Some history of the reformation we need to look at. Life and death..

The Systematic Murder of Believers
Berean Beacon

Dear Partner in the Gospel,
The systematic murder of believers is an indictment against the Papacy that is warranted. Interest in the history the Inquisition continues, and many people, including Catholics, desire to get the facts in written format.

This we do, together with the actual photos of instruments of torture and death, and accompanied by more than 600 years of dreadful horror. In the words of the renowned Catholic historian Lord Acton, “The Inquisition is peculiarly the weapon and peculiarly the work of the Popes.

It stands out from all those things in which they co-operated, followed or assented as the distinctive feature of papal Rome. The principle of the Inquisition is the Pope’s sovereign power over life and death.

Whosoever disobeys him should be tried and tortured and burnt. That is to say, the principle of the Inquisition is murderous, and a man’s opinion of the Papacy is regulated and determined by his opinion of religious assassination.”

We wish to reach out in love especially to those within the Papal system; while the article is strong in denunciation, nonetheless we trust the Lord’s own promise, “the truth shall make you free.”

The article is a valuable source of documented historical truth, kindly makes it known to others. It is located at: http://www.bereanbeacon.org/SMBe.pdf

We regret that we cannot email the article to you as a Word document because of the many photos that are embedded in it. Our DVD on the Inquisition continues to attract thousands of viewers on the Internet. For example it is easily viewed at:
http://www.archive.org/details/CatholicInquisition

Hi Ginnyrose, did you know that the foundations of those torturers was the "Dominicans," a Catholic group founded in France in 1214 by "Saint Dominic." Rather than earning their living on vast farms as the monasteries had done, the new friars would survive by begging, "selling" themselves through persuasive preaching. (hmm, sound familiar?)

Anyway, they persecuted the Albigensians. When the inquisition started, the grand inquisitor, Tomás de Torquemada, came from the order of the Dominicans. To top of the evil, their banner would state for " the love of Christ." Yes sister, this order of preacher came from the pit...........brother Frank

Hi sister,

It is true, there was much persecution by the reformers. I think when the next persecution comes, there will be no where to go. Initially there will be, I believe, as Matthew said, secret meetings, house meeting much like China. Yet if the prophetic calender points to Christ coming back, and His return is imminent, then this also spells the end for the accuser of the brethren. So, the times will be unprecedented. This is why I believe that the Lord will pour out His Spirit on the remnant in such a way as to prepare us for this coming storm. He will overshadow us for sure, and fill us to enable us. Now is the time to draw near to Him and follow Him with all of our hearts.........brother Frank

'How I would vastly need God's grace under such a circumstance."

Gods grace is sufficient brother and He will never leave us nor forsake us. By the way Ginneyrose, I dont believe that there will be torture involved, I dont believe that the time just before Christ comes back will be a time of the enemy trying to get someone to convert. The enemy will simply be trying to kill every Christian on the earth..........brother Frank

I believe that it is healthy and natural to tremor some,with considering the viciousness and cruelty that the Roman "church" has responded to all who will not bend the knee to her authority....[and wicked faith.] [She has not changed...but forced to apply a bit more make-up..]

It is apparent that the church is destined for a time of trial, that will encompass the entire earth, America included. These tortures against the family of God in the reformation centuries were meant to instill terror.

As today, when we consider the Satanic will involved, and willing human beings that would actually implement this degree of Sadism to another of Gods creatures, we shutter.

Imagine one of your children, say your 12 year old daughter, subjected to the unthinkable, while you must watch. ...All in the name of serving God. Most parents probably would recant Jesus, on the spot. This was the idea, and the nature of terrorism. Total fear injected...
JOB 2
...[4]And Satan answered the LORD, and said, "Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life.

5. But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face."

This is how Satan thinks, and his strategy to dominate, and the nature of terrorism.
REVELATION 18
1. And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

2. And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

3. For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

I think that this refers to the Roman Catholic Church; and she will fall; utterly destroyed and humiliated. The question is, to WHO? I believe that Islam will rise, and through a series of global wars that weakens the West immensely,and rise to implement the Mark of the Beast....the Islamic Messiah. The meaning of Islam is to submit.

Whatever that mark is, you must have it to buy or sell, and the penalty for it's refusal will be death...mostly as it is today in Sharia Law.... by beheading. This usually is not tortuous.

