Fear Of God Has Been Lost In The Church (Compilation)

I must agree strongly that there is no fear of the Lord, at least not a healthy fear, but I am more inclined to lean toward what Brother Washer stated, How can we truly fear God unless we have a proper knowledge of HIM?

Without Knowing God through Christ, what He has done for us through the Cross, the resurrection, and through the holy Spirit's work, then we have nothing.

We literally dont have the God of scriptures, just the thought of our idealogy and what we have conjured up to appear Godly. IT all falls down when we come to nothing and we have to realize that we have much of nothing until we meet Him in some crisis or experience where He tears down our idealogies and habits.

All Praise be To God

thanks greg,,,,,convicting, yet incouraging

Having watched the compilation, I still remain what I always am...wondering what you mean by the fear of YHVH.

I am completely aware of His awesome power, and the jealosy with which He regards us...wanting our bridal eye to never wander from Him, and the overwhelming knowledge of His justice, but I hear the preachers preaching fear, and wonder what emotion we are supposed to walk in when we are wholly saved from YHVH's rage by the death and resurrection of Yeshua.

How can I walk in the peace that Yeshua offers, if I am afraid of YHVH?

YHVH Saboath knows me through and through. There is nothing that I do not think and feel that He does not know, and I know that in our conversations I am too familiar with Him, irreverent, even contentious, but I respect Him without measure, and He must know that.

He also does not thunder in my ear, nor am I to be in His unbearable presence until I am resurrected to another place and time, at which time I will be overwhelmed by the unutterable power He holds over me, and all things. I too will fall to my face...how could I not?

But Adonai has made me, and led me, and has given me into the hands of His Son, Yeshua, to be healed and made whole by Him, and to be raised up in Yeshua's righteousness...not my own. I have none of myself, anymore than I have the power to make myself over into what YHVH wants of me...my only task is to submit to His direction through the Holy Spirit, and to allow YHVH to do what He wants of me, and be what He wants me to be in His power and direction.

I love YHVH, and Yeshua, and the Ruach haKodesh, but I do not fear them for me. I am in terror over what others will face, who choose not to be washed and redeemed by Christ, but I do not fear in the sense that everyone seems to be getting at.

And yet I understand fear, and terror, and have felt them about the future days to come, and been reassured by YHVH that I am not to fear, but to rest in Him. Does not every meeting in the Scriptures with angels, or with the great I Am in any form begin with the words, 'do not be afraid'?

And it isn't that I love YHVH or Yeshua as I should...I know I don't, but all the years of my studying have told me that I must learn to trust, and lean on Adonai.

How can I trust Him if I am to fear Him at the same time? Admire, and delight in the sheer grandeur of His power? Do I not shrink from the extent of the building rage in Him at the continous sin and evil in the world? Of course. Yes, He can kill me if He likes, and even consign me to Hell, for I certainly deserve it, but we are supposed to be trusting in YHVH's mercy through the death and resurrection of Yeshua, for our ultimate end, and for every day we walk in this life, through the New Covenant that was cut in Yeshua's blood.

Please, please tell me what I am to fear, what I have missed, what I do not understand, lest I not know, and err all the more.

But if I, a Believer, am to fear YHVH, and not love and trust Him the more every day to keep the promises He made to all of us through Yeshua, what am I supposed to do?

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hi, i no longer fear my father but love him.He is love and love has power and fear has torment.do you fear your earthly father or do you love him? He has over 50 years proven to me that He loves me and i have labored to enter into His restfear isthe beginning of wisdom but love is wisdom itself.jimp it is the goodness of God that leads to repentance.

Thank you, jimp.

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Obviously, many that are teaching us do believe that fear of YHVH is to be commended.

Why is this so if we are to trust Him?

Q

The fear of the Lord and the comfort of the Holy Ghost go hand in hand. They are not mutually exclusive.

Act 9:31 Then had the churches rest throughout all Judaea and Galilee and Samaria, and were edified; and walking in the FEAR OF THE LORD, and in the COMFORT OF THE HOLY GHOST, were multiplied.

Where one is, you will find the other. They are always together.

Sarah

Please do a key word search on "fear" and "God" as well as "fear" and "Lord" (on a site such as biblegateway.com) and you will see that it runs like a red thread through the Bible from Genesis to Revelations. Too many references to post them here. And so it is the Word of God itself which teaches that the fear of God is to be commended, not just men.

I believe the struggle you have with this teaching has to do with the idea that the "fear of the Lord" always equals "being scared of the Lord." This is not so. There are two meanings to this original word:
http://www.searchgodsword.org/lex/heb/view.cgi?number=03372

I also highly recommend Al Whittinghill's sermon from the Simulcast conference. It has surprised me that no one mentioned it here, I thought it was very good. You can find a download on this page:
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=1306

Hope you will find this helpful.

