Gay 'marriages' to be allowed in church

What a shameful thing this is!

Days before we heard that in Britain many were turning to Islam and now the thought of proposing an act that allows same-sex marriages in the church. Can it get worse than this?

Is this is the same England where John Wesley, George Whitefield and such men of God labored?

I read the same thing in BBC as well: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/uk-12442375?SThisFB

We forget that those who we revere as laborers for Lord were working in a land where others had labored before. Didn't God have to send many prophets and raise up righteous leaders to turn the people of Israel back to Him? God is not done with England or His Body there.

Come Lord Jesus!

Sign of the times folks. Nothing suprises me anymore these days.

I agree Miccah. Has our love grown cold though in order to have such a monotone reaction?

The level of revulsion I feel towards even the thought of this subject is gigantic.

What bothers me more is the fact that I do not believe these are true Churches but are mere Social Meeting Places. What happens in one of those Social Meeting Place is not surprising. The worse part is that those type of churches are the norm and not the exception.

The scripture, 'Let the dead bury the dead' rings in my ears.

Reprobates is what they are, beyond the promptings of a conscience.

Come out from her, my people!!!!

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It is indeed...a time to cry.

Giggles. I do understand your point. As I am maturing in my walk with the Lord, I have found that the less emotional that I react on issues, the more prayerful I become in it's (emotions) place.

I am an emotional man Giggles. I don't know the last time I have been to worship and not cried or been choked up. Everytime my wife and I watch a "chick flick", I'm the one who needs a tissue. :-P Spending time with the Lord brings me to tears at times. If you would talk to my wife, you would see that I am far from a monotone person, lol.

Yet, I find that over-reacting or getting all worked up about an issue is not all that beneficial to me. The more time that I spend being emotional about a subject, the less time I petition the Lord over it. Also, I understand where these folks are coming from, since I used to be one (unsaved).

The Lord is blessing me in my walk with Him more then I can explain. Thank you for your concern and I do appreciate your faithfulness. Blessings!

This won't stop us from ministering to them and loving them. In spite of this, they will still need Jesus.

If this is allowed this will open up a WHOLE new can of worms. If they are allowed to marry and they see the error of their ways; will the church accept them if they are "divorced?" Do you see the quandry here for fundamental christians?

Most churches don't even accept regular divorced folks, let alone what the outcome this will bring. Only the Lord knows the answer to all the questions.

God help us to always be ready to reach out and pull them out of the fire regardless of our personal beliefs.

God bless,
Lisa

Well said Miccah. You have your heart audited and in order: perhaps I need a closer inspection on my own, as I have not been too prayerful of late or open-hearted.

Hello Lysa,

As much as there are glaring wrongs in the original subject of this thread your comment

Most churches don't even accept regular divorced folks, let alone what the outcome this will bring. Only the Lord knows the answer to all the questions.

Do you mean to tell me that even though I worship Jesus Christ and so does my husband of 36 years, the errors we made before we were saved would mark me as unfit to join a Church? Makes me feel glad we have been led to stay out of organized religion as it is practiced in this world.

Kind regards,
white stone

If they are allowed to marry and they see the error of their ways; will the church accept them if they are "divorced?" Do you see the quandry here for fundamental christians?

Lysa, the issue is who determines what a marriage is - the state or God? A homo relationship is an abomination regardless what the state says - it cannot sanctify an abomination. To commit yourself to practice an abomination for any length of time is a commitment that needs to be repented of regardless of state laws.

I see no conflict at all.

ginnyrose

Lysa wrote:
Most churches don't even accept regular divorced folks; let alone what the outcome this will bring. Only the Lord knows the answer to all the questions.

White_Stone responded:
Do you mean to tell me that even though I worship Jesus Christ and so does my husband of 36 years, the errors we made before we were saved would mark me as unfit to join a Church?

Well, just don’t tell them about it!! Sadly, I’ve come to the conclusion that most Christians operate better in the dark (concerning my past (edit: and probably yours too)), they don't (feel they) have to make decisions whether they continue to associate with me or not.

I mean, I think it’s terrible; that I can’t feel like I can praise God what "everything" He has done in my life, especially since I don’t live the way I used to! (*This is my experience with churches).

But do you know who accepts “ALL” of my testimony? The girls at jail!

God bless you,
Lisa

(edited 4 clarity)

If they are allowed to marry and they see the error of their ways; will the church accept them if they are "divorced?" Do you see the quandry here for fundamental christians?

Lysa, the issue is who determines what a marriage is - the state or God? A homo relationship is an abomination regardless what the state says - it cannot sanctify an abomination. To commit yourself to practice an abomination for any length of time is a commitment that needs to be repented of regardless of state laws.

I see no conflict at all.

God bless!

God help us to always be ready to reach out and pull them out of the fire regardless of our personal beliefs.

It is said we are going to be seeing all sorts of ungodliness come into the Church (Church with walls & without walls).

O' God that we may be ready to receive them with the unconditional love of Jesus and may we be ready to take them to Him in complete repentance. Jesus came to set the captives free - I can shout Hallelujah to my King, my Savior, my Deliverer etc. I was a captive and now I am free indeed. Every single person was held a captive to something.
Not of this sin was I captive but I was held captive as was everyone of us.
No one and nothing is too hard for the Lord! All glory to God.
When we see people who dont know Him we should see a person who needs to be set free, a person who needs a Savior, a person God created, a person Jesus died on the cross for. We are no better. We may not have sinned that certain sin but we have no right as a Christian to point the finger unless it is to point it upward to Jesus the Savior of the world - the lover of our souls.

Lysa, it is true that self-righteousness reigns in most churches today. There is very little rejoicing over a sinner set free. I agree, it is best if people know not the facts of our past but just a Hallelujah of our present and that we were set free and that they can be also.

It is the people who God has set free and are free indeed who we can share what God has done for us. The people who are burdened down with sin. They know what it's like to be forgiven and set free. These are the ones who will embrace the sinner and lead them to the Cross. These are the ones, I believe, who will be the remnant.

What the self-righteous person is blind to is that they need to be set free as they are held captive as any sinner in any sin.

Jesus made this real clear. He had rather have us hot or cold but He will vomit the lukewarm (self-righteous) person out of His mouth!
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Rev 3:15 "I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot.

Rev 3:16 "So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth.
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So, we humbly pray Dear Lord, take anything out of us that is not of You. Let us love Dearest Lord with Your heart, with Your eyes. Let us never be soft on sin Lord - but with Your mercy and grace take the sinner to the Cross. We can only do this with Your help Dearest Lord. Because Dearest Lord, You are worthy Jesus, You are worthy. Amen and Amen Be glorified O' God!

Lysa said:

"Most churches don't even accept regular divorced folks"

Really????? Where I live they do!!

Really????? Where I live they do!!

The point I was trying to make is that divorced heterosexual folks have a hard time in most churches; now, there could be divorced homosexual folks in church! (***Ginny has already straightened me out on that; I was just reiterating what I meant in my first post.)

I do know one thing churches do allow divorced people to do and that is show up and pay their tithes!

God bless,
Lisa