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Godly Men Have Radiant Wives

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ginnyrose Jul 19, 2011

On July 6 Greg posted a thread "A Message on this Website Sister's Shouldn't Miss".

After listening to it and being inspired by it, I recalled my days as a young wife and mother. I likely heard at least several sermons like this to every ONE that was directed to husbands. In the end it created a lot of frustration because it seemed as though the minister was heaping on the wives the total responsibility for the peace in the home. If her huband failed it was all her fault; if he succeeded it was hers. So, the success of a man's life was totally dependent on the wife's submission to him.

Now, if this is the case, who is going to care for the wife? Where is her support going to come from? Who is going to care for her as she was supposed to care for him? Very little was said...but when it did happen it made all the difference in a wife's attitude to her husband.

Anyhow, after listening to this sermon that Greg posted, I went on here to see if there was not a counterpart to the one addressed to the sisters and there is. I just got done listening to it and I tell you, it is powerful. To the wives who have husbands not walking with the LORD, this sermon will be like a dagger in her heart. Nevertheless, there are husbands that need encouragement just like the wives. So, I would encourage all to give this sermon a listen.

Here it is: Pt. 24 - Godly Men Have Radiant Wives
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=253&min=60&orderby=titleA&show=20

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mama27 Jul 19, 2011

I will have to listen to this, Ginnyrose, to see if I have heard it before, but I have heard even THIS turned against the wives - as in, if you are NOT radiant, it is a SHAME to your husband. I have also heard it said that if a man is godly, his wife will WANT to submit to him...obviously both sides are called to walk godly in Christ Jesus. I think if there is unequal yoked-ness though it is very,very difficult (not impossible) for a wife to be radiant. This of course goes both ways as well. Thank you for the recommendation.

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mikey2 Jul 19, 2011

My wife is very radiant. :-)

sermonindex Jul 19, 2011

And if you are single? I guess the single folks aren't that radiant.

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savannah Jul 20, 2011


Proverbs 27:15,16 A persistent leaking on a blustery day and a quarrelsome wife--it is equal;He who stifles her can stifle the wind and can dictate to oil in his right hand.

The half has not been told.

I know a man who has been married to the same woman over 40 years. She has borne him 10 children. If you talk to him you'll be cured of any thoughts of marrying a woman you think may have a quarrelsome spirit as opposed to a submissive spirit.

He speaks often of his funeral. He said he'd like his epitaph to read, "free at last".

I've grown to consider him to be a beloved friend.

If you have a radiant submissive wife...I say to you,get down on your knees and thank God for an hour each day!

Happy wife happy life
Miserable wife miserable life

Having said that above,I do realize one may rise above and have victory. But there are very few that have.

It is as the wise man says (he repeats it), "It is better to dwell in the corner of the housetop than to share a house with a quarrelsome wife". (Prov. 25:24 and 21:9)

"It is better to dwell in a corner of the housetop,.... The roofs of houses in Judea were that, encompassed with battlements, whither persons might retire for solitude, and sit in safety: and it is better to be in a corner of such a roof alone, and be exposed to scorching heat, to blustering winds, to thunder storms and showers of rain,than with a brawling woman in a wide house; large and spacious, full of rooms, fit for a numerous family: or, "an house of society" (u); where many families might dwell and live sociably with each other; or a house where a man, his wife and family, might dwell together, and have communion with each other; it is opposed to the corner of the housetop, and the solitariness of it; as the scolding of the brawling woman, or "a woman of contentions" (w), who is always noisy and quarrelsome, her violent passions, her storming language, and thundering voice, are to the inclemencies of the heavens, to which a man on the housetop is exposed; and yet these are more eligible than the other."

"It is better to dwell in the wilderness,.... Where persons live without shelter, and are not only exposed to storms and tempests, but to beasts of prey; where is want of the necessaries of life, and no society; where no "speech" is, as the word for wilderness may signify; yet it is better to dwell in such a place, where no human voice is heard,than with a contentious and an angry woman; that is always brawling and scolding, ever in a quarrelsome and angry disposition, and provoking to anger all about her." - Gill

R.I.P.

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ginnyrose Jul 20, 2011

Some people say marriage is a 50/50 relationship - two halves will make a whole. The reality is that it is a 100% - 100% relationship. Each different, each doing his part together will make for a happy home. Unfortunately, when one person fails it makes it rough for the other spouse. Sad. What is worst is that the divorce rate among the churched is the same as the unchurched.

An evangelist to prisons has said that unless the marriages get fixed in the church America will not see a revival.

