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Osama Bin Laden....alive and well and blaspheming?

sermonindex May 9, 2011

Over the years, I have meditated about the anti-Christ, and his possible identity. Among those I have considered is Osama Bin Laden.

Let us remember something though about this coming man, the anti-Christ. He must be slain, and resurrected, according to the Bible.

This person, and his death, must be profoundly public, on a world wide basis, for the entire Earth will wonder...HOW?...and evidently most will then believe his claim that he is god almighty.

Let us look at one of the strangest prophecies in the Bible; the advent of the anti-Christ; The Beast.

Revelation 13...[KJV]
1. And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

3. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5. And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Believe it or not, Bin Laden is a possibility...of course, unlikely. I believe though, that the anti-Christ will be an Islamic general type, and be killed publicly, and then appears alive and well.

Watch the current boiling over in the Arab and Islamic nations. I think that a Caliphate is forming...a United States of Islam...and when this happens, and if Pakistan falls...Nuclear Warheads will be in their possession....and counting all of Islam in their possible war draft [soldiers]...they could draw from a billion and a half. 200 million would be possible easily.

Someone will lead it, and be that beastly man, and this one must be killed, and rise again. This one, and his armies will murder anyone, from infant to aged in the name of their god, Allah, if the knee is not bowed.

The infidels must die, or worship the devil god of murder, Allah.

It is going to come to pass..Jesus prophesied it, as did Paul...

3. "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4. Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."

Possibility.

W
White_Stone May 9, 2011

Very interesting presentation, Brother Tom,

Revelation 13...[KJV] 1. And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, . . .

Let's see now, didn't they say they buried the body in the sea??? If they had carried it to the USA for burial, it would be harder to have him come back to life, if everyone actually saw him dead. As it is we are just supposed to 'believe' he is dead. It is almost as if it has already become a religion (requiring faith and belief).

ws

sermonindex May 9, 2011

I agree with Whitestone, Tom. Very interesting take on this situation.

A777

sermonindex May 9, 2011

Jesus told the religious Jews while He was on earth - Me you reject but another you'll accept. [paraphrased]

We 'must' remember His words there because there is no way on earth that the Jews or nominal christians will fall for a Arab-Muslim as the AntiChrist!

This is important and not because I like disagreeing with anyone here at all.

The Jews especially will not receive a muslim - ever, and if we read Daniel - this son-of-perdition fakes Judaism or a tolerance for both Judaism and christianity enough to fool Most.

Reading Daniel 8 - the little horn comes After the Medes and Persians are taken down. That's the Arab nations.
There will always be conflict between Jews and Arabs.

Watch Daniel 8 be revealed - and when it does - you will be able to trace where this "little horn" rises up FROM.

The Revelation must be studied 'with' Daniel 7-12.

W
White_Stone May 9, 2011

Dear Jesus-is-God,

Thanks for bringing that up. You are right. Whew!

ws

sermonindex May 9, 2011

Unlike Jesus' time, Israel is mostly secular today. It will be interesting to see who they accept or reject.

M
mguldner May 9, 2011

I am unsure of the death of Osama however there are numerous pictures of his death on the internet but they have been proven as fakes, one is even a still shot from the movie Black Hawk Down. Our technology is scare good these days, I can make a poorly recorded version of his death with a recorder and people would probably believe it, this coming from one who has very little video editing skills, imagine someone who is actually good and considered an expert could do with unlimited resources.

D
DEADn May 9, 2011

When I see posts such as this all I want to do is sprint away as fast as I can. I will end my words there.

sermonindex May 9, 2011

I actually think the sea here in Revelation is nations and people's and not the ocean.

The Holy Spirit uses sea throughout the Bible to signify multitudes of people, many times.

I think the beast will be rising up from many nations and peoples.

sermonindex May 9, 2011

DEADn you wrote:

When I see posts such as this all I want to do is sprint away as fast as I can. I will end my words there.

i'm three clicks in front of you, can you see my dust?

F
fromtheold May 9, 2011

ecumenical movement, roman catholics and muslims. Research it

sermonindex May 9, 2011

"We 'must' remember His words there because there is no way on earth that the Jews or nominal christians will fall for a Arab-Muslim as the AntiChrist!"..JIG

I have never interpreted the end times to consider that the Jews would receive the anti-Christ at all, who-ever he may be.

