun-god and Isis, the “goddess of a thousand names.”


Albert Pike, a grand commander of Scottish Rite Freemasonry in the late 1800s, taught that the square and compass–along with the Bible–were “the great lights of Freemasonry.” Though seeming to embrace Christianity by including the Bible in Masonic rituals, Pike actually was mixing true faith with a belief in pagan deities. This is perhaps the greatest and most subtle danger of Masonic teaching: It blends just enough truth with its deception to make it appealing to the naive.

As the sun temples of the ancient Middle East were usually built on an east-west axis, so are Masonic temples. Many Masons are deceptively taught that their roots are traceable to Solomon’s Temple. But Masonic temples are actually the reverse: Their altars face east, and Masons bow to the east when taking their secret blood oaths.


Also, Freemasons are taught that they are like stones cemented into a mystical temple that the Masonic god, known as the “Great Architect of the Universe,” is building. For this reason those who request a Masonic funeral are buried lying east to west, wearing a Masonic apron.

Lodge officers, known as the worshipful master and the senior and junior wardens, are seated in stations in the east, south and west during official ceremonies. This is to represent the sun at its rising, its meridian and its setting. A symbol of the sun always appears over the throne of the worshipful master in the east.

Candidates who want to join the Masonic lodge participate in what is known as the “rite of circumambulation,” or the “symbolic journey in search of light.” In this odd ceremony, the initiate is taken by the right arm and led clockwise around the room. Masonic literature explains that this rite is based on the doctrine of Sabaism, or sun worship.


For more than 200 years, men in this country (as well as women who belong to the organisation known as Eastern Star) have been participating in these strange Masonic ceremonies. They have invoked the names of pagan gods and erected buildings and monuments that glorify these deities.

And–sadly–many gullible Christians have participated in Masonic rituals and then spread the spiritual influences of the lodge into God’s house.

By the Devil’s Design

Since the beginning of American history, Masons have been quietly weaving their bizarre pagan beliefs into the fabric of our country. Nowhere is this more obvious than in our nation’s capital, where Masonic temples, memorials and symbols can be found everywhere–even in the design of the city’s streets.

But why did Masons feel so compelled to leave their indelible mark on the capital of the United States? I doubt the average Mason is even aware of the destructive power of the paganism he is propagating. But I believe the evil forces now operating behind Masonic religion have sought for centuries to control the power centres of the world in a desperate attempt to oppose God’s authority.

While researching the history of our nation’s capital, I discovered a popular Masonic book by Joseph Fort Newton, The Builders. I found this intriguing statement about the ancient Egyptian King Akhnaten of the 18th dynasty: “It is recorded that when Akhnaten founded his new city, four boundary stones were accurately placed so that it might be exactly square, and thus endure forever.”

I then sifted through some dusty books on ancient Egypt and discovered that Akhnaten placed boundary stones around his city; then he invoked deity and dedicated the territory to the sun-god Aten. Later I learned that Washington, D.C., was designed in a similar manner.

The Residence Act of July 16, 1790, authorised the president to appoint three commissioners who were to survey the land and mark out the borders of the district. It was to be exactly 10 miles square.

George Washington–who was a practicing Mason–chose the location, and then he commissioned another Mason, Pierre Charles L’Enfant, to design the new capital city. Thus, quite literally, Freemasonry was actively associated with the new federal district from the day its boundaries were first formally proclaimed.

Then, in April 1791, members of local Masonic lodges gathered at Jones Point in Alexandria, Virginia, to lay the cornerstone of the federal district according to Masonic ritual–which included consecrating it with corn, wine and oil.

Other stones were later placed at one-mile intervals along the boundaries of the district. Most of these stones remain today, including the four original cornerstones at the north, south, east and west.

Masons in the District of Columbia laid the cornerstones of the federal district in 1791, of the first president’s house in 1792 and of the U.S. Capitol in 1793. Since then, dedication and rededication ceremonies of the public, institutional, and religious buildings and monuments in the district number in the hundreds.

The Capitol now boasts at least four dedicated stones. Typically when these stones are laid, Masons meet in private and conduct their routine ceremonies. Then they proceed to the stone of dedication, often circumambulating it.