Savannah, I understand what the proverb writer is talking about. A person with a critical, complaining spirit is hard to live with, be it husband or wife.

The bottom line is the devil is working to destroy what God meant to be so wonderful, a reflection of the relationship that exists among the Godhead. Now that is powerful!

Still, I would hope people will listen to Denny's sermon addressed to husbands - it is powerful.

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mikey2 Jul 20, 2011

If you have a radiant submissive wife...I say to you,get down on your knees and thank God for an hour each day!

I am very thankful, but thanks for the reminder.

Mike

sermonindex Jul 20, 2011

I like what Paul Washer said when he brought up the oft quoted statement that the divorce rate is the same among the church as it is the world... he said to the effect of "Not the real church!"

The reason the divorce rate is so high among those who CALL themselves Christians is because the majority of "church goers" are goats.

Does divorce happen among true believers? Sadly yes. But I believe it's extremely rare.

Divorce among the goats in the church is rampant, and why wouldnt it be? They are just like their father the devil.

But the true Church of Jesus? No. Not among the little band of believers in America called "the remnant".

An evangelist to prisons has said that unless the marriages get fixed in the church America will not see a revival.

I disagree. Until the goats in the church (i.e. tha vast majority of church goers) either get saved or get out... America will not see revival.

Krispy

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savannah Jul 20, 2011


Because of his positional priority over the woman, Paul states that man is the image and glory of God in a sense that is not shared by the woman (1 Cor. 11:7). Man (the male gender) stands directly under God with no visible, earthly head. He is God’s vice-regent having authority over all other created beings on earth, including the woman. Man is God’s glory because he shows forth God’s authority over all creation. Man is therefore the crown of creation and shines forth the image and glory of God in a way no other creature does, even in a way the woman does not. What distinguishes the man from the woman (beyond the physical differences)? It is his headship over the woman. In other words, man’s authority and headship makes him the image and the glory of God in a way that surpasses all other creatures, including the woman.

Woman is made from man and for man — to be his helper (Gen. 2:18, 21-23). The woman was created from the first man; she traces her origin to him, and according to the Creator’s plan and power, she derives her existence and being from man. Man does not trace his origin or being from the woman. The stated purpose for the woman’s creation is that she should be man’s companion and helper. The text of Genesis does not say that man was created for the purpose of being the woman’s companion and helper (assistant). The creation order of the positional priority of the man is here made explicit. This is why Paul states that “the woman is the glory of the man” (1 Cor. 11:7). Paul does not say that she is the image of man; she is in the image of God. But she is the glory of man in the same way that man is the glory of God: She shows the position of man in God’s order by her submission to him. Woman (the female gender) does not stand directly under God with no visible, earthly head. She is under man’s authority and is man’s helper, not God’s vice-regent. Woman is man’s glory because she shows forth man’s position of authority over all creation, which includes his authority over her.

Mankind’s fall into sin took place in a context where the role relationship established in Genesis 1 and 2 is reversed. It is significant that the Serpent chooses to approach the woman rather than the man with his temptation to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Most likely he thought that he stood a better chance of success by seducing man’s assistant; through her he hoped to bring man down. He fully succeeded. In the Genesis account, Eve fails in that she acts independently of Adam and does not submit herself to his leadership. And Adam fails in that he heeds the voice of his wife and submits to her decision rather than obeying the Word of God.

The curse of sin disrupts the creation order’s original harmonious relationship between the woman and the man. Genesis 3:16 reveals God’s word of judgment on Eve and on all her female descendants. It is important to note that the two aspects of her judgment are directly related to her special role as a woman. The first has to do with childbirth, and the second has to do with her relationship to her husband. Because of sin, the whole process of conception and childbirth will be “in sorrow.” This means she will now experience pain and trouble in her reproductive system, and her pregnancies and deliveries will be hard, toilsome, and painful.

Furthermore, sin will cause her relationship with her husband to be corrupted by strife and antagonism. The text says “and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.” Note carefully, that this is a pronouncement of judgment and cursing, and it involves a disruption of the harmonious relationship that God had originally intended for Eve and her husband.

