Aussiedler
`Their lifes testify that both groups have no changed life (fruit of the spirit), very little spiritual gifts and no power.`
Oh yes, I absolutely agree with this observation. It is my observation too, that those who claim to have received what is called entire sanctification or power or fullness of the Spirit, do not show it in their lives along with those who deny that anything mnore needs to be done. They are both wrong. Hallelulia!
Pentecostals are the only group who are talking about this experience nowadays, and I agree with you that it does not show any fruit, but in the past, it was non Pentecostals who actually opposed the Pentecostal take on it, who really did show the fruit. They are such like as Wesley, Finney, Fox and others who actually were the cause of great revivals because of what they taught.
NOBODY TODAY IS PREACHING THE SAME THING AS THEY TAUGHT.
`NOWHERE IN THE BIBLE IT SAYS THAT ONE OR TWO EXPERIENCES IN THE PAST ARE SUFFICIENT TO ALWAYS LIVE A HOLY LIFE. YOU HAVE TO BE FILLED NOW - IF NOT ALL YOUR PAST EXPERIENCES ARE WORTHLESS.`
Oh yes, again I absolutely agree with you. There is no living on past experience. It must be a present reality, a present submission and an ongoing appropriating of the gift which has been given. Like an electric appliance, it must be plugged in to the power supply and if it is unplugged it will cease to work.
And I absolutely agree with you that there are many `blessings` or rather, restorations when one has wandered or backsliden from God or even when one hasn`t and just experiences the grace of God.
We are so much in agreement I could weep.
Calling entire sanctification a blessing, in this sense is misleading. It is not the same thing at all, and you have shown me that it should not be called merely a blessing. THANKYOU for showing me this. I do miss Germans now I no longer live there with their desire for correctness in all things. It is a great quality to have and I have much respect for it (and the efficiency which I also miss greatly).
Entire Sanctification is not merely a blessing. It is an entering into a new level of faith and can be lost if one does not continue to play ones part in the transaction and walk in faith like before. It is a place where one gets really plugged in to the power source (and no tongues) but it is about having a pure heart, and feeling that pureness and nothing coming out of the heart that is against the will of God. It is living the way Jesus lived in that every thought is captive to this will which you can see is not the same thing as what happened before when one was up and down, praising God one minute then the next in doubt or worrying about the future.
It is a level of Christianity when the promises of God are fulfilled in a spectacular way and one can hear Him speak and guide continuously. I don`t mean just though scripture, but inside there is that communion that came now and again as before, at times of blessing, but ebbed away.
Most of all, it is a level of Christianity that one always longed for but did not think one could have it until after death. All of the literature of what seems to be excessive language of intense devotion are from those who have reached this state and it is not just an occasional thing for them THEY LIVE LIKE THAT ALL OF THE TIME.
It is like having that encounter but it stays there.
This is forcast in the OT when it says that we are to be pillars in Gods temple. This is the sense of it. Never more to roam.
God bless you. May I suggest you read more about these people who claimed it in the past and you will find the fruit.
Brenda