The grand chaplain then invokes the Masonic god, the Great Architect of the Universe, after which the grand secretary deposits Masonic memorabilia into the stone. Immediately following, the grand master and other lodge officers descend from their chairs and “test” the stone with the plumb, level and square.

The stone is then lowered into its token position–the northeast corner of the building–in three symbolic movements representative of the sun in its course. The grand master then spreads the “Cement of the Mystic Tie,” and the ceremonies end with a deposit of corn, wine and oil.

Just a harmless liturgy? Who was invoked at the opening of the lodge ceremony, and to what deity was Washington, D.C., dedicated? Is it possible that through Masonic rituals, our nation’s government has been symbolically offered to the kingdom of darkness?

We should realise that this deity is not the true God of the Old Testament–the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It is not Jesus Christ of the New Testament. So who or what is it?

This god of Masonry is a god everyone but a discerning Christian can be comfortable with. Albert Pike taught that Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus and the followers of Confucius and Zoroaster “can assemble as brethren and unite in prayer to the one god who is above all the Baalim” when they come to the Masonic lodge.

Other Masonic writers agree with Pike, including Manley P. Hall, who wrote that a Mason’s religion “must be universal: Christ, Buddha or Mohammed, the name means little, for he recognises only the light and not the bearer.”

Christians in the 1800s recognised that the god of Freemasonry was not the one and true God of the Bible, yet Masons were allowed to set up monuments to false gods in our nation’s capital. Today, I believe we must repent for the sins of our fathers, who built these idolatrous “high places” (see Jer. 19:5). They stand in direct contradiction to God’s strict commands against worshiping the sun, Baal and the gods of Egypt (see Ezek. 8:16, 20:7; Jer. 11:12-13, 43:13).

What can we do? We must remember that our battle is not “against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places” (Eph. 6:12, NKJV).

I know that as we repent for our idolatry, the Lord will cleanse the land and lift the horrible curse that falls on all those who serve pagan gods. And as these dark powers lose their control over our churches, our government and our economy, the gospel will be spread more freely and with greater results. *

Ron Campbellis the director of the Jeremiah Project, a prayer ministry based in Colorado Springs, Colorado. For the past several months he has been living in Washington, D.C., organizing prayer for the city.


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twayneb Oct 15, 2010

Joseph Smith was a freemason, and much of the temple ceremonies performed by the Mormons are copied from freemasonry.

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ginnyrose Oct 15, 2010

A story:

This summer we had a couple come to our store. They had a lot of time and were in a visiting mood.

In the course of the conversation, the wife informed me of her husband's health problems. Two years ago he had an heart attack and a stroke that left him clinically dead, which also provided him with an out-of-the body experience.

He shared with us how he saw large grassy field with a forest on the horizon. The the right was a large gate towards which he walked. Upon his arrival he saw now-deceased relatives. They beckoned him to come on in but he said he will later - he has to return [to earth] and do some things.

He turned to leave and then he woke up. He also said how he sensed that hell was not all that far away although he did not see it, just sensed it.

I asked a few questions:
1. Did you see Jesus? "No."
2. Did you see any angels? "no."
3. Did you see heaven? "No."

Oh. I was stunned, speechless - this was unlike any other vision I have heard.

He went on to tell us how his pastor felt his vision was authentic. Also according to his wife his recovery was miraculous: the docs had said if he survived he would be confined to a bed in a nursing home in a vegetative state. He was neither. The wife credits God for his healing - she gives him all the credit and praise for it. Both were humbled by the experience.

Then.

Then he pointed out his ring on his finger.

"See this ring?"

"Yes..?"

"This is a Mason ring. I am a ....* degree Mason. This means we do a lot of good things. Now I will be working to a lot of good things so I can get back to that wonderful place."

"But, sir! The only way a person can get to heaven is through the blood of Jesus!"

"I know." But he was intent on doing good so he can get to that wonderful place.

End of story.

What do you think?

ginnyrose

* I forget the number he said, but I recognized it as a very high one.

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Renoncer Oct 15, 2010

Ginnyrose,
It is not surprising that Satan's servants would masquerade as servants of righteousness, for he himself masquerades as an angel of light. The truth is that they are turning to a different gospel, which is really no gospel at all. This is their fruit: a false gospel. Their end will be what their actions deserve. And anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work. For this reason, let us be very careful how we live, not as unwise, but as wise, because the days are evil.