To understand the exact nature of this disruption, we must consider the meaning of “desire” and “rule”. Because of sin, the woman will now have a “desire” to her husband that she did not have previously. The Hebrew word for “desire” (teshuqa) means a longing, an urge, or a desire. The word only occurs two other times in the Hebrew Old Testament (Gen. 4:7; Song of Sol. 7:1). An understanding of its usage in Genesis 4:7 is critical for understanding its usage in Genesis 3:16.In Genesis 4, it refers to sin’s desire for Cain, i.e., sin’s desire to dominate Cain and lead him into sin. In a similar way, the woman’s “desire” for her husband is a desire to dominate him and cause him to do her will. Therefore, because of sin, the woman will no longer be content with her position of subordination to the man but will instead rise up against her husband’s authority...Therefore, the curse of sin disrupts the creation order of male headship and female submission by introducing conflict between the woman and the man. Instead of being content with her God-ordained position of submission to her husband, her desire will be to control him and dominate him.

The curse is not that a woman must now submit to a man (the word submit is nowhere used in the text), but that in the autonomy of human sin (Gen. 3:5), she will rebel against the creation order by not submitting to her husband. And so, properly understood, Genesis 3:16 provides additional support for the original creation order of male headship and female submission.

Yes, the feminization of the family has taken place in America and in the West! The Christian concept of the family has been replaced by the feminist idea of the family: easy divorce has replaced a covenantal view of marriage; egalitarianism has replaced male headship; man and woman as joint providers has replaced man as provider; the wife and mother working outside of the home has replaced the woman as a keeper at home; the mother as an employee has replaced the mother as the nurturer of her children; “family planning” and “birth control” has replaced the large family.

Two factors have greatly contributed to the success of feminists in overthrowing the family structure and practice that is based on the Bible. The first factor is the cowardice of men; yes, even Christian men. To a degree it is understandable (though still shameful) that non-Christian men have cowered before the feminists, and their attacks on them and the traditional family. But that Christian men who have the truth of the Word of God should have likewise capitulated is a sorry fact indeed. God has called men to defend His truth in the world and to live out its precepts. Yet, a look at the average evangelical Christian home will reveal that it too has been feminized to a large degree. Radical, Christ-hating feminist have transformed our homes, and Christian men have hardly objected to this or contested for the holy ground of a biblically patterned family. Furthermore, Christian husbands and fathers have also shown cowardice in their failure to lead and take up the responsibilities that God has given to them. They have been more than willing to shuck the full burden of leading and providing for their families; they have been more than to happy to share (or unload) these burdens with (or on) their wife. The family has been feminized because Christian men retreated from their duty.

The second factor is the silence and passivity of the church. The feminization of the family has taken place in large measure because the church has mostly been silent on the matter. The church has not met the assault of feminism head on with the sword of the Word of God. Rather, and shamefully, the church has retreated at the feminist onslaught, and has actually bought into many of the alien ideas of feminism. The church has been guilty of teaching such things as egalitarian marriage, “family planning,” and of supporting the idea of a career woman and working mother. Much of the blame must be laid at the feet of preachers and elders who are either deceived or too afraid to preach or stand for the truth concerning the family as God had revealed it in His Holy Word. The feminists have been successful in altering the family because the church has failed to live and teach the positive scriptural doctrine of the family and has not exposed, denounced, and answered the lies of the feminists.

What should our response be as Christians to the feminization of the family? Our response begins with the recognition that it has happened. Denial will not do us any good. Then, we must take up the task of the de-feminization of the family and the re-Christianization of the family. This task is the work of every individual Christian family; but it is primarily the work of Christian husbands and fathers who have been appointed by God as leaders in the home. Men must lead by precept and example in eradicating all aspects of feminist influence from the life and structure of their family and restore it to a biblical pattern. Men must prove themselves men and shoulder the full load of responsibility given to them by God. Men must stop being intimidated by feminist rhetoric and radicals and fearlessly promote God’s order for the family.

by Bill E. - Husband,Elder,and Father of 10 homeschooled children.

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ginnyrose Jul 20, 2011

And if you are single? I guess the single folks aren't that radiant.

Oh, but they can be! Radiance is not dependent upon being married. I know of singles who are a delight. I also know singles who resent their marital status and are a grouch. It is all up to the individual to accept the place God put them.

This sermon is directed to marrieds and for some reason whenever one like this is preached, the singles feel left out...I am sure there must be one directed to singles, helping them to accept this state in life and be productive in it. The reason so much has been written about the marriage relationship is because of the problems inherent to it - even the best of marriages have issues to deal with.

A poster posted a link to Zac Poonen's website. I went there and read part of his life story. In it he describes his life as a single and wanting to marry...his testimony is powerful - one I would highly recommend to all singles who are frustrated in not being able to find a suitable person to marry.

God bless.

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enid Jul 20, 2011

Just because someone is unmarried, doesn't mean they are single.

sermonindex Jul 20, 2011

You are whole and complete in Jesus, single or married.