I consider the battle of Megiddo to be the final thrust of the anti-Christ to annihilate all Jews...and the intervention of Jesus Himself, as He unveils Himself, and stops time, to be coincident with His second coming; with His sword devouring this massive army that has gathered in the North of Israel.

This would infer that the Jews resisted until the bitter end, the reign of anti-Christ...The "White Horseman of the apocalypse.

I think the Jews will hold out until the end. Also, it is interesting that that the passage speaking of Him "sitting in the temple" as God...certainly could be the Temple Mount and the Holy site, where the Muslim mosque resides.

Al-Aqsa Mosque......the dome.
"After completion of the Dome of the Rock, construction began at the site of the original timber mosque built in the time of 'Umar. A vast congregational mosque rose up, accommodating more than five thousand worshippers. Originally commissioned by 'Abdul Malik ibn Marwan, it was apparently completed by his son Al-Walid in 705AD."
noblesanctuary.com.

This is undoubtedly the Holy site, where the original Temple sat, and the blood sacrifices where set. It is the Temple site of Abraham and Isaac.

I thought it interesting that this anti-Christ MUST be killed, before he takes power on a grand scale, and that Bin-Laden is possibly one of the most well known killings ever, perhaps, and that he could fit the bill as the anti-Christ. He was the most famous Jihadist ever also, as Mohammed the "prophet" was.

I sincerely doubt it, though the reason I posted this, is that it is possible...... but if not, there is one coming, who will be raised from the dead derived from a fatal wound, and commandeer Islam, to conquer the world, as we know it.

The entire scenario is very supernatural, according to the Word.


sermonindex May 10, 2011

Hi Brother Tom. It's good to discuss these things - I agree.

This verse, to me, seems to indicate that he'll sit in "the temple of GOD" rather than the Dome of the Rock.

2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

This was the verse I was referring to that some scholars say was Jesus prophesying about the antiChrist - Joh 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

As far as the whole of Israel waiting faithfully for Christ - I've understood these verses to say that there will only be a Remnant and that group will head for the hills when they see the Abomination that causes desolation -
Zec 13:8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
Zec 13:9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.


The battle of Armeggedon is focused on fighting The Lamb and not Israel. That's a clincher, because many are saying that we're on the edge right now of seeing Armeggedon - but that gathering up of forces isn't until the 6th vial of His wrath and the gathering for war itself is when they know He's on His way.

Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
Rev 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
Rev 16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.


Reading Rev 13 - we see that the beast spoken of there has "7 heads" and "one of them is wounded to death".

A human being doesn't have 7 heads. I believe this is talking about Daniel's "Diverse beast" - a system such as the UN.

I believe - When the Lamb unseals the seven seals - and the first thing that happens is the 4 horses/men - that is the releasing of the seals that contained the scroll of Daniel's visions and it takes right up from where Daniel first saw the things "of the time of the end" - Daniel chpt 7.

He saw 4 beasts - each representing a kingdom, that are heavily involved with the affairs of the last days.

If we look at how Israel was proclaimed a Nation and how Jesus hinted that that was the generation who will see it all - we need only to look at which four kingdoms were involved with Israel being proclaimed a Nation.

Wikipedia and others show it plainly. England = the Lion.
Russia = the Bear. Germany = the leopard/panther. The UN = the Diverse Beast.

Then Jesus, The Lamb reopens Daniels scroll and looses these seals - the horses and they are those same four - represented in another aspect of what each will do in the days just prior to Israel's 1948 and Until The Ancient of Days / The LORD takes them out with His Saints - as seen in Daniel 7 and Revelation 19.

These are also seen in Daniel 8:8 as a Quartet, after the Medes and Persians are taken down - and out from this quartet comes the little horn.

So, that's why I cannot believe that the antiChrist is an Arab-Muslim.

I also agree with D.W. and others that [the U.S.] mainly New York Manhattan is "That Great City" - Babylon - where all the kings of the earth get their orders from and the merchants were made rich.
Where the Beast of Rev 13 with 7 heads and 10 horns [the same 10 kings of the 10 regions that the world is split up into] = the UN sits.
The whore Babylon rides the Beast, with it's ten kings until it's/their sick of her and doesn't need her anymore, because they've moved their headquarters to Jerusalem.

That's my nutshell version, I guess.
Blessings back to you Brother!

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