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davidc Feb 22, 2011


In launching this thread on the Kingdom of God, I am aware that christians have differing views on this and other eschatological issues. Can I make it clear from the outset that I love all my brothers and sisters in Christ and regard them as one with me in the Body of Christ. I do not believe that different views about the last days affects in any way our salvation or our standing in Christ.

Of course, I am concerned that we have arrived at and hold to different views in these matters, and constantly pray the Lord will show me why it is the case, as we have (I trust) all studied carefully and prayerfully what the scriptures say.

As you may know I hold to the view that the Kingdom of God is yet for the future, after Christ comes, although there are aspects of Kingdom of God teaching which are applicable to the church, especially the spiritual aspects. Which is how it should be.

I spent 20 or so years in churches which believe that the Kingdom and the Church are the same, but personally found their understanding of the bible to be too narrow and limited, and having studied the bible, I came to the conclusion that the dispensational or future kingdom of God not only opens up all scripture to the understanding, but glorifies Christ even more.

Below is an extract from an article by Fred Butler showing the main two ways of seeing the Kingdom of God. Some may have other views altogether,or a combination of the two, but perhaps this is a good springboard to start.

in Christ David


Fred Butler
I believe it is necessary to define one other important element in our discussion and that has to do with defining the Kingdom of God. Here, with the idea of God's Kingdom, we find once again a significant difference between the covenant Reformed believers and the non-covenant Reformed believers.

Let me begin with the covenant Reformed believers. Simply put, without few exceptions, the covenant Reformed equate the Kingdom of God (KoG) with the NT Church. Though there is an understanding that a future and eternal aspect of the KoG still awaits for eternity, the Christian Church IS the KoG now in the present. This "KoG = the Church" concept is the key factor in defining the amillennial and to a degree, the postmillennial, systems. Hence, at this point in Christian history, the KoG has come upon the earth in the form of the Christian Church which now awaits the consummation of all things at Christ's return who will usher in the eternal state.

The 5th century Church father, Augustine, was the first to write at length on this premise of the KoG equating the Church in his massive tome, The City of God [Culver 2005, 857]. Augustine's position has been the one held by the Roman Catholic Church up to our modern times, and was the position adopted by the Protestant Reformers which continued to shape their eschatology even after they broke away from Catholicism. Tragically, Augustine's Kingdom/Church theology resulted in some disastrous circumstances throughout the course of Church history, including the marrying of Church and state, the persecution of heretical dissenters by the Church/state, and a long record of political intrigue among the various popes, bishops, kings, and emperors.

Yet, it must be noted the covenant Reformed just don't adhere to this view out of blind loyalty to historical traditions. They build their position on the Church/KoG by appealing to scripture and theology. Their first appeal is to the specific instances in the ministry of Jesus where He opened His ministry by pronouncing the KoG being "at hand," a little phrase that could also be translated "drawing near," (see for instance Matthew 10:7, Mark 1:15). The phrase "drawing near" has the idea of "coming upon." Christ proclaimed His gospel ministry to be directly speaking to the KoG preparing to "come upon" His audience. After His Resurrection, and the coming of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost when the Church was officially energized by God to carry forth the gospel message of the kingdom, that KoG "came upon" the people. So it is concluded the KoG and the NT Church are one and the same.

Moreover, the apostles, particularly Paul, spoke of the KoG in terms of relationship to the Church. For instance, he writes to the Colossians that in the work of God's salvation in their lives, they were "transferred into the kingdom of the Son of His love" (Col. 1:13). Salvation into the Church is equated with entrance into the kingdom.

Additionally, the covenant Reformed position will argue how the biblical understanding of "kingdom" is not one of a realm, with subjects and a king sitting on a throne, but rather speaks to the authority of a sovereign to rule or reign [Ladd, 122ff.]. So in other words, it is understood the Bible speaks primarily of an abstract dynamic to the KoG. That being, Christ's spiritual authority given to Him by the Father to rule the entire earth.
So, when we consider some of the further teaching from Christ and the apostles on the KoG, the emphasis is upon a spiritual dynamic, not a literal kingdom. For example, Jesus told Pilate in John 18:36 that His kingdom is "not of this world." Luke 17:20, 21 records Jesus as telling the Pharisees that the KoG is not observable, nor can anyone say "here it is" or "there it is," but that the KoG is "within you." When Paul wrote to the Roman Christians to correct some issues of division within their fellowship, he wrote in Romans 14:17 that the KoG is not about "eating and drinking, but is about righteousness and peace." In other words, the KoG is equated with the Church, the body of Christ, a spiritual group united around the true sovereign King.

And then one final argument raised is what is considered the complete lack of any teaching in the NT on Israel being restored in a future, geo-political kingdom [Crenshaw and Gunn, 247-262].

Contrasted with the covenant Reformed position is of course the non-covenant Reformed who have an entirely different perspective on the KoG. They believe the KoG is still future and is not at all equal to the Church.

Instead, the Church is distinguished from the KoG in that it is composed of those individuals both Jew and gentile who are now presently being called out by God to be a "spiritual aristocracy"(not my words, I would rather call them the Bride - David) who will one day inherit the kingdom [Culver 1954, 39]. These individuals are presently owned by Christ as King and are governed even now by His principles, but the full sense of the KoG awaits establishment for the simple reason that the King is absent, away from the scene of the kingdom [ibid].