Julius

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Jeremy221 Jul 20, 2011

I've really been blessed by the Godly Home series though I am unmarried. Though I see the practical application of these beautiful truths, I realize that marriage is a shadow of the real heavenly reality of unity with Christ. This means that the jewels found in this message relate to me. I have groped at many shadows only to have their substance revealed. The time when my attention to the shadow finally releases me to see the real, then there is life and hope. As Paul write,

While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal. (2 Corinthians 4:18 KJV)

Amen.

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ccchhhrrriiisss Jul 20, 2011

Not too long ago, my wife and I were walking around THE DISH behind Stanford University.

It is a nice, five mile trail with great views of Palo Alto, the San Francisco Bay, the Santa Cruz Mountains and surrounding Silicon Valley communities. It is within walking distance of our home, so we make our way over there ever-so-often.

On a clear day, you can see downtown San Francisco, San Jose and even Oakland. It is called THE DISH because of the large dish radio telescope (amongst other telescopes) that is perched upon this highland area in the rural location alongside I-280. Best of all, it is a great place to walk and pray.

At the top stretch of the paved trail, my wife became very tired and needed some water. There is a water fountain located in a grove of trees about a quarter-mile back from where we were. So, I jogged over to get some water and then jogged back to where she was.

When I came back, I saw her sitting on a stump appreciatively waiting for me. There was a breathtaking sunset as the sun began setting over the Santa Cruz Mountains (making its way into the Pacific Ocean on the other side). The almost-daily fog was rolling in over the mountains and it was a wonderful sight to behold.

I immediately noticed how radiant my bride looked!

I walked over to her and said, "So magnificently beautiful!" She glanced toward the sky and agreed. Then I said, "The sunset is pretty too."

I agree, Sister GinnyRose! I will listen to this message with my bride soon. Thanks for posting it!

sermonindex Jul 21, 2011

Every time I see the title of this thread my spirit is troubled. One would suppose based on this title that godliness is proportunate to the radiance of ones mate. Might I suggest that godliness stems from ones walk with Christ. In John 15 Jesus teaches that fruit is born through abiding in the vine. In Gal.5 Paul list the characteristics of godliness as being the fruit of the Spirit. I would suggest that godliness is prportunate to the amount of time one spends in the word, prayer, and fellowship with godly people.

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ccchhhrrriiisss Jul 21, 2011

Hi martyr,

I don't know if you had time to read the initial post from Sister Ginnyrose or if you listened to the message from Brother Denny Kenaston mentioned in the first post, but I think that you may have misunderstood her intentions.

She wasn't saying that a woman's physical radiance was proportionate to her husband's godliness. Rather, the message that our sister mentioned is directed at men and is an admonition for a husband to live a holy and godly life.

In my last post, I suppose that I should have clarified what I meant in regard to seeing my wife as radiant. It wasn't really her outward beauty, the reflection of the ambient light during the sunset or any sort of physical glimmer that made me notice the radiance of my bride.

Rather, as I walked up, I saw my wife as a radiant bride waiting for me. She has been such a faithful help meet! My wife is a very strong woman who encourages/challenges me in the ways of the Lord as much as she supports me as the priest of our home. She is highly intelligent and capable, yet she submits to me in such a way that causes me to want to live up to the responsibility and fulfill my role through that submission.

This love and devotion that I feel from my bride causes me to see a beautiful and glorious radiance shining from her. That is why I see her as "magnificently beautiful."

I hope that clarifies it a bit so that it makes more sense in regard to the initial message and sermon posted by GinnyRose.

sermonindex Jul 21, 2011

Thanks for the clarification. Blaine

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ginnyrose Jul 21, 2011

I immediately noticed how radiant my bride looked!

So Mrs. Chris must have a godly husband? :-) What a testimony to the man!

Martyr is right about the woman's need to walk with the LORD. Unless this is an ongoing relationship, there is no way a wife can be a godly wife. The husband is limited in what he can do to produce holiness in his wife. Same for the wife to the husband.

The reality is that we serve God by serving others and if you are married your primary duty of service is to your spouse! God is pleased with this kind of service. It is a powerful witness to ungodly society when this kind of service functions as God intended.

God bless.

sermonindex Jul 22, 2011

Is it true that a marriage is truly blessed when both spouses look to the cross of Christ?

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sarahsdream Jul 22, 2011

Not look, but love,,,

The Cross

If two love the cross, how could the marriage not be blessed!

In Christ,
Sarah

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