Edited to add this article which you might like:
http://judaism.about.com/od/beliefsandlaw1/f/feargod.htm

Read Job 38-42... Fear is not a bad thing. It's not bondage. It's a healthy fear.

My grandfather told me the "fear of the Lord" just means you "respect him."

I gave him the example of the Israelites hearing God speak from the mountain and how TERRIFIED they were.

He didn't budge...

The fear of an all powerful God and Judge is different from the fear of all powerful Father and One who diciplines His own children, with a good spanking and a great hug afterwards, with explanation of the dicipline and chasening.

Thank you Father: In Christ: Phillip

According to "Strong's" this Fear of the LORD is defined as thus:
φόβος
phobos
fob'-os
From a primary φέβομαι phebomai (to be put in fear); alarm or fright: - be afraid, + exceedingly, fear, terror.

The way this works in my own life is that fear motivates me to walk close with the LORD lest I fall into error or sin. There are times when the love of God is a warm fuzzy feeling but then emotions are not stable, a poor guide for reality. It is a healthy respect coupled with fear knowing full well what can happen when one persists in disobedience.

I remember well when Christians reinterpreted 'fear of the LORD' as meaning love because you cannot love something you fear,or so they said. (Hey! this sounds so much nicer...) This opened the door to the greatest apostasy in recent history. God was no longer a deity, but a warm fuzzy Santa Claus in the sky who loves you so very much and will give you whatever you want if you learn how to manipulate him. You do this by praising the LORD for whatever happens, just say "Praise the LORD!" Oh, and he would not send me to hell - I think I am a good person (yes, unrepentant fornicators have told me so)!

Does this make sense?

Yes, Ginny Rose, it does.

After I wrote my first and second responses, I went to YHVH, since it was late, and few of wisdom at hand to respond to me.

Adonai led me to a website that showed me not only the need for more respect towards YHVH and Yeshua, but actually gave me a reminder that too lax a walk, and Yeshua, who redeems us if we trust in Him, will indeed turn his back on those who cry after Him, but have never given sufficient obedience, in respect for His wishes.

I see that we must indeed fear in a way that is unlike the thundered hell-and-damnation that is meant to touch the heart of the unredeemed and the backslidden. And we must also be careful to fear hurting Yeshua by reckless disobedience to what He wants from his Bride.

Yeshua also showed me on prayer and study today how much we must recall that He bought us free from the curse of death by His suffering, and gives us life through His resurrection. He also showed me how cold and final would be that 'I never knew you' if we presumed too much on His leniency.

Trusting in the Promise should never be lackadaisical, but carefully, and soberly done, leaning for forgiveness on that Trustfulness readily, but taking care not to presume too greatly.

And yes, to be careful to obey the promptings of the Holy Spirit, walking very closely indeed.

Thank you for helping me to find the explanations I needed.

Q

Thanks also to Sarah, Sola, and Gator and others my mind refuses to remember for the links and encouragement.

Q

Mahoney, it was not a lack of belief in Adonai, or trust being lacking in me, but not always paying attention to the prompting of the Holy Spirit in the least little things. I recall feeling as if I had gotten sloppy, not being in disbelief.

I had had a long time of fear of my thoughts as sin already committed, and when YHVH released from that over-doing of fear of being in sin, I rested in such peace, and felt such relief of what I am to do.

I had had the feeling before of the temptation being the sin already committed, not sin being what I actually was doing, and that the doing of the law written in my heart was the earnest doing of love toward Yeshua.

Fortunately, Adonai allowed me the feeling of finally being safe in my trust in Him. The Holy spirit, on the other hand, was watching carefully, and prompting me to pray for the revealing of my sinfulness to me, that I might correct my behavior.

I still do not fear, exactly, but I indeed have a hearty respect for YHVH, Yeshua, and the Ruach haKodesh, and indeed a better knowledge of how I am to relate to Christ.

I need to seek to obey as He asks as a love token, and consider all dutiful tasks I am set to being done only to gain a single smile from Him I need to know so much better.

I have never known how to relate to Yeshua as I should, and I am glad that after seeking to know Him more personally, He has granted me the proper instruction.

I still see only a dim glimmer of what I am to do, and be in relationship with Yeshua, but that is due to lack of prior knowledge as much as my own wilfulness.

Thank you for your stern questions, and I am pleased to be able to assure you that I do indeed believe all that I should, and that where I have acted improperly, ignorence has been a good deal of the problem.

Q

Phillip, thank for your kind words, always so softly and sweetly spoken encouragement.

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