Thus, when Jesus said the KoG was "at hand" or "drawing near," that was not to say it had arrived and so represents a higher order of spiritual reality coexisting with the present course of affairs [Blaising, 193], but that it was as Jesus stated, "drawing near." The idea being it is imminent in that Jesus has presented Himself as the sovereign of the KoG, but a futurity of the kingdom is still to come [Saucy, 94, 95]. That is why Christ taught His apostles, and by extension all believers, to pray "thy kingdom come."

Just like the covenant Reformed believers, the non-covenant Reformed also build their future eschatology on Scriptural considerations. The first feature being that the OT eschatology prophesied a future KoG which would be set up on the earth. Many OT prophesies spoke to this including Daniel 2:34, 35, 44, 7:13, 14; Isaiah 2:2-4, 11:1ff, 65:17; Micah 4:1-8; Zechariah 14:9, 10 to list just a small handful.

Secondly, Christ proclaimed these promises for Himself when He came, see for instance his words in Matthew 11:2-6 and Luke 19:12-17. Robert Culver points out with Luke 19:12-17 that Jesus made it clear to His disciples that He expected a long period of time to transpire BEFORE His kingdom should be established [Culver 1954, 36ff.]. The parable of the ten talents given by Jesus was in response to a misconception that the KoG "would appear immediately" (Luke 19:11). Also, in Acts 1:6, 7, the Lord again corrected the misconception of the KoG by the apostles who believed God was about the "restore the kingdom to Israel." He told them it was not for them to know the times and the seasons, meaning they were not to concern themselves with the timing of the kingdom. Note here that Jesus did not correct their misunderstanding of the KoG as it is to be equated with the Church, but He corrects their idea about the timing of the future kingdom's coming.

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passerby Feb 23, 2011

These are different expressions of the domain of God, having temporal and spatial characteristics (existence in relation to time or eternity, its beginning or end and existence in relation to space or location), having a unique way in which God exercises His control or dispense His providence and affection. Or_ whether it is metaphysical, or physical in nature.

There is no question that the God of Israel is the Sovereign Lord and His Kingdom in this sense is from everlasting to everlasting (Ps 24:1, Matt 5:34-35, Rev 19:16) without temporal or spatial limitations, whether in physical or spiritual realms, and whether it is over the:

-Church (kyriakon, oikos, or ekklesia)

-The kingdom of heaven (as depicted in matt 11:12, matt 4:17 or 'of God' in Mark 1:14,)

-The Kingdom of God (as depicted in Luke 17:20-21, Mark 1:14, Matt 6:9-13)

-The kingdom of Christ (as depicted in Jer 23:5, Jn 18:36)

-The kingdom in relation to Israel or Jerusalem (as depicted in matt 5:34-35, Acts 1:6, Daniel 9:24-27, Jer 23:5)

-The kingdom of Satan (as depicted in Matt 12:26)

They are not necessarily one and the same but in that day to come others will just be but past realities and the physical and spiritual will be one and the same.

At the moment, We looking at the past, current, and future of these realms.

In the current state of affairs, in some of these domains_satan, sin, hostilities, diseases, death, failures, and other frailties or restrictions of the mortals apply.

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passerby Feb 23, 2011

Dan 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.


How does a non-christian jew interpret these passages?
How does a christian interpret them?

When John (the baptist) and the Lord Jesus preached about the kingdom what do they mean? Was John still thinking like a jew?

The terms kingdom of heaven (found exclusively in the book of Matthew) and the kingdom of God were used interchangeably
in the bible, but are they absolutely one and the same?

In John 3:3 it says, " Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God".

There are lot more verses that relates the significance of the church to the 'kingdom' but is the church the 'kingdom' or is the 'kingdom' the church?

Consider Mat 13:31-32 "Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field:

Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof".

Is the church the "kingdom" now in evolution?

What composes the church, does it include the old testament
men and women of God, or it applies exclusively to new testament saints only?


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davidc Feb 23, 2011

Lots of really interesting questions, Passerby. Talking of the kingdoms, you say:

"They are not necessarily one and the same but in that day to come others will just be but past realities and the physical and spiritual will be one and the same."

This is just what is revealed to us through Paul in the Ephesian letter:

"Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him" Eph 1:9-10 (KJV)

There is a future age when the things on earth and the things in heaven (or as you say, the physical and the spiritual) will be gathered together into one in Christ. The "church age" we live in now does not claim to do this. We are in and age when Satan is the prince and God of this world, and God is taking out a people for His name. I believe we as christians do have the earnest or promise of the age to come by the Holy Spirit, but in this body we groan, waiting.

The scriptures also speak in three places of a time when the WHOLE EARTH will be FILLED with the Glory , or knowledge of the Glory of the Lord Num 14 v21, Hab 2 v14, Isaiah 11 v9 see also Ps72 v19. But our present age is spoken of as: "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptised shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be damned. "

The future age is also spoken of and a time when "ALL ISRAEL shall be saved", but the present time as: "Except the Lord of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah" and “Even so, then, at this present time also, there is a remnant according to the election of grace.”

The present age is truly a wonderful time to live, being fed with heavenly food, and daily communing with our Lord. And we rejoice, even in tribulations, because we rejoice in HOPE of the Glory of God.

But in the age to come, "the God of heaven will set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed." Dan 2 vs44. Christ will gather together in one, us, His heavenly bride, and Israel, His earthly people, and deliver up the kingdom to the Father, that God might be All in All.

David

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