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Urban Myths (Lies) You've Probably Heard From The Pulpit

sermonindex Jun 6, 2011

(This is from Trevin Wax's blog, but I've also read similar lists at other places. I have researched these for myself and found that what is posted here is true... or should I say "false")

1. The “eye of the needle” refers to a gate outside Jerusalem.

“It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God,” says Jesus in Mark 10:25. Maybe you’ve heard of the gate in Jerusalem called the “eye of the needle.” The camel could pass through it only after stooping down and having all its baggage taken off.

The illustration is used in many sermons as an example of coming to God on our knees and without our baggage. The only problem is … there is no evidence for such a gate. The story has been around since the 15th century, but there isn’t a shred of evidence to support it.

2. The high priest tied a rope around his ankle so that others could drag him out of the Holy of Holies in case God struck him dead.

Various versions of this claim have been repeated by pastors, but it is a legend. It started in the Middle Ages and keeps getting repeated. There is no evidence for the claim in the Bible, the Apocrypha, the Dead Sea Scrolls, Josephus, the Pseudepigrapha, the Talmud, Mishna or any other source. Furthermore, the thickness of the veil (three feet) would have precluded the possibility of a priest being dragged out anyway.

3. Scribes took baths, discarded their pens, washed their hands, etc. every time they wrote the name of God.

As a way of getting across the reverence of the Jewish and Christian scribes toward God, preachers like to describe the honor given to God’s name. Unfortunately, there’s no evidence that scribes did these sorts of rituals every time they came across the name of God.

4. There was this saying among the sages: “May you be covered in your rabbi’s dust.”

This is one of the most pervasive and fast-spreading stories to flood the church in recent years. The idea is that as you walked behind your rabbi, he would kick up dust and you would become caked in it, and so following your rabbi closely came to symbolize your commitment and zeal.

5. Voltaire’s house is now owned by a Bible-printing publisher.

Voltaire was famous for saying, “One hundred years from my day there will not be a Bible in the earth except one that is looked upon by an antiquarian curiosity seeker.” There is a myth out there that within 50 years of Voltaire’s death, his house was owned by a Bible society that used his own printing press to make Bibles. Sounds like a great story, but it’s not true. Regardless, Voltaire’s prediction of the demise of the Bible was vastly overstated.

6. Gehenna was a burning trash dump outside Jerusalem.

I’ve used this illustration many times. But there isn’t evidence to support this idea. Still, because it seems like a reasonable explanation for the origin of the Hinnom Valley as “hell,” commentators and preachers have accepted it. It’s possible that the verdict may still be out on this one, but not if Todd Bolen is right:


“The explanation for the ‘fire of Gehenna’ lies not in a burning trash dump, but in the burning of sacrificed children. Already in Old Testament times, the Valley of Hinnom was associated with the destiny of the wicked. That the valley was just outside the city of Jerusalem made it an appropriate symbol for those excluded from divine blessing.”

7. NASA scientists have discovered a “missing day” which corresponds to the Joshua account of the sun standing still.

Please don’t repeat this myth. There has been no “missing day” discovered, and the legend has been circulating longer than NASA has been in existence, with different scientists playing the part.

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enid Jun 6, 2011

I think I've heard of most of those, especially the one concerning the camel going through the eye of the needle.

When Jesus said that, to compare with the rich getting into heaven, He meant it.

But people twisting scripture, or misunderstanding it, is nothing new.

There's nothing new under the sun...

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DEADn Jun 6, 2011

HOw many more things would be considered urban myths preached from the pulpit? Stuff like this can be enough to disillusion some people to wondering if there is anything true in Christianity.

sermonindex Jun 6, 2011

In the modern "evangelical" fad church... quite a bit. Thats what happens when the man in the pulpit buys his sermons online, preaches to the goats and does silly and stupid things in order to supposedly "attract" the world into the church. Whats ironic is the world looks at such things and sees them for what they are... silly and stupid.

Krispy

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ccchhhrrriiisss Jun 6, 2011

I have heard some of these, Krispy. I wanted to add the oft-repeated myth that someone "drilled" into Hell.

http://www.snopes.com/religion/wellhell.asp

When I first heard this, I was amazed that anyone would actually have believed such a thing. Yet I have heard four different people (three who are ministers) repeat it.

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Theophila Jun 6, 2011

Wow, brother!
I had never heard of #3 and #4.....you live and learn.

Thanks for posting this.

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Areadymind Jun 6, 2011

As Christians we should be the most willing to discover and prove that which is good. These are a great lesson on why it is important to Bereanize everything. Not just what the scriptures say, but certainly that above all. I read this blog a month or two ago and was glad to see those myths go. I hope more and more preachers get directed to that link.

sermonindex Jun 6, 2011

I must confess I fell for the Voltaire one. And even the NASA. Ok we want talk of my experiences with Area 51. But before I make a further fool of myself. Not that I haven't in this forum I need my betters to correct me on these possible urban myths. Is it true that Madeine Murray O'hare's son was converted to Christ and is a gospel minister? Is it true that Normal MaCorlvey is Roe in Roe vs Wade? Is it true she is converted? Is it true that the recent earthquake in Japan shifted the earth 10 degrees on its axis? Is it true that God has converted muslem terrorist in Saul of Tarsus like experiences? Your answers to these possible urban myths may spare me from possible embarrassment at a dinner fellowship. Though I will continue to embarrass myself in this forum.

