Josef83
May 31, 2011
no Mr Copeland it is our business.....wolf in sheeps clothing
This is very wrong. This makes me have a righteous anger. I can see Jesus coming through with a whip.
I work as an underwriter for a bank. Recently I was reviewing the checking account of somebody who was entering into foreclosure. While reviewing their account I noticed a check made out to Benny Hinn for $100. I felt very sad for this person. It wasn't keeping their home out of foreclosure.
Sad...nuf said.
If people would not buy their stuff, like books, CDs, DVDs or listen to their shows or donate money, they would have to work hard like other people.
I think it is a tragedy the gov has to ride herd on them and that Christians will not police their own. But, then, there is no cure for stupidity, is there?
To me I feel using media to spread the Gospel of Christ is wonderful but it is sad that so many ministries that are supported are "not" truly promoting the Gospel. We just need a few good men who will preach uncomprimising truth. Imagine a preacher who would actually preach the truth powerfully and have him aired on as many TV satellites as Joyce Meyer. It would shake america or at least the other TV preachers.
Mark Case who is being featured on the site is on one TV station and we are praying for opportunities for him to go on many others: http://www.proclaimit.tv/
hi, we shall all stand before the judgement seat of Christ...
I work as an underwriter for a bank. Recently I was reviewing the checking account of somebody who was entering into foreclosure. While reviewing their account I noticed a check made out to Benny Hinn for $100. I felt very sad for this person. It wasn't keeping their home out of foreclosure.
I spoke with a man once who said that he didn't understand why he lost his home to a foreclosure since he had been a faithful steward of what God had given to him.
In the course of the conversation, he told me that he had been encouraged to "plant a substantial seed faith gift" to a particular mega-church minister. I asked him the amount, and he told me that it was $100,000. I told him, "Well, I can tell you where your mortgage payments went! They went to that minister!"
I will never forget that. How could individuals be so easily duped? At the same time, the prosperity message is just one example of how some people will embrace a sectarian doctrinal view if some minister infuses a few verses to "validate" their claims.
Sadly, in this case, the false teaching of prosperity mingles the essence of personal, selfish greed (the lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes and the pride of life), the act of coveting the things of this world and a few misapplied verses about success into a single damnable message.
The prosperity message literally encourages greed and lust for the temporary things of this life and espouses those lusts as a "virtue." It is an affront to the New Testament message that "godliness with contentment is great gain."
A great message about the dangers of the prosperity message is found in David Wilkerson message HOLY GROUND. It is available here on SermonIndex.
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=336
well, not THAT old:
"the revolution will not be televised".
Schma!
please allow me to amend that:
Revival will not be televised.
God will suffer no idol.
Four or five thoughts crossed my mind, and blew thru my soul:
One, these men and women OBVIOUSLY do NOT fear God.
Two, bless God that i am not a congressman, because as the LORD is my witness, i would assemble a squad of rottweiler IRS officials to do an investigation that has fangs, resultly in both loss of their 501c3 status, and criminal prosecution.
Three, We, as a nation, shall pay dearly for this, someday, this beautiful land will be salted with fire, whether the electrical grid going down and the ensuing chaos, mayhem, and lawlessness, or nuclear attack from China.....God is love, but woe to those who have been given much and do so little.
Four, i never envy, nor sully a man or woman who is blessed with great wealth, may they prosper, and hopefully live an Isaiah 58 lifestyle. But those who handle the Word, are tasked for servanthood, not Herodhood.
and finally Five, i wish David and his 30 mighty men were around to get Old Testament on these fleshlings..i say fleshlings, coz they're too soft and pampered to be wolves.
Oh, a Day is coming, the Day of the LORD.
Luke 6:38 Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.
This is the verse that Kenneth Copland uses to justify his greed. I use to listen to him years ago and he is a really good teacher. the problem is he has "the buck stops here" mentality. It seems that he keeps more than he gives.
I quite listening to him after he had a special with Oral Roberts when he has an urgent message to the church. this was the foundation message and that is all they talk about "giving" to there ministry.
Copeland use to be Oral's personal pilot.
When the woman was trying to interview him I was impressed when Copeland allowed her to ask her question. However, when she touched on the subject of the planes he became defensive and said "that's none of your business young lady"
It wasn't what he said as the venomous way he inflected it, then walk away.
Be truthful in all things. Let your yes be yes and your no be no.
hi, we shall all stand before the judgement seat of Christ...
Jimp, that is so true. I will one day stand before the Bema seat of Christ and will answer for the things I have done as will every one of us including Mr. Copeland, Mr. Hinn, and etc.
I recall a story I heard from a minister about one of his friends. This minister's friend was a believer who owned a large estate, horses, boats, ATV's, nice cars, and a very large house. He really lived a very high lifestyle. Other Christians began to critisize this man and complain to the minister. They demanded to know how this man could justify his lifestyle when that money could have been used for ministry. The minister did not defend his friend, but simply listened. He said later that what the complaining Christians did not know was that this man gave 90% of all of his income to the work of the gospel and lived on 10%.
I am not defending nor am I decrying Mr. Copeland or Mr. Hinn. They will not answer to me but to God. I am simply saying that we often judge based on what we see with our own eyes and often that information paints a very different picture than what is really happening.
I know personally of men who teach doctrinal error. I know personally of men who truly are wolves in sheeps clothing. I would and have advised other believers not to follow such men. But for men to whose personal lives I am not privy I reserve judgement and simply advise others to compare carefully what they see and hear to the Word of God and pray diligently about whether God would have them sow into these ministries.
I know that we so easily form very strong opinions of other people in the body of Christ, but I urge us all to bury our opinions and pray for one another, including the man you think is wrong. God will judge. I am to use discernment. God can give me that discernment supernaturally or sometimes there is clear natural discernment that I can exercise.
I guess what I am trying to say is that we do need to exercise great caution when it comes to judging and decrying our brother or sister. Speak only that which you know beyond doubt to be true.
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