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Christ was only God inside the flesh?

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jeremyhulsey Sep 4, 2003

Quote: "Jesus is indeed God... INSIDE the Flesh. God never died. The image of the invisible God, the manifestation of God, the flesh of God, died. God himself never did. That's what Jesus is. The son of God. He was "God with us". God inside us. God walking around inside of a human. Because Jesus was, in fact, completely Human, with the spirit of God instead of a human spirit."In a different debate Zapthy made the former statement. Jesus had only the Spirit of God and not that of a human??? If that's the case then He could not redeem our human spirits. Jesus was fully God all the way through with all the attributes of God. He was also human all the way through, including a human soul(spirit). 100%God and 100% man in total harmony and unity without division. If only the part of Jesus died, which is impossible, then He could not offer Himself as a sacrifice for our sins.Monophysite Heresy:Monophysite: a position opposed to the Chalcedonian two-nature doctrine of Christ's identity. Monophysites insist that Christ has a single nature, which is divine. Christ's flesh is in reality transformed into this divine nature. The Jacobite church in Syria, the Coptic church in Egypt, the Abyssinian and Armenian churchs are all monophysite. At Chalcedon, site of the fourth ecumenical council in 451 A.D, the monophysite teachings of Eutyches of Constantinople were rejected as being heretical. The two natures of Christ coexist in him without 'confusion, change, division or separation.' The council of Ephesus' rejection of Nestorius was reaffirmed. In Christ,Jeremy Hulsey

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discipleonthemove Sep 4, 2003

Aaaaaaaah........BISTO!(Brits will understand)Good to hear the Truth.It looks good, it tastes good, and, BY GOLLY it does you good! :-D

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TaKa Sep 5, 2003

DUDE! This is cool! I was just reading about this subject this week when I came across this thread. Here are a few notes from what I'm reading:During the fourth and fifth centuries, church councils combated the threat of heresy, often regarding the doctrines of the divine Trinity and the divine and human natures of Christ.The Council of Nicaea condemned the Arians, who denied that Christ coexisted with the Father from all eternity.The Council of Ephesus condemned the Nestorians, who claimed that the divine and human personalities were separate in Christ.The Council of Chalcedon condemned the Monophysites, who held that Christ had only one nature combining the human and the divine.Pretty interesting reading

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jeremyhulsey Sep 6, 2003

It is interesting that Arius(the founder of Arianism) and Anthanasius who fought the establishing of Arianism were both from Alexandria Egypt. Arius was considered a dangerous teacher even by the bishop of Alexandria and was not even allowed to go to the first council of Nicea to defend his teachings. Arianism was such an unacceptable heresy that the proponents of this philosophy were not even allowed to finish their discourse at the council. The Arianists, however, were good friends with Constantine, and by the time his son reigned, Arianism was the official line of teaching promoted by the now Holy Roman Empire (No longer based in Rome by-the-way but in Constantinople and was renamed the Byzantine empire.). Constantine was even baptised by an Arian minister into Christianity before he died.I believe it was the great Capedocians (Gregory, Basil, and another Gregory) who finally swung the philosophy of the empire back to the right teaching that Jesus was apart of the Godhead from eternity and equal with the Father.After they had settled the fact that Jesus was God equal to the Father and the Holy Spirit, it was then that they wrestled with Jesus' dual natures of being both human and God.The Western Church never really wrestled with these issues thanks to the theological teachings of I believe Tertullian.

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