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lylewise Jun 6, 2011

I'll take #2 for $500.00 Can we reference the thickness of the veil? Three feet?

sermonindex Jun 6, 2011

I had heard it was 5 feet thick. Or was that cubits?

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lylewise Jun 6, 2011

From what I researched regarding tradition as well as thread make up and custom it appears to be around 4" thick. I purchased some movie theater drapes that were a little less than 1/2 inch thick and they were almost too heavy for one man to carry just one of the four drapes. If you consider four inch thickness with the weight of what is being described, now that would be a feat. Christ tearing it, No problem, but the Jews trying to hang something of that weight? Incredible!

sermonindex Jun 7, 2011

That's incredible. And after.seeing that tear the Jews still woukd not believe in Jesus as their messiah.

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JB1968 Jun 7, 2011

I question some of this research. The valley of Hinnom was a place of child sacrifice and awful pagan worship. It appears that by the time of Christ this area had become a never ending burning trash heap which made it an easy illustration of the fires of hell.

sermonindex Jun 7, 2011

I must confess I fell for the Voltaire one. And even the NASA. Ok we want talk of my experiences with Area 51. But before I make a further fool of myself. Not that I haven't in this forum I need my betters to correct me on these possible urban myths. Is it true that Madeine Murray O'hare's son was converted to Christ and is a gospel minister? Is it true that Normal MaCorlvey is Roe in Roe vs Wade? Is it true she is converted? Is it true that the recent earthquake in Japan shifted the earth 10 degrees on its axis? Is it true that God has converted muslem terrorist in Saul of Tarsus like experiences? Your answers to these possible urban myths may spare me from possible embarrassment at a dinner fellowship. Though I will continue to embarrass myself in this forum.

Yes, it is true that Norma MacOrlvey (or however you spell her last name) was Roe in Roe vs. Wade... and yes, she claims to be a born again Christian and is now working for a Pro-Life organization. I've actually seen her interviewed before... I think on FoxNews.

As to the other things you mentioned, I've heard them all before but do not have the time right now to investigate them for you.

Krispy

sermonindex Jun 7, 2011

I question some of this research. The valley of Hinnom was a place of child sacrifice and awful pagan worship. It appears that by the time of Christ this area had become a never ending burning trash heap which made it an easy illustration of the fires of hell.

To the best of my ability I researched these things before I posted them (mainly because I hate being wrong in front of everyone... lol). However, if you can show that I am in error please do so. We should all be about the truth, even if it means we have to be corrected.

Krispy

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LoisTverberg Feb 3, 2012

I recently wrote a historical analysis of the saying about "being covered in the dust of your rabbi."

http://ourrabbijesus.com/2012/01/27/covered-in-the-dust-of-your-rabbi-an-urban-legend/

It's not an urban legend. The idea actually originates from a well-known scholar of first-century Judaism.

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JB1968 Feb 3, 2012

International Standard Biblical Encyclopedia: Gehenna and Valley of Hinnom entry. Rather than copy and paste it here, check out these classic reference tools.

Easton's Bible Dictionary: Gehenna entry.

There are many other references that can be found on E-Sword.net or Biblestudytools.com for free.

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DEADn Feb 4, 2012

It stands to reason if these are all urban myths than how many more myths are we hearing from the pulpit thinking it is truth? Do you ever wonder?

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hoohoou Feb 5, 2012

I think the problem is that preachers, for whatever reason, have moved away from just preaching the Gospel. In an attempt to persuade as many as possible they have grasped at straws in order to make the faith more real.

I think preaching the basic Gospel and how that applies to our life could take multiple lifetimes to complete. I'm not sure you'd ever finish. Take Paul Washer for example. I watched an interview where he was amazed so many people wanted to hear him speak. He said he only had about 2-3 sermons that he would tackle from different perspectives.

Do we need any more than that?

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Lysa Feb 5, 2012

hoohoou
I think the problem is that preachers, for whatever reason, have moved away from just preaching the Gospel. In an attempt to persuade as many as possible they have grasped at straws in order to make the faith more real.

This is the gospel according to Lisa and you are free to disagree!! I would call it “emotionalism” and it seems that a huge bunch of the preachers in the church began using it when the Holy Spirit left the building; since the Holy Spirit wasn’t there to convict people, they had to come up with “ways” to get people to the altar. I guess a better question would be why did the Holy Spirit leave their church (if He actually did, of course)?

I watched an interview where he was amazed so many people wanted to hear him speak. He said he only had about 2-3 sermons that he would tackle from different perspectives.

That is really sad that he admitted that; and with that, I rest my case.

God bless,
Lisa

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