But let us remember, Jesus promised a remnant..and even some who would be kept from "The Hour of Temptation that will encompass the whole World."

There will be those who will witness the glorious return of the Lord Jesus Himself, and meet those already under the alter of God, who have cried out, "How Long? Will you not avenge our blood?" Some died 2000 years ago..... [ these were beheaded...KJV..]

I believe that immense commensurate Faith and Grace will fall upon these end-time Remnant people, more than we can imagine. "The Bride has made herself ready..."...but the garments of righteousness are from the Lord. BT

" I am curious as to see if it's true......
I was told the Pope stated the Islamic Messiah is more likely the true Messiah."..mguldner

That would be some news if it were true, but I doubt it. His authority rests on himself being the "vicar" of Christ...[and I stress the word THE...meaning one and only..], meaning that the Pope is the representative on the EARTH with the valid authority to rule in His name.

He would never abdicate that position by such a statement, and if he were to, he would probably disappear into the night. There is a long history of some infamous assassinations within the walls of the Vatican.

As far a Islam goes, remember that the holy wars of the crusades were primarily a battle between Islam and the West for control of the known world, and the RCC was the primary standard bearer for the armies of Europe against the Muslim aggression.

This battle continues today of course, with a meteoric rise in Islamic power due to OIL wealth from the PERSIAN GULF, and a resurgence of the spirit of JIHAD, or Holy War.

I also believe though, that IT IS and WILL BE a battle of the TWO Messiahs, and which one is the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. This is why I believe the White horse of Revelation is Islam.

Mohammed rose to Heaven flying on his famous WHITE STEED;

"Muhammad's extraordinary journey to heaven started in the Ka'bah in Mecca, where he was sleeping. The archangel Gabriel woke him up and led him outside to Buraq, a white horse (the name means 'white horse') equipped with huge wings.

Buraq took Muhammad to visit heaven, visiting Jerusalem en route. Muhammad passed through the various stages of heaven, meeting Adam in the first, Jesus in the second and so on. In the sixth heaven he met Moses, and in the seventh, Abraham. Beyond it was Paradise. Before Buraq returned him home, Muhammad also visited hell.

The story of Muhammad's journey has had a profound influence on Islamic thought, and Sufism in particular sees it as a powerful metaphor for man's spiritual journey.".......[British Library; UK...

"Consider beheading for a moment: this method of execution had fallen into disfavor in the much of the world in the 20th century except for the Islam world who still embraced this method of execution.

IF they are the ones who will eventually rule the world, one can reasonably expect that this will become the choice method of execution.

The ones who Jesus will resurrect with be those that were victims of the beast, etc. and who will rule with him for a thousand years."................................................................

Exactly Ginnyrose....This fact has also influenced my ideas, and as you say, along with their rocket like rise to power, coupled with their ideas about JIHAD....subdueing EVERYONE under the sword of Mohammed..[The sword is on their flag....]...It appears to me that out of Islam..

Authorities examined the hadiths and teachings about Al-Madhi, we now summarize what we know about al-Mahdi from the above discussion.

* He will be Islam's deliverer.
* He is to be a descendant of Muhammad.
* He is to bear the name or some variant name of Muhammad.
* He will look like a Bani Israel.
* He will lead the Muslims and wage jihad against them rest of the world.
* He will rule over the world.
* He will cause Islam to be the only religion in the world and rule with Islamic Law.
* He will unite Islam (2 horns?)
* He will be much loved by the world.
* He will conquer the Jews and slaughter them.
* He will set up his seat of authority in Jerusalem.
* He will rule for seven years (or 8, or 9).
* He will make a treaty of seven years with a person of priestly lineage.
* He will possess and distribute wealth to the Muslims.
* He will discover a new Torah, Gospel, and the Ark, and will use them to argue and persuade Jews and Christian, and cause many people to follow him into Islam.
* During his rule, there will be good rain, great harvest and crops."

The article goes on to connect this Mahdi with the antichrist of Bible prophecy. I believe the article's section on the Biblical antichrist has some problems such as the use of Daniel 8 to describe the future ...

[Watchman bible study..] on line..

I think we will see anti-Christ emerge from Islam.