NEW SHOCKING VIDEO - IHOP, Rick Joyner, Bill Johnson, Mike Bickle, John Crowder

If you know these ministries, you may well be very shocked to watch this new Youtube video-

SHOCKING VIDEO 3 -”Naming Names”- Please forward it to your friends if you can. -The third (and final) part of our “SHOCKING DOCUMENTARY – Kundalini Warning”.

Here is the link–
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWeUNoR30_0

-Interested in your comments.

hi,i saw this first hand in a great church i attended in the new orleans area.we were an on fire,growing young church with an outreach in the community;especially to the homeless.we built the largest church in the area and than came rodney howard brown with the laughing and barking and drunk in the spirit ministry...i gave this a few months to test the spirit because i was very involved in the homeless outreach and saw lives changed in that ministry... the pastor,who i played golf with and loved and respected told me he had never experienced much in the way of anything supernatural started to be drunk in some of the services and i just had to go elsewhere.i still have friends who go to that church and they said that the wildfire is over and the Holy Spirit is leading in a more civil manner...the church lost solid members during this time and gained every type of religeous nut in the area.this was a sad experience for me for i have danced and ran and shouted and applauded in services but never wanted the gift of torette syndrome because it just is not a biblical experience...it draws attention to self and away from Christ...it does not produce holiness.jimp

I believe one of things that leaves me is the fact that God does operate even in the midst of these strange behaviours. While unbiblical God still visits where two or more are gathered in His name. Please understand I am not saying that these behaviours are of God by far brothers and sisters. But my point is there is and has been ministry that takes place even amongst these strange occurances. How do I know? I went to an Ihop conference and saw a dear friend and sister in Christ greatly ministered to over a broken friendship, after which some of the most fervent and heartfelt prayers came forth out of our little group for my hometown that I have ever heard. I went to meet with God, He showed up and He gave me a boldness to pray, simply pray for strangers that God's peace would fill them and that they would have real passion for Him and relationship.

The shaking I did, the jerking I did, the question I had to ask was did it change me on the inside and cause a deeper relationship with Christ, I would have to say no. It really didn't, however my focus wasn't on manifesting but on Christ and knowing Him and serving others in prayer.

Just thought I would point this out though largely unbiblical some very biblical ministry does take place even amongst the weird activity and to keep these people in loving care, which I know is the heart of Brother Strom.

I really hated what I saw.

It reminded me of what happened in church back in the early '90s.

There were two sisters in the church sitting in the front row. They were laughing during the sermon, one more than the other. No one else was.

One eventually stopped, but the other one continued, trying to supress the laughter occasionally.

After the service I asked her what was going on. She said she was sorry, but she had watched a video on the Toronto blessing.

Seems like these things are easily taught and caught.

We do seriously need discernment and a genuine fear of God.

This is what happens when the Word of God isn't preached in it's entirety. Great foolishness teetering on great deception

The IHOP crew came to our church a few months ago, about 300 of them. I just didn't like the way they shook and keeled over just about every minute. They were so anxious to 'spread the fire'.

The thing that broke the camel's back was during the preaching of the Word on the last day [phew!]. Some young women just couldn't stop giggling and laughing. And the 'minister' quoted Psalm 2 saying this was of the Holy Ghost laughing at His enemies!

This happened in a church with sober-minded under-shepherds!

This thing is more widespread than it seems.

Which I believe is the point, so many have been spiritually sleeping that this kind of activity is a beacon of hope that God is still moving and so deperate for something to happen we find lax discernment for the sake of the movement of God to come through, like I said real ministry can happen amongst those that go to these meetings. A great deal of them don't know better some even grew up in the Ihop setting and so its hard to discern these kind of things.

I remember praying for a young boy at the Onething Conference last year, his older buddy was praying for him too trying to get him to manifest, I gently whispered in the young man's ear its not about the movements and manifesting its about a change that takes place on the inside Don't concern yourself with the moving but look to life long change in the Lord. His friend was consistant until I gave him the raised ebrow like dude chill.

'Thus says the LORD, "Behold I am about to fill all the inhabitants of this land—the kings that sit for David on his throne, the priests, the prophets and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem—with drunkenness!

"I will dash them against each other, both the fathers and the sons together," declares the LORD. "I will not show pity nor be sorry nor have compassion so as not to destroy them.

