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Luke 17 and the Rapture

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ChristianIssues Jun 15, 2011

Why is it that Luke 17:24-36 is never mentioned when the Rapture is discussed? I find that these verses clearly show when the Rapture will occur so I've made the following article to show how I see things. Can anyone show how this passage can be viewed differently?

The following chart and text examine the verses in Luke 17:24-36 which are entirely about the day Jesus returns like lightning. I start with Matt. 24 to show the timing of the verses in Luke 17:24-36.
Point 3 on the chart is Matt. 24:21, the Great Tribulation, and then after the tribulation …
Point 5 (Matt. 24:27, 30) says that Jesus will appear like lightning - Luke 17:24 is the parallel verse.
Now let's follow the verses in Luke 17 which describe Jesus' return AFTER the Great Tribulation.
Points 6 and 7 (Luke 17:26-29) describe the sudden destruction of sinners in the days of Noah and Lot then …
Point 8 (Luke 17:30) says that it (the destruction) will be just the same when Jesus returns. Also …
Point 9 (Luke 17:31-33) says that “ON THAT DAY” no one should look to earthly things but to remember Lot's
wife because …
Points 10 and 11 (Luke 17:34-35) say that “one will be taken and the other left” and this is the Rapture.
So, AFTER the Great Tribulation, Jesus will return like lightning to rapture believers and to destroy sinners.
The chart is at http://www.christianissues.biz/pdf-bin/endtimes/luke17.jpg
[image][img]http://www.christianissues.biz/pdf-bin/endtimes/luke17.jpg[/img]

This chart shows the flow of events as:
1) The Antichrist ………………………………… at Point 1.
2) The Great Tribulation ………………………… at Point 3.
3) Jesus appears like lightening …………………. at Point 5.
4) The Rapture and the Day Of The Lord ……….. at Points 8 to 11.

Rescuing the righteous and then destroying the sinners was the pattern in the days of Noah and Lot and Jesus said, in Luke 17:30, that it would be the same when He returns.

C
Cooksta Jun 17, 2011

Hi There,

The problem I see when I look at that chart (and maybe I am just being dense so forgive me) is that the sinners are destroyed at point 8. So presumably only Christians are left?

Then the rapture occurs after that? It seems you are saying that Christians are raptured from Christians.

Interestingly you go along with the post-trib rapture.

Bless you,

Nick

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sonsigns Jun 17, 2011

Why is it that Luke 17:24-36 is never mentioned when the Rapture is discussed? I find that these verses clearly show when the Rapture will occur so I've made the following article to show how I see things. Can anyone show how this passage can be viewed differently?

You betcha, ready here we go...

17:24 For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.

Referring to the second coming- In other words Jesus, is saying that when he comes back with all of his saints, there will be such a display of Heavenly Glory that no one will have to ask the question "is it really Christ Jesus?"

17:25 But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation.

Jesus is referring here to the things he will soon suffer and be rejected by men mainly the Jew's before the he is to take up his Cross. This verse I also believe, the Glories of that coming day will have a relation to and will be the result of his Atoning sufferings at Calvary.

17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

Means at the time of the second coming of Christ, the world will be just as in-different and corrupt as in the day of Noah and Lot.

17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

17:28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

These two verses just means that the world at the second coming of Christ will be just that, business as usual. The world isn't looking for the King of Kings and Lord of Lords to come. They have rejected him and his warnings from the Church.

Just as they did back in Noah's time, until the water did fall on them, then did they beat on the doors begging to come in.

17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

this verse pertains to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Even though Abraham interceded on their behalf, The Lord brought wrath upon them. I also believe that the latter day saints will be interceding on behalf of man.

17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

This is the second coming of Christ.

17:31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.

This verse is also referring to the second coming of Christ and not the rapture. In Jesus's day in the middle east, many would sleep on the roof tops and many still do today.

17:32 Remember Lot’s wife.

This verse is important. Jesus, is referring to the way Lots wife died by her disobedience. Gen.19:26

This verse also is a warning to Israel, that if they hesitate at that time, they will suffer the same destruction as Lot's wife. Those whom hesitates. Not all of Israel.

17:33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.

The first part of this verse I believe is talking about Israel and those whom flee from the battle thinking that running will save their lives will have the opposite effect.

Now the second part of that verse is those whom go forward in the battle (battle of Armageddon)will have the protection of the Lord. Zech. 12:8

17:34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

17:35 Two women shall be grinding together 9at the mill); the one shall be taken, and the other left.

17:36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

The last three verses is once again referring to the mobilization of Israel at the battle of Armageddon and not the rapture as many believe.

17:37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

This verse is also refering to the battle of Armageddon and not the rapture. Ezek. 39:17


Rescuing the righteous and then destroying the sinners was the pattern in the days of Noah and Lot and Jesus said, in Luke 17:30, that it would be the same when He returns.

Luke 17:30 is referring to the second coming of Christ. Not the catching away of the Church. The true Church will already be in Heaven before the second coming.

However, you are right in one respect. God removes the righteous before his wrath is poured out.


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