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Renoncer Oct 15, 2010

The information AbideinHim has provided is well enough to make a definite statement about Freemasonry: Stay away from it!

1) They commit every possible act of idolatry. There are just too many passages in Scripture that condemn idolatry in any and every form. If you want some New Testament passages, you can look at 1Corinthians 10:14 which says to flee from it (a step above simply refraining from it), or Galatians 5:19-21 which makes it clear that those who live in such will certainly not inherit the kingdom of God. But, if you want to have a very graphic picture as to how God feels about idolatry, read Ezekiel 16 and Ezekiel 23. Idolatry is spiritual prostitution.

2) They engage in secret and occult practices. Again, there are many passages that deal with this issue in Scripture. If you want some New Testament passages, you can look at that same passage in Galatians 5:19-21 which makes it clear that those who live in this will not inherit the kingdom of God. Ephesians 5:8-12 makes it clear that we should not participate in these fruitless deeds of darkness, because God is light, not darkness (take note of 1John 1:5-6). Also, beware of your sinful nature which will use your “curiosity” or “vigilante attitude” to draw you into their teachings. Revelation 2:24 commends those who have not learned Satan’s so-called deep secrets. If anyone thinks they will become wise by learning these secrets, they forget what true wisdom is, and they also forget who is the Giver of wisdom.

These passages are very clear concerning the nature of such things, and the destiny of those who engage in such. If someone claims to be a Christian but also practices Freemasonry, we would have reason to doubt the genuineness of that person’s salvation (read the passages quoted above). Repentance from such things is the only way to life.

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TrueWitness Oct 15, 2010

I was wonder if anyone had information on the Free Masons, also is it biblical to be a Mason? If not where would scripture be found to help someone see the reasoning?

Freemasons have 33 degrees (levels of apprenticeship) which require the initiate to make a blood oath swearing that they will not divulge any secrets to a non-freemason.

Jesus said:
Matthew 5:33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself [NKJV: swear falsely], but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of EVIL.

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mguldner Oct 15, 2010

Thank you for all of your help, I have been told by the guys that are christians that are masons they see nothing wrong with the free mason economy. I have always been aware of the works based salvation they preach, but they do seem to think this is a danger. I actually saw one of their books its written in code to outsiders can't read it and you advance by good works and rights of passage.

They honor the Grand Architect who the Christian masons hold to be considered God while God the Father doesn't hold to a works based salvation. The Error of this leads to two extremes one is incredible condemnation when they don't make par or incredible pride and complancy when the individual reaches a certain level.

Many hold to the Free Masons because they don't view it as a religion but society, while other simply stay in it because their dad's were masons and so they wanted to be a mason too to pass on the family tradition.

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SolaVeritas Oct 16, 2010

Our first move in a case of uncertainty like this ("Is it ok for a Christian to be a free mason?")ought to be prayer. Thanks be to God that we can ask the Holy Spirit to give us discernment, and He will reveal the truth to us. Men's opinions are not quite as reliable...

sermonindex Oct 16, 2010

The book you need to get is "Fast Facts on False Teachings" by Ed Decker & Ron Carlson. Ed is a former Freemason & Mormon. This book is a must I believe. Some of these books just give you a 1-page key summary description of a false religion. Some give you a 100 page microanalyzation. This one tells you all you need to know & doesn't drag out all you don't need to know. Most of the different false religions are explained in about 10-20 pages. Explained very well & supported by historical facts. Handy for the evangelistically focused who will encounter all types.

sermonindex Oct 16, 2010

Our first move in a case of uncertainty like this ("Is it ok for a Christian to be a free mason?")ought to be prayer.

Why would you pray about something that the Bible forbids? Most of the information on the Free Masons (as some is provided by defectors) isn't man's opinion. In matter's like this, solid research should come out before you even begin praying if it's the right thing to do or not. The only thing that should be prayed about is for God to reveal the information you would need to know before you even considered praying about joining.
Mathew is looking the the right places.

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ginnyrose Oct 16, 2010

Why would you pray about something that the Bible forbids?
The only thing that should be prayed about is for God to reveal the information you would need to know

These statement have far-reaching applications and they are true. That is why we have the written word - so we will never be in any doubt about what is God's will on the many issues that confront mankind.

ginnyrose

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