"Listen and give heed, do not be haughty, For the LORD has spoken.Give glory to the LORD your God, Before He brings darkness And before your feet stumble On the dusky mountains, And while you are hoping for light He makes it into deep darkness, And turns it into gloom.

But if you will not listen to it, My soul will sob in secret for such pride; And my eyes will bitterly weep And flow down with tears, Because the flock of the LORD has been taken captive. Jeremiah 13:13-17

In times of revival and extraordinary moves of the Holy Spirit, many people get caught up with supernatural manifestations and begin to seek for the manifestations instead of the Lord Himself. The enemy has used this to sidetrack and derail many a move of God. These manifestations, shaking, laughter, weeping, etc. etc. have occured in many revivals that have been documented.

“One Friday night last spring, when praying by my bedside before retiring, I was taken up to a great expanse – with out time and space. It was communion with God. Before this a far-off God I had. I was frightened that night, but never since. So great was my shivering that I rocked the bed, and my brother, being awakened, took hold of me, thinking I was ill." What is this? This is from the testimony of Evan Roberts which appeared on Sermon Index, just the other day.

There are two extremes that are to be avoided when dealing with manifestations in time of revival. One extreme is to embrace all manifestions as coming from God without exercising true discernment. The other extreme is to take all manifestions as coming from the devil.

I am thankful that men like Andrew Strom are discerning correctly that there is much activity going on in the church today that is fleshly and even demonic. What concerns me is that Andrew Strom has in the past and in the present wrongly called certain moves of God and revivals as being counterfeit when in reality they were of God initially but somewhere along the way got sidetracked through either a lack of discernment of the leaders or a religious spirit of judgementalism that actually quenched the Holy Spirit and brought in man's control.

One example of a move of the Holy Spirit that I am very familiar with that Andrew Strom completely missed the boat on was the Brownsville revival. He became offended by many of the manifestions that were going on and ended up siding with Hank Handegraff in calling it a counterfeit revival. Was every thing that took place at the Brownsville revival of God? Certainly not! Yet, God moved in a powerful way as a result of prayer and intercession resulting in the salvation of thousands as well as the restoration of countless backsliders.

I agree with Andrew that John Crowder is encouraging drunkeness and is leading many young people astray. He should be avoided and Charismatic leaders should be speaking out against what is going on in his meetings.

However, to put Mike Bickle, Lou Engel and IHOP as being in the same camp as John Crowder would be throwing out the baby with the bath water. Not everything that goes on at IHOP is of the Lord, but yet the Lord is using this ministry greatly in bringing many young people to a passionate devotion to Jesus Christ. Some of the most dedicated, sold out Christians that I know are associated with IHOP, Mike Bickle, and Lou Engel.

Let us prove all things and hold fast to that which is good.

Mike

In Baton Rouge, we have a couple a devout Bible students that have had to decide to quit conducting praise and worship at a local church. Because of the church's recent turn towards this ihop strange spirit. They knew nothing of ihop until after but knew right away something was wrong.

Jimp is right, this will never produce holiness. It is sad. I feel very down for those who have gotten caught up in this.

Just a few weeks ago, we had several call in our radio station, testifying of how they barely got out of the cult. They could feel themselves loosing grip with reality. They keep you there and keep you there... not good, warn others!

Yes and this also paves the way into the antichrist's army. These young people will bite right into his deception.

Wow - some really amazing testimonies.

Yes - IHOP is certainly on the move and spreading this stuff.

Has anybody else seen this?

Wow - some really amazing testimonies. Yes - IHOP is certainly on the move and spreading this stuff. Has anybody else seen this?

I was into Jesus Culture (the worship band at Bethel, in Redding, CA) I emotionally connected with the music. Then I started receiving impartations from the leaders at Bethel. I am convinced I received an unclean spirit. There is a great Darkness rising in the world. But the righteous will shine like stars because they have the bright morning star, Jesus Christ, the real Jesus, not the false Jesus that these places say is giving this "anointing" impartation, or whatever it is, it is not from God. Please Saints be so careful, I was into this whole thing and God brought me out. Thank you Jesus for saving me.

Jesus is Victor.

He alone is worthy of all praise. The lamb of God who shed his blood for me on the cross. Praise Jesus!

Andew,

Thank you for sharing this video and your comments; coming from someone like yourself who was involved in the prophetic movement is helpful.

God be with you!
Brian

My friend, it is so sad to see all this stuff get worse and worse having been involved with the US Prophetic movement some years ago. Very sad and very disturbing.

-Andrew