Canadian PM: I Will Defend Israel 'whatever the cost'

Greg, can you show us from Scripture, please, where Christians are counseled to become involved in politics the way you are suggesting?

I am not Canadian but im pretty close (I can see Canada from my apartment on the coast of Michigan's thumb, eh). When I worked at Target at my local mall probably about half our customers were Canadian so I know quite a few and I must say, I think its great what the PM said.

If I were Canadian I would want to encourage my PM as you said Greg. Thanks for sharing this, the days are dark but our king just happens to be the Father of Heavenly Lights, we should not worry about darkness with a name like that ;) If this man is our brother, then I think it would really please the Father to see other brothers and sisters encourage him, build him up saints!

Matthew 5:13 (King James Version)

13Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

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The Bible says in both Psalm 24:1 & 1 Cor. 10:26 that the “For the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof”

In Daniel 2:21 is says that God removes kings and setteth up kings.

And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:

To imply that God has nothing to do with politics is ridicules. We need to pray for the leaders in our nations. Pray that God would raise up Godly leaders before us.

We understand that we cannot legislate morality; and the church was never told to take over government. We are to go to all the world and preach the gospel and make disciples of all men.

Therefor we need godly people in every walk of life; there standing up for godly living based on Biblical principles. We need God-fearing, Bible believing, Holy Spirit filled people preaching the truth of Gods Word to their peers.

We need Christian politicians, doctors, lawyers, computer programmers, university professors, teachers, carpenters, plumbers, truck drivers… etc.etc.etc.

We need Godly people in every place in our culture to stand up what is right and tell a culture what is right and that Jesus Christ should be glorified in our nations.

We cannot just hide in our churches and let the world go to Hell saying that “we are not supposed to get involved in that”. Baloney! This earth is the Lords and the fullness thereof and we should not let our culture continue to blasphemy the Lord. We need to stand up for what is right. Pray that God would save those in leadership over our nation or raise up others that are.

We will never vote in a Christian Utopia, but I will not stand by and see my country and culture mock my God. Where are the Elijah’s of God???

In 1 Thessalonians Paul comments that they sent Timothy to “comfort you concerning your faith”.

(1 Thessalonians 3:2 And sent Timotheus, our brother, and minister of God, and our fellowlabourer in the gospel of Christ, to establish you, and to comfort you concerning your faith)

There is absoultly nothing wrong with Greg suggesting that we write a letter to encourage the PM in making righteous decisions. If this is a Christian brother he needs our prayers and encouragement not our silence. He will be under great attack. If all he hears from is the negative and never encouragement from his brothers and sisters he will leave and think that the Christians just don’t care.

The real question is my brother:

Can you show us in scripture where writing an encouraging letter to a Christian or anyone who makes righteous decisions for our countries is wrong?

Can you show us in scripture where writing an encouraging letter to a Christian or anyone who makes righteous decisions for our countries is wrong?

I didn't mean to start this debate again; I think it's been dealt with not once or twice on this forum.

There's nothing at all wrong with sending an encouraging letter to Mr. Harper. I myself am Canadian, and we are exhorted to pray for him and others in authority.

We will never vote in a Christian Utopia, but I will not stand by and see my country and culture mock my God. Where are the Elijah’s of God???

I'm not going to get into a debate about whether or not it's right for a Christian to vote or not. But what are you going to do to see that your country and culture stop mocking God?

You ask where the Elijah's of God are. But Elijah didn't join Ahab's government in order to try to change things.

He went to his knees. And then he came on the scene and told Ahab it wasn't going to rain unless he said so. Where did he get authority like that? From God.

"As the LORD God of Israel liveth before whom I stand there shall not be dew nor rain these years, but according to my word" (1 Kings 17.1).

Daniel as well. He actually was involved in the government. But when he realized the time for Israel's return from Babyloninan captivity was nigh, he didn't go to Cyrus the king about it.

Read Daniel Ch. 9. He went to his knees.

...I wish we Christians would realize-- can't we see it-- that our involvement in earthly politics, membership in political parties, etc.... it isn't doing the job! Yes I know, Christians have got things done that way at times. Wilberforce is a prime example.

But... can't we see? It isn't doing what needs to be done in our day! A blind man can see that!

We need to see the reality of the kind of "politics" the apostles were involved in, and the early church, so that a Higher Throne is manifested in the earth. THAT is what the church is supposed to be all about.

Don't you believe the Lord Jesus Christ can raise up men like that, a church like that... Elijah's like that?

To clarify I believe in the kingdom of God of which we are a part of. And our concern should be for that kingdom and not at all really the kingdoms of the earth.

Amen.

Just out of curiosity, on what basis do people say that Stephen Harper is a genuine Christian?

The reason I ask is because I know that many political leaders have played the "religious card" in order to get people's votes and support. For example, George Bush was long heralded as a born-again Christian. He played the religious card very well, and many people extolled his supposed faith in Jesus Christ. He seemed to have everything:
1) What seemed to be a testimony of repentance;
2) Support for Israel;
3) Against abortion;
4) Christian-like values and language;
5) Membership in an evangelical church…

However, as soon as Bush was out of office, his true colors came out. He denied that Christ was the only way to be saved, denied that the Bible is the truth, affirmed that Muslims will be saved, and shrugged people who take a stand for the truth as arrogant people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6o15aBqC4g

I counsel people to be cautious and not to assume that a person is a Christian just because that person claims to be, especially not political leaders. As for Stephen Harper, I honestly don’t know where he stands. But, I prefer staying